Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
After 7 years of employing nannies, here's what we do:

We give nanny the same federal holidays we get. It's not all of them. We also give day after Thanksgiving because we never work that day, though I prefer not to put it in the contract and instead give it as a "bonus day" closer to the holiday.

For vacation, we hive two weeks - one our choice, one hers. I do not allow ANY paid vacation during the first 60 days, though. Vacation can accrue but not be taken during that time. Our nanny accrues vacation, but the contract says she can take the time before it is accrued, provided that if she ends employment with a negative vacation balance it will be deducted from her final check.

Even "nice" nannies will sometimes try to play you for the vacation weeks - decide they're moving, returning to school, whatever, but take vacation before giving notice. If you go with accrue method, you can mostly avoid this.


Just curious, we are hiring in the next month or so, would you still require the time to accrue so close to the holidays?


Yes. You could choose to allow "going negative" on vacation balance with a contract provision like ours that requires repayment of any time taken in excess of accrual, or you could just do straight accrual and only pay for what's been accrued. But yes, I'm pretty hard nosed about it now because I really don't want to fund vacations for more than one nanny within a year, and you never know what will happen.



You are heartless. I can't imagine any MB refusing me vacation time during the holidays. PPs nanny won't have accrued more then a day and a half by Christmas. Please do not follow this advice. This is the advice of someone who is bitter and resentful from a past hurt. Sorry you had a bad nanny but you need to let go of the anger instead of taking it out on someone who has not earned it.


Work on that reading comprehension. PP didn't refuse vacation time over the holidays. She said an employer can choose to go negative and allow vacation but with the caveat that she owes the money back if she leaves the position before she accrues out her negative balance.

This is common in the real world. I started a new job recently and will only accrue two days by the holidays, per company's accrual policy. Yes, that sucks that this year, I don't get time off, but that's life. That's what happens when you start a new job



Yes, but the same way a good nanny will wash your dirty clothes and dishes, show up early every day to avoid being late, and stay late all to help you out - you should be flexible to help them out. I go above and beyond as a nanny in ways that just are not comparable to other jobs. I am happy to do those things because I enjoy the same consideration from my MB. Happy nannies do not pull the kind of b.s. You are talking about and they will make it worth your while to be a little more compassionate.


Enough of this nonsense. Nannying is a job, just like other jobs. Plenty of us have jobs that ask us to go above and beyond and we do it because that is the job. It is absolutely comparable to other jobs. There is nothing special about being a nanny. It's easy work to get into and you can make good money easily with little experience or qualifications. You should be grateful for that and for how easy you have it.

I'm tired of reading the argument that NFs owe you special compassion and help for doing your job. It's flat out manipulative and unprofessional.


Being a mom is easy. I am tired of hearing about how parents need nanny's to stay late or clean their house. There is nothing special about being a mom, you are just like every other women who has gotten pregnant. You don't deserve any special treatment. Suck it up and stop asking for extra favors. Anyone can become a parent with no skills or qualifications - plenty of us have kids and don't expect other people to pick up after us. Fair enough?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
After 7 years of employing nannies, here's what we do:

We give nanny the same federal holidays we get. It's not all of them. We also give day after Thanksgiving because we never work that day, though I prefer not to put it in the contract and instead give it as a "bonus day" closer to the holiday.

For vacation, we hive two weeks - one our choice, one hers. I do not allow ANY paid vacation during the first 60 days, though. Vacation can accrue but not be taken during that time. Our nanny accrues vacation, but the contract says she can take the time before it is accrued, provided that if she ends employment with a negative vacation balance it will be deducted from her final check.

Even "nice" nannies will sometimes try to play you for the vacation weeks - decide they're moving, returning to school, whatever, but take vacation before giving notice. If you go with accrue method, you can mostly avoid this.


Just curious, we are hiring in the next month or so, would you still require the time to accrue so close to the holidays?


Yes. You could choose to allow "going negative" on vacation balance with a contract provision like ours that requires repayment of any time taken in excess of accrual, or you could just do straight accrual and only pay for what's been accrued. But yes, I'm pretty hard nosed about it now because I really don't want to fund vacations for more than one nanny within a year, and you never know what will happen.



