Anonymous
07/21/2014 10:00
Subject: Re:Why some some mb's have been known to lie to their friends about what they pay the nanny
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So FUNNY how none of you discuss with your friends
what you pay your nanny, yet you ALL seem to know
"market rates," based on what "everyone" you know,
is paying.
Just HOW does that work, ladies?
PERHAPS, you've cooked your own goose this time.
In other words, you can't keep your LIES straight.
So now, let's try this arguement all over again,
but with a smarter strategy.
Put down the crack pipe, child.
No one is cooking anyone's goose. Market rates are very easy to research.
We get it. You don't like market rates. Too bad.
Where's the link for your so-called market rate data?
Where's yours? My "research" comes from the fact that I hired and have kept a wonderful nanny for 3 years now and I don't pay her $35/hr. Every nanny I interviewed (and I interviewed a lot of good candidates) quoted me in the same range of hourly rates. I don't actually think there is a market rate. You want a nanny? Decide what you can pay, interview nannies and see if they meet your expectations. If so, there you go, if not, decide if you can afford more or go a different route for childcare. It doesn't matter what anyone else is paying and it DEFINITELY doesn't matter what people on an anonymous internet forum say they make/pay.
If you, as a nanny, think you deserve more than you are making then make yourself worthy of it and find a job that will pay you that. If you are the $35/hr nanny and are already making what you want then good for you but then why do you care what other people make? If you can't seem to find a job that pays what you want then you aren't actual worth what you think you are. Or maybe people finally took your advice and decided to go the daycare route because you said most people can't actually afford a nanny so you just screwed yourself out of a job.
Hey poster of the crack pipe and this most recent response - we should be friends. We would get along, and I bet our long term nannies would also. You probably have well-adjusted kids I'd be happy to have mine meet. It would be the most productive development to result from the random verse ranter's posts ever (perhaps the only one!)
Totally agree w/ your comments.
Can I be friends with you too? 15:41 here - totally agree with everything these PPs have said. You can afford a nanny if a nanny you'd want to hire wants to work for you for the pay you are offering. If no one wants to work for you, maybe it's time to rethink what you are offering or go the daycare route but if several great candidates are interested at the rate you are offering, you can afford a nanny regardless of whether some anonymous posters on a forum tell you you can't or that the person you've hired is a sitter or whatever.
Anonymous
07/21/2014 09:46
Subject: Why some some mb's have been known to lie to their friends about what they pay the nanny
Precisely. There is no market research data.
Two reasons:
1. No clear definition of what a nanny is.
2. Most domestic labor is underground.
Two reasons:
1. No clear definition of what a nanny is.
2. Most domestic labor is underground.
Anonymous
07/21/2014 09:31
Subject: Re:Why some some mb's have been known to lie to their friends about what they pay the nanny
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So FUNNY how none of you discuss with your friends
what you pay your nanny, yet you ALL seem to know
"market rates," based on what "everyone" you know,
is paying.
Just HOW does that work, ladies?
PERHAPS, you've cooked your own goose this time.
In other words, you can't keep your LIES straight.
So now, let's try this arguement all over again,
but with a smarter strategy.
Put down the crack pipe, child.
No one is cooking anyone's goose. Market rates are very easy to research.
We get it. You don't like market rates. Too bad.
Where's the link for your so-called market rate data?
Where's yours? My "research" comes from the fact that I hired and have kept a wonderful nanny for 3 years now and I don't pay her $35/hr. Every nanny I interviewed (and I interviewed a lot of good candidates) quoted me in the same range of hourly rates. I don't actually think there is a market rate. You want a nanny? Decide what you can pay, interview nannies and see if they meet your expectations. If so, there you go, if not, decide if you can afford more or go a different route for childcare. It doesn't matter what anyone else is paying and it DEFINITELY doesn't matter what people on an anonymous internet forum say they make/pay.
If you, as a nanny, think you deserve more than you are making then make yourself worthy of it and find a job that will pay you that. If you are the $35/hr nanny and are already making what you want then good for you but then why do you care what other people make? If you can't seem to find a job that pays what you want then you aren't actual worth what you think you are. Or maybe people finally took your advice and decided to go the daycare route because you said most people can't actually afford a nanny so you just screwed yourself out of a job.
Hey poster of the crack pipe and this most recent response - we should be friends. We would get along, and I bet our long term nannies would also. You probably have well-adjusted kids I'd be happy to have mine meet. It would be the most productive development to result from the random verse ranter's posts ever (perhaps the only one!)
Totally agree w/ your comments.
