Anonymous
12/08/2014 00:31
Subject: Re:Found Nanny and baby asleep on the couch
I think it's unprofessional to sleep on the job. I work twelve hours a day, then commute home to take care of my family. I sleep at night. Of course, I get a break now and then during the day, but I certainly don't sleep. I expect the person I employ to take care of my child to be alert at all times.
Of course, there are families who feel differently. OP, if you want to allow her to sleep on the job, that's fine, but you might want to consider that you now know she's not a light sleeper because you had to wake her up. She was also engaged in a dangerous practice while sleeping, not following your expectations on when and where to sleep.
(The firefighter example is not a good one. Very loud alarms wake them up whenever they are needed, 24/7. Also, firefighting is an extremely demanding job, physically. Nannying is not.)
She didn't ask if it was unprofessional, troll. We know how lowly you think of nannies, it's obvious. Stop posting on every thread about how easy and unprofessional nannies are....
Firefighters work 24 hour shifts and are off for 36 hours. Is it always highly physical? Depends. Some shifts you could never leave, others you are out all 24 hours fighting fires.
Is nannying physical? Not always, but it certainly can be very physical based on ages of chargers/number of charges. So quit making sweeping statements in order to put down the career.
And be honest. You don't have a family, you have nothing.
You're confused, sweetheart. I don't post on every thread. I hardly ever post here. I also don't think most nannies are unprofessional; only the ones that sleep on the job. I do think that nannying is a far easier job than most jobs and I'm surprised you don't think so as well. That doesn't mean it isn't a valuable job. But it isn't firefighting.
You should try not to take things so personally. You also should quit making sweeping statements about anonymous posters on an anonymous forum. You look foolish. You look especially foolish by reducing yourself to petty insults implying I don't have a family. What a truly ugly person you are.
But, thanks for making my point about sleeping on the job. Your firefighter example is false. If firefighters serve for 24 hours, then of course they would sleep when they can. They would also wake up the minute the alarms sounded. A nanny who can't stay awake for 12 hours is a different example entirely. You cannot compare the two.
Anonymous
12/07/2014 23:36
Subject: Found Nanny and baby asleep on the couch
Anonymous wrote:I think it's unprofessional to sleep on the job. I work twelve hours a day, then commute home to take care of my family. I sleep at night. Of course, I get a break now and then during the day, but I certainly don't sleep. I expect the person I employ to take care of my child to be alert at all times.
Of course, there are families who feel differently. OP, if you want to allow her to sleep on the job, that's fine, but you might want to consider that you now know she's not a light sleeper because you had to wake her up. She was also engaged in a dangerous practice while sleeping, not following your expectations on when and where to sleep.
(The firefighter example is not a good one. Very loud alarms wake them up whenever they are needed, 24/7. Also, firefighting is an extremely demanding job, physically. Nannying is not.)
She didn't ask if it was unprofessional, troll. We know how lowly you think of nannies, it's obvious. Stop posting on every thread about how easy and unprofessional nannies are....
Firefighters work 24 hour shifts and are off for 36 hours. Is it always highly physical? Depends. Some shifts you could never leave, others you are out all 24 hours fighting fires.
Is nannying physical? Not always, but it certainly can be very physical based on ages of chargers/number of charges. So quit making sweeping statements in order to put down the career.
And be honest. You don't have a family, you have nothing.
Anonymous
12/07/2014 12:37
Subject: Found Nanny and baby asleep on the couch
I think it's unprofessional to sleep on the job. I work twelve hours a day, then commute home to take care of my family. I sleep at night. Of course, I get a break now and then during the day, but I certainly don't sleep. I expect the person I employ to take care of my child to be alert at all times.
Of course, there are families who feel differently. OP, if you want to allow her to sleep on the job, that's fine, but you might want to consider that you now know she's not a light sleeper because you had to wake her up. She was also engaged in a dangerous practice while sleeping, not following your expectations on when and where to sleep.
(The firefighter example is not a good one. Very loud alarms wake them up whenever they are needed, 24/7. Also, firefighting is an extremely demanding job, physically. Nannying is not.)
Of course, there are families who feel differently. OP, if you want to allow her to sleep on the job, that's fine, but you might want to consider that you now know she's not a light sleeper because you had to wake her up. She was also engaged in a dangerous practice while sleeping, not following your expectations on when and where to sleep.
(The firefighter example is not a good one. Very loud alarms wake them up whenever they are needed, 24/7. Also, firefighting is an extremely demanding job, physically. Nannying is not.)
Anonymous
12/07/2014 06:49
Subject: Found Nanny and baby asleep on the couch
If your nanny is working a 12-Hour shift, then by all means when your toddler naps, she is well-entitled to some shut eye as well OP like you stated.
I think your issue was that she didn't go into the guest room like you asked her to, right?
Perhaps she meant to, but she just fell asleep too soon on the sofa.
If it only happened one time, I would just let her know that you really want her to make sure she gets your child into bed next time and that she sleeps in the guest room, etc. A warning is sufficient. If she does it again after you warn her, then I would consider letting her go.
I see nothing wrong w/sleeping on the job if you are working a 12-Hour shift. Firefighters do it.
I think your issue was that she didn't go into the guest room like you asked her to, right?
Perhaps she meant to, but she just fell asleep too soon on the sofa.
If it only happened one time, I would just let her know that you really want her to make sure she gets your child into bed next time and that she sleeps in the guest room, etc. A warning is sufficient. If she does it again after you warn her, then I would consider letting her go.