You are heartless. I can't imagine any MB refusing me vacation time during the holidays. PPs nanny won't have accrued more then a day and a half by Christmas. Please do not follow this advice. This is the advice of someone who is bitter and resentful from a past hurt. Sorry you had a bad nanny but you need to let go of the anger instead of taking it out on someone who has not earned it.


Work on that reading comprehension. PP didn't refuse vacation time over the holidays. She said an employer can choose to go negative and allow vacation but with the caveat that she owes the money back if she leaves the position before she accrues out her negative balance.

This is common in the real world. I started a new job recently and will only accrue two days by the holidays, per company's accrual policy. Yes, that sucks that this year, I don't get time off, but that's life. That's what happens when you start a new job



Yes, but the same way a good nanny will wash your dirty clothes and dishes, show up early every day to avoid being late, and stay late all to help you out - you should be flexible to help them out. I go above and beyond as a nanny in ways that just are not comparable to other jobs. I am happy to do those things because I enjoy the same consideration from my MB. Happy nannies do not pull the kind of b.s. You are talking about and they will make it worth your while to be a little more compassionate.

Enough of this nonsense. Nannying is a job, just like other jobs. Plenty of us have jobs that ask us to go above and beyond and we do it because that is the job. It is absolutely comparable to other jobs. There is nothing special about being a nanny. It's easy work to get into and you can make good money easily with little experience or qualifications. You should be grateful for that and for how easy you have it.

I'm tired of reading the argument that NFs owe you special compassion and help for doing your job. It's flat out manipulative and unprofessional.

Being a mom is easy. I am tired of hearing about how parents need nanny's to stay late or clean their house. There is nothing special about being a mom, you are just like every other women who has gotten pregnant. You don't deserve any special treatment. Suck it up and stop asking for extra favors. Anyone can become a parent with no skills or qualifications - plenty of us have kids and don't expect other people to pick up after us. Fair enough?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
After 7 years of employing nannies, here's what we do:

We give nanny the same federal holidays we get. It's not all of them. We also give day after Thanksgiving because we never work that day, though I prefer not to put it in the contract and instead give it as a "bonus day" closer to the holiday.

For vacation, we hive two weeks - one our choice, one hers. I do not allow ANY paid vacation during the first 60 days, though. Vacation can accrue but not be taken during that time. Our nanny accrues vacation, but the contract says she can take the time before it is accrued, provided that if she ends employment with a negative vacation balance it will be deducted from her final check.

Even "nice" nannies will sometimes try to play you for the vacation weeks - decide they're moving, returning to school, whatever, but take vacation before giving notice. If you go with accrue method, you can mostly avoid this.


Just curious, we are hiring in the next month or so, would you still require the time to accrue so close to the holidays?


Yes. You could choose to allow "going negative" on vacation balance with a contract provision like ours that requires repayment of any time taken in excess of accrual, or you could just do straight accrual and only pay for what's been accrued. But yes, I'm pretty hard nosed about it now because I really don't want to fund vacations for more than one nanny within a year, and you never know what will happen.



You are heartless. I can't imagine any MB refusing me vacation time during the holidays. PPs nanny won't have accrued more then a day and a half by Christmas. Please do not follow this advice. This is the advice of someone who is bitter and resentful from a past hurt. Sorry you had a bad nanny but you need to let go of the anger instead of taking it out on someone who has not earned it.


Work on that reading comprehension. PP didn't refuse vacation time over the holidays. She said an employer can choose to go negative and allow vacation but with the caveat that she owes the money back if she leaves the position before she accrues out her negative balance.

This is common in the real world. I started a new job recently and will only accrue two days by the holidays, per company's accrual policy. Yes, that sucks that this year, I don't get time off, but that's life. That's what happens when you start a new job



Yes, but the same way a good nanny will wash your dirty clothes and dishes, show up early every day to avoid being late, and stay late all to help you out - you should be flexible to help them out. I go above and beyond as a nanny in ways that just are not comparable to other jobs. I am happy to do those things because I enjoy the same consideration from my MB. Happy nannies do not pull the kind of b.s. You are talking about and they will make it worth your while to be a little more compassionate.

Enough of this nonsense. Nannying is a job, just like other jobs. Plenty of us have jobs that ask us to go above and beyond and we do it because that is the job. It is absolutely comparable to other jobs. There is nothing special about being a nanny. It's easy work to get into and you can make good money easily with little experience or qualifications. You should be grateful for that and for how easy you have it.