Anonymous
07/21/2014 08:34
Subject: Re:Why some some mb's have been known to lie to their friends about what they pay the nanny
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So FUNNY how none of you discuss with your friends
what you pay your nanny, yet you ALL seem to know
"market rates," based on what "everyone" you know,
is paying.
Just HOW does that work, ladies?
PERHAPS, you've cooked your own goose this time.
In other words, you can't keep your LIES straight.
So now, let's try this arguement all over again,
but with a smarter strategy.
Put down the crack pipe, child.
No one is cooking anyone's goose. Market rates are very easy to research.
We get it. You don't like market rates. Too bad.
Where's the link for your so-called market rate data?
Where's yours? My "research" comes from the fact that I hired and have kept a wonderful nanny for 3 years now and I don't pay her $35/hr. Every nanny I interviewed (and I interviewed a lot of good candidates) quoted me in the same range of hourly rates. I don't actually think there is a market rate. You want a nanny? Decide what you can pay, interview nannies and see if they meet your expectations. If so, there you go, if not, decide if you can afford more or go a different route for childcare. It doesn't matter what anyone else is paying and it DEFINITELY doesn't matter what people on an anonymous internet forum say they make/pay.
If you, as a nanny, think you deserve more than you are making then make yourself worthy of it and find a job that will pay you that. If you are the $35/hr nanny and are already making what you want then good for you but then why do you care what other people make? If you can't seem to find a job that pays what you want then you aren't actual worth what you think you are. Or maybe people finally took your advice and decided to go the daycare route because you said most people can't actually afford a nanny so you just screwed yourself out of a job.
Anonymous
07/21/2014 07:30
Subject: Re:Why some some mb's have been known to lie to their friends about what they pay the nanny
Anonymous wrote:So FUNNY how none of you discuss with your friends
what you pay your nanny, yet you ALL seem to know
"market rates," based on what "everyone" you know,
is paying.
Just HOW does that work, ladies?
PERHAPS, you've cooked your own goose this time.
In other words, you can't keep your LIES straight.
So now, let's try this arguement all over again,
but with a smarter strategy.
Put down the crack pipe, child.
No one is cooking anyone's goose. Market rates are very easy to research.
We get it. You don't like market rates. Too bad.
Where's the link for your so-called market rate data?
Anonymous
07/21/2014 03:37
Subject: Re:Why some some mb's have been known to lie to their friends about what they pay the nanny
So FUNNY how none of you discuss with your friends
what you pay your nanny, yet you ALL seem to know
"market rates," based on what "everyone" you know,
is paying.
Just HOW does that work, ladies?
PERHAPS, you've cooked your own goose this time.
In other words, you can't keep your LIES straight.
So now, let's try this arguement all over again,
but with a smarter strategy.
Put down the crack pipe, child.
No one is cooking anyone's goose. Market rates are very easy to research.
We get it. You don't like market rates. Too bad.
Anonymous
07/21/2014 00:06
Subject: Why some some mb's have been known to lie to their friends about what they pay the nanny
Anonymous wrote:PP, listen. I am a nanny. I posted the other day that the nannies I know personally were hired from between $10-$25/hr. We are in complete agreement that there is a varied "market" for nannies - some with multiples experience, some fluent in Italian, some who grew up with a Montessori or Waldorf background, a huge range of things that can make a nanny stand out for a particular family. And of course formal education and experience should both up your starting rate.
But. When first-time parents go on care.com to see if they can afford a nanny and 75% of the nannies in their city are saying $15/hr for their desired rate, they're going to assume that's the most common/standard "market rate." It's not really that complicated.
Their ignorance = Their problem
Isn't care.com where that genius CA couple found that squatter, they wanted to believe was a nanny? It's called ENTITLEMENT. They thought they deserved AFFORDABLE childcare and house cleaning services. You get what you pay for. They certainly did. I have less and less patience with parental selfishness and NEGLIGENCE. Most parents simply can't afford the luxury of a private duty nanny.
Anonymous
07/20/2014 23:48
Subject: Why some some mb's have been known to lie to their friends about what they pay the nanny
PP, listen. I am a nanny. I posted the other day that the nannies I know personally were hired from between $10-$25/hr. We are in complete agreement that there is a varied "market" for nannies - some with multiples experience, some fluent in Italian, some who grew up with a Montessori or Waldorf background, a huge range of things that can make a nanny stand out for a particular family. And of course formal education and experience should both up your starting rate.
But. When first-time parents go on care.com to see if they can afford a nanny and 75% of the nannies in their city are saying $15/hr for their desired rate, they're going to assume that's the most common/standard "market rate." It's not really that complicated.
But. When first-time parents go on care.com to see if they can afford a nanny and 75% of the nannies in their city are saying $15/hr for their desired rate, they're going to assume that's the most common/standard "market rate." It's not really that complicated.