I see nothing wrong w/sleeping on the job if you are working a 12-Hour shift. Firefighters do it.
Anonymous
12/06/2014 21:53
Subject: Re:Found Nanny and baby asleep on the couch
OP you are insane. I watch twins who are now 22 months and back in November, we went through a week and a half of "hell" where one of the twins was fighting a cold and would NOT sleep unless I held him. I'd take him in the guest room and lay down with him in the bed and he'd eventually fall asleep cuddled up next to me and there were 2 days where I drifted off too, after dealing with crying/screaming all day. My MB knew I fell asleep with him as DB came home one day and checked in on us (guest room is next to his office) and he told MB how "cute it was" and she was perfectly fine with it. You sound like a nut OP.
Anonymous
12/06/2014 20:15
Subject: Found Nanny and baby asleep on the couch
Anonymous wrote:it is unsafe for anyone to sleep with a sleeping infant on them, even for "light sleepers." What are you playing? A game of chicken hoping you wake up first before the baby jerks or moves?
no need to sleep on the job either.
Note - the baby isn't an "infant". He's 15 months old - a toddler. Not a risk but still unprofessional behavior for a nanny to sleep on the job, IMO.
Anonymous
12/06/2014 20:11
Subject: Found Nanny and baby asleep on the couch
it is unsafe for anyone to sleep with a sleeping infant on them, even for "light sleepers." What are you playing? A game of chicken hoping you wake up first before the baby jerks or moves?
no need to sleep on the job either.
no need to sleep on the job either.
Anonymous
12/06/2014 18:22
Subject: Found Nanny and baby asleep on the couch
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How old is this infant? A newborn?
Fired.
An older infant...we'd talk.
Almost 15 months.
However there is a risk of SIDS till two-years.
Hold on - the baby is 15 months?! There is NO risk of SIDS unless the nanny was obese and sleeping on top of him. I have totally changed my tune, OP, you are wrong and need to get over it.
I apologize to the nanny and anyone else who I took sides against on this thread. 15 months - hell, the child could slap the nanny if she was smothering him!!!
I would never sleep when I was working regardless of the ages of the kids, but at 15 months he wouldn't even get hurt if she dropped him off her lap.
Anonymous
12/06/2014 18:11
Subject: Found Nanny and baby asleep on the couch
Anonymous wrote:How old is this infant? A newborn?
Fired.
An older infant...we'd talk.
Almost 15 months.
However there is a risk of SIDS till two-years.
Anonymous
12/06/2014 18:08
Subject: Found Nanny and baby asleep on the couch
How old is this infant? A newborn?
Fired.
An older infant...we'd talk.
Fired.
An older infant...we'd talk.
Anonymous
12/06/2014 18:07
Subject: Found Nanny and baby asleep on the couch
Anonymous wrote:Wow. I'm amazed anyone think it is professional to sleep on the job. It isn't and if you continue with this nanny, OP, you should give her a warning that this is unacceptable and unsafe behavior.
She works a twelve hour shift sometimes. She came in with a headache, and I said she could nap in the guest bedroom.
I don't think it's unprofessional if the child is asleep, most other jobs you get a break. She does not.
Anonymous
12/06/2014 16:08
Subject: Found Nanny and baby asleep on the couch
Um, I bedshare. But I'm a nonsmoking, breastfeeding mother and I do it in a safe bed. A non-mother sleeping on a couch? Hell no. She'd be gone.
Anonymous
12/06/2014 15:39
Subject: Re:Found Nanny and baby asleep on the couch
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a nanny and I had to hold my newborn charge for all naps due to severe reflux. I did not put that baby down for four straight months. I was tired but NEVER fell asleep while holding him. When I would start to feel sleepy I would stand up and walk him around. It was not easy but it was absolutely doable.
I would fire that nanny as well.
If your charge is asleep there no reason you can't sleep. If DC wakes up I'm sure you would wake up too.
Yes, there are actually two reasons why you cannot sleep when your infant charge is sleeping in your arms - 1) Because it is unsafe as taught by the American Red Cross and deemed a "dangerous" practice by the American Pediatric Association, and
2) BECAUSE YOU ARE WORKING.
Some of you nannies are really dreadful!!!
Anonymous
12/06/2014 15:23
Subject: Found Nanny and baby asleep on the couch
I try to ask myself if I'm holding the nanny to a standard higher than I hold myself. Have I fallen asleep with the baby while sitting in the rocking chair? Has my husband?
Not that you shouldn't say anything, but just keep it in perspective. You're right that it's not the safest or best practice, but it's also just a human thing to do. Ask her not to do it again and go over the sleep options you find acceptable one more time.
Not that you shouldn't say anything, but just keep it in perspective. You're right that it's not the safest or best practice, but it's also just a human thing to do. Ask her not to do it again and go over the sleep options you find acceptable one more time.
Anonymous
12/06/2014 15:07
Subject: Re:Found Nanny and baby asleep on the couch
Anonymous wrote:I am a nanny and I had to hold my newborn charge for all naps due to severe reflux. I did not put that baby down for four straight months. I was tired but NEVER fell asleep while holding him. When I would start to feel sleepy I would stand up and walk him around. It was not easy but it was absolutely doable.
I would fire that nanny as well.
If your charge is asleep there no reason you can't sleep. If DC wakes up I'm sure you would wake up too.