I'm tired of reading the argument that NFs owe you special compassion and help for doing your job. It's flat out manipulative and unprofessional.

Being a mom is easy. I am tired of hearing about how parents need nanny's to stay late or clean their house. There is nothing special about being a mom, you are just like every other women who has gotten pregnant. You don't deserve any special treatment. Suck it up and stop asking for extra favors. Anyone can become a parent with no skills or qualifications - plenty of us have kids and don't expect other people to pick up after us. Fair enough?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
After 7 years of employing nannies, here's what we do:

We give nanny the same federal holidays we get. It's not all of them. We also give day after Thanksgiving because we never work that day, though I prefer not to put it in the contract and instead give it as a "bonus day" closer to the holiday.

For vacation, we hive two weeks - one our choice, one hers. I do not allow ANY paid vacation during the first 60 days, though. Vacation can accrue but not be taken during that time. Our nanny accrues vacation, but the contract says she can take the time before it is accrued, provided that if she ends employment with a negative vacation balance it will be deducted from her final check.

Even "nice" nannies will sometimes try to play you for the vacation weeks - decide they're moving, returning to school, whatever, but take vacation before giving notice. If you go with accrue method, you can mostly avoid this.


Just curious, we are hiring in the next month or so, would you still require the time to accrue so close to the holidays?


Yes. You could choose to allow "going negative" on vacation balance with a contract provision like ours that requires repayment of any time taken in excess of accrual, or you could just do straight accrual and only pay for what's been accrued. But yes, I'm pretty hard nosed about it now because I really don't want to fund vacations for more than one nanny within a year, and you never know what will happen.



You are heartless. I can't imagine any MB refusing me vacation time during the holidays. PPs nanny won't have accrued more then a day and a half by Christmas. Please do not follow this advice. This is the advice of someone who is bitter and resentful from a past hurt. Sorry you had a bad nanny but you need to let go of the anger instead of taking it out on someone who has not earned it.


Work on that reading comprehension. PP didn't refuse vacation time over the holidays. She said an employer can choose to go negative and allow vacation but with the caveat that she owes the money back if she leaves the position before she accrues out her negative balance.

This is common in the real world. I started a new job recently and will only accrue two days by the holidays, per company's accrual policy. Yes, that sucks that this year, I don't get time off, but that's life. That's what happens when you start a new job



Yes, but the same way a good nanny will wash your dirty clothes and dishes, show up early every day to avoid being late, and stay late all to help you out - you should be flexible to help them out. I go above and beyond as a nanny in ways that just are not comparable to other jobs. I am happy to do those things because I enjoy the same consideration from my MB. Happy nannies do not pull the kind of b.s. You are talking about and they will make it worth your while to be a little more compassionate.

Enough of this nonsense. Nannying is a job, just like other jobs. Plenty of us have jobs that ask us to go above and beyond and we do it because that is the job. It is absolutely comparable to other jobs. There is nothing special about being a nanny. It's easy work to get into and you can make good money easily with little experience or qualifications. You should be grateful for that and for how easy you have it.

I'm tired of reading the argument that NFs owe you special compassion and help for doing your job. It's flat out manipulative and unprofessional.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
After 7 years of employing nannies, here's what we do:

We give nanny the same federal holidays we get. It's not all of them. We also give day after Thanksgiving because we never work that day, though I prefer not to put it in the contract and instead give it as a "bonus day" closer to the holiday.

For vacation, we hive two weeks - one our choice, one hers. I do not allow ANY paid vacation during the first 60 days, though. Vacation can accrue but not be taken during that time. Our nanny accrues vacation, but the contract says she can take the time before it is accrued, provided that if she ends employment with a negative vacation balance it will be deducted from her final check.

Even "nice" nannies will sometimes try to play you for the vacation weeks - decide they're moving, returning to school, whatever, but take vacation before giving notice. If you go with accrue method, you can mostly avoid this.


Just curious, we are hiring in the next month or so, would you still require the time to accrue so close to the holidays?


Yes. You could choose to allow "going negative" on vacation balance with a contract provision like ours that requires repayment of any time taken in excess of accrual, or you could just do straight accrual and only pay for what's been accrued. But yes, I'm pretty hard nosed about it now because I really don't want to fund vacations for more than one nanny within a year, and you never know what will happen.