Anonymous
07/20/2014 23:37
Subject: Why some some mb's have been known to lie to their friends about what they pay the nanny
So FUNNY how none of you discuss with your friends
what you pay your nanny, yet you ALL seem to know
"market rates," based on what "everyone" you know,
is paying.
Just HOW does that work, ladies?
PERHAPS, you've cooked your own goose this time.
In other words, you can't keep your LIES straight.
So now, let's try this arguement all over again,
but with a smarter strategy.
Anonymous
07/20/2014 23:24
Subject: Why some some mb's have been known to lie to their friends about what they pay the nanny
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here we are...
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/articles/40290/dc-mommy-fight-site/
Mommies with Nannies aren't the only Mommies who fight.
Um, first of all just because that's what a newspaper called DCUM in order to make it sound interesting doesn't mean that's what people actually call it. Second of all, while there are lots of argumentative and judgmental people on DCUM, what happens on an anonymous message board doesn't necessarily translate into real life. And third of all, while lots of parents may secretly judge other parents for their choices in parenting no one talks about what they pay their nannies. Sorry to disappoint you ladies but honestly, unless someone is looking to hire a nanny, they just don't care. I could not care less what my friends pay their nannies. I know what I pay my wonderful nanny who has been for us for several years now. And to be honest, if someone started talking about what they paid their nanny, I'd judge them for talking about it, not for what they pay.
The only moms that I know who talk about what they pay their nanny are always trying to get us to agree that $10/hr is plenty to offer for such an easy job and it's unreasonable that their nannies keep quitting. These are two women who've been best friends since HS and say things like, "This is Jacinda, she has the pleasure of spending every day with little Aiden!" rather than, "This is Jacinda, Aiden's wonderful nanny." I don't understand their motivation for doing this because everyone else gets tight-lipped, they aren't exactly getting reinforcement. Obviously it is not enough.
Anyway, other than those two I also don't know any parents who discuss what they pay their nanny.
Anonymous
07/20/2014 22:05
Subject: Why some some mb's have been known to lie to their friends about what they pay the nanny
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here we are...
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/articles/40290/dc-mommy-fight-site/
Mommies with Nannies aren't the only Mommies who fight.
Um, first of all just because that's what a newspaper called DCUM in order to make it sound interesting doesn't mean that's what people actually call it. Second of all, while there are lots of argumentative and judgmental people on DCUM, what happens on an anonymous message board doesn't necessarily translate into real life. And third of all, while lots of parents may secretly judge other parents for their choices in parenting no one talks about what they pay their nannies. Sorry to disappoint you ladies but honestly, unless someone is looking to hire a nanny, they just don't care. I could not care less what my friends pay their nannies. I know what I pay my wonderful nanny who has been for us for several years now. And to be honest, if someone started talking about what they paid their nanny, I'd judge them for talking about it, not for what they pay.
You sound quite unusual, especially because you are blessed to have a wonderful nanny. I wish you all the best.
Anonymous
07/20/2014 15:23
Subject: Why some some mb's have been known to lie to their friends about what they pay the nanny
Anonymous wrote:Here we are...
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/articles/40290/dc-mommy-fight-site/
Mommies with Nannies aren't the only Mommies who fight.
Um, first of all just because that's what a newspaper called DCUM in order to make it sound interesting doesn't mean that's what people actually call it. Second of all, while there are lots of argumentative and judgmental people on DCUM, what happens on an anonymous message board doesn't necessarily translate into real life. And third of all, while lots of parents may secretly judge other parents for their choices in parenting no one talks about what they pay their nannies. Sorry to disappoint you ladies but honestly, unless someone is looking to hire a nanny, they just don't care. I could not care less what my friends pay their nannies. I know what I pay my wonderful nanny who has been for us for several years now. And to be honest, if someone started talking about what they paid their nanny, I'd judge them for talking about it, not for what they pay.
Anonymous
07/20/2014 06:31
Subject: Why some some mb's have been known to lie to their friends about what they pay the nanny
Truth be told. Damn.
Anonymous
07/20/2014 05:34
Subject: Why some some mb's have been known to lie to their friends about what they pay the nanny
Here we are...
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/articles/40290/dc-mommy-fight-site/
Mommies with Nannies aren't the only Mommies who fight.
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/articles/40290/dc-mommy-fight-site/
Mommies with Nannies aren't the only Mommies who fight.
Anonymous
07/20/2014 02:56
Subject: Why some some mb's have been known to lie to their friends about what they pay the nanny
well, since no one actually calls DCUM the Mommy Fight Site, it's pretty clear you don't know what you're talking about, PP.