You are heartless. I can't imagine any MB refusing me vacation time during the holidays. PPs nanny won't have accrued more then a day and a half by Christmas. Please do not follow this advice. This is the advice of someone who is bitter and resentful from a past hurt. Sorry you had a bad nanny but you need to let go of the anger instead of taking it out on someone who has not earned it.


Work on that reading comprehension. PP didn't refuse vacation time over the holidays. She said an employer can choose to go negative and allow vacation but with the caveat that she owes the money back if she leaves the position before she accrues out her negative balance.

This is common in the real world. I started a new job recently and will only accrue two days by the holidays, per company's accrual policy. Yes, that sucks that this year, I don't get time off, but that's life. That's what happens when you start a new job



Yes, but the same way a good nanny will wash your dirty clothes and dishes, show up early every day to avoid being late, and stay late all to help you out - you should be flexible to help them out. I go above and beyond as a nanny in ways that just are not comparable to other jobs. I am happy to do those things because I enjoy the same consideration from my MB. Happy nannies do not pull the kind of b.s. You are talking about and they will make it worth your while to be a little more compassionate.

Anonymous wrote:This is the heartless PP. We had a lovely, happy nanny, with whom we're still in touch and recently visited, at her new home - four hours away from here.

She took her vacation - a full year's worth - by the time she had been with us for six months. We loved her, she was wonderful, she sobbed quite a bit when announcing her move, we had a good group cry over losing such an awesome person in our day to day lives, we still adore her. But we still got screwed on the vacation piece, because we had to replace her and pay vacation for that nanny as well.

So now my new policy is accrual, okay to "go negative" and ake paid vacation before accrued, but required to pay back if she quits before the balance is accrued. This is the same policy that applies to me in my own job.

You call it heartless, I call it practical. Oh well.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
After 7 years of employing nannies, here's what we do:

We give nanny the same federal holidays we get. It's not all of them. We also give day after Thanksgiving because we never work that day, though I prefer not to put it in the contract and instead give it as a "bonus day" closer to the holiday.

For vacation, we hive two weeks - one our choice, one hers. I do not allow ANY paid vacation during the first 60 days, though. Vacation can accrue but not be taken during that time. Our nanny accrues vacation, but the contract says she can take the time before it is accrued, provided that if she ends employment with a negative vacation balance it will be deducted from her final check.

Even "nice" nannies will sometimes try to play you for the vacation weeks - decide they're moving, returning to school, whatever, but take vacation before giving notice. If you go with accrue method, you can mostly avoid this.


Just curious, we are hiring in the next month or so, would you still require the time to accrue so close to the holidays?


Yes. You could choose to allow "going negative" on vacation balance with a contract provision like ours that requires repayment of any time taken in excess of accrual, or you could just do straight accrual and only pay for what's been accrued. But yes, I'm pretty hard nosed about it now because I really don't want to fund vacations for more than one nanny within a year, and you never know what will happen.



You are heartless. I can't imagine any MB refusing me vacation time during the holidays. PPs nanny won't have accrued more then a day and a half by Christmas. Please do not follow this advice. This is the advice of someone who is bitter and resentful from a past hurt. Sorry you had a bad nanny but you need to let go of the anger instead of taking it out on someone who has not earned it.

Work on that reading comprehension. PP didn't refuse vacation time over the holidays. She said an employer can choose to go negative and allow vacation but with the caveat that she owes the money back if she leaves the position before she accrues out her negative balance.

This is common in the real world. I started a new job recently and will only accrue two days by the holidays, per company's accrual policy. Yes, that sucks that this year, I don't get time off, but that's life. That's what happens when you start a new job

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
After 7 years of employing nannies, here's what we do:

We give nanny the same federal holidays we get. It's not all of them. We also give day after Thanksgiving because we never work that day, though I prefer not to put it in the contract and instead give it as a "bonus day" closer to the holiday.

For vacation, we hive two weeks - one our choice, one hers. I do not allow ANY paid vacation during the first 60 days, though. Vacation can accrue but not be taken during that time. Our nanny accrues vacation, but the contract says she can take the time before it is accrued, provided that if she ends employment with a negative vacation balance it will be deducted from her final check.

Even "nice" nannies will sometimes try to play you for the vacation weeks - decide they're moving, returning to school, whatever, but take vacation before giving notice. If you go with accrue method, you can mostly avoid this.


Just curious, we are hiring in the next month or so, would you still require the time to accrue so close to the holidays?


Yes. You could choose to allow "going negative" on vacation balance with a contract provision like ours that requires repayment of any time taken in excess of accrual, or you could just do straight accrual and only pay for what's been accrued. But yes, I'm pretty hard nosed about it now because I really don't want to fund vacations for more than one nanny within a year, and you never know what will happen.



You are heartless. I can't imagine any MB refusing me vacation time during the holidays. PPs nanny won't have accrued more then a day and a half by Christmas. Please do not follow this advice. This is the advice of someone who is bitter and resentful from a past hurt. Sorry you had a bad nanny but you need to let go of the anger instead of taking it out on someone who has not earned it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:After 7 years of employing nannies, here's what we do:

We give nanny the same federal holidays we get. It's not all of them. We also give day after Thanksgiving because we never work that day, though I prefer not to put it in the contract and instead give it as a "bonus day" closer to the holiday.

For vacation, we hive two weeks - one our choice, one hers. I do not allow ANY paid vacation during the first 60 days, though. Vacation can accrue but not be taken during that time. Our nanny accrues vacation, but the contract says she can take the time before it is accrued, provided that if she ends employment with a negative vacation balance it will be deducted from her final check.

Even "nice" nannies will sometimes try to play you for the vacation weeks - decide they're moving, returning to school, whatever, but take vacation before giving notice. If you go with accrue method, you can mostly avoid this.

Just curious, we are hiring in the next month or so, would you still require the time to accrue so close to the holidays?

Yes. You could choose to allow "going negative" on vacation balance with a contract provision like ours that requires repayment of any time taken in excess of accrual, or you could just do straight accrual and only pay for what's been accrued. But yes, I'm pretty hard nosed about it now because I really don't want to fund vacations for more than one nanny within a year, and you never know what will happen.

You are heartless. I can't imagine any MB refusing me vacation time during the holidays. PPs nanny won't have accrued more then a day and a half by Christmas. Please do not follow this advice. This is the advice of someone who is bitter and resentful from a past hurt. Sorry you had a bad nanny but you need to let go of the anger instead of taking it out on someone who has not earned it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:After 7 years of employing nannies, here's what we do:

We give nanny the same federal holidays we get. It's not all of them. We also give day after Thanksgiving because we never work that day, though I prefer not to put it in the contract and instead give it as a "bonus day" closer to the holiday.

For vacation, we hive two weeks - one our choice, one hers. I do not allow ANY paid vacation during the first 60 days, though. Vacation can accrue but not be taken during that time. Our nanny accrues vacation, but the contract says she can take the time before it is accrued, provided that if she ends employment with a negative vacation balance it will be deducted from her final check.

Even "nice" nannies will sometimes try to play you for the vacation weeks - decide they're moving, returning to school, whatever, but take vacation before giving notice. If you go with accrue method, you can mostly avoid this.

Just curious, we are hiring in the next month or so, would you still require the time to accrue so close to the holidays?

Yes. You could choose to allow "going negative" on vacation balance with a contract provision like ours that requires repayment of any time taken in excess of accrual, or you could just do straight accrual and only pay for what's been accrued. But yes, I'm pretty hard nosed about it now because I really don't want to fund vacations for more than one nanny within a year, and you never know what will happen.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:After 7 years of employing nannies, here's what we do:

We give nanny the same federal holidays we get. It's not all of them. We also give day after Thanksgiving because we never work that day, though I prefer not to put it in the contract and instead give it as a "bonus day" closer to the holiday.

For vacation, we hive two weeks - one our choice, one hers. I do not allow ANY paid vacation during the first 60 days, though. Vacation can accrue but not be taken during that time. Our nanny accrues vacation, but the contract says she can take the time before it is accrued, provided that if she ends employment with a negative vacation balance it will be deducted from her final check.

Even "nice" nannies will sometimes try to play you for the vacation weeks - decide they're moving, returning to school, whatever, but take vacation before giving notice. If you go with accrue method, you can mostly avoid this.

Just curious, we are hiring in the next month or so, would you still require the time to accrue so close to the holidays?