Anonymous
07/17/2014 13:32
Subject: should I pay nanny if I let her go home for 4 hours everyday?
You don't pay her for hours she isn't working, but you also can't assume she is reserving that time for you on holidays or snow days. You need to schedule her in advance or be the first person to call her on snow days like everyone else. If you have a good relationship with her and she knows when you will need her she may even contact you first and ask if you want her to come in on a school half day or snow day.
Anonymous
07/17/2014 12:34
Subject: should I pay nanny if I let her go home for 4 hours everyday?
As the first respnder said, if you ask her to do mornings and come back in the afternoons, she will leave. You're asking her to leave, not her requesting to leave. You said insurance is paying for the therapist so it isn't like you're paying for services twice during those hours.. Stop being cheap and either find 2 sitters (1 for mornings and 1 for afternoons) or pay her her for the entire day. She can observe the sessions your child have with the therapists and perhaps continue practice with the child afterwards or at least have knowledge of what to do. Hope this helps?
Anonymous
07/16/2014 19:38
Subject: should I pay nanny if I let her go home for 4 hours everyday?
She's a sitter, not a nanny.
Anonymous
07/16/2014 19:30
Subject: Re:should I pay nanny if I let her go home for 4 hours everyday?
Anonymous wrote:Thank you all for your responses.
Well we are trying to increase her salary and reduce her hours from 10 hours a day to 7 hours so was thinking this would be a good way to do it.
The ABA therapist does not need anyone around so thats not an issue.
In fact the nanny sometimes interferes and conflicts with the therapists or keeps ranting her personal issues to them and wastes their time
so I feel its best for her to be out of the way when they are around.
We participate in therapy twice a week and dont really feel that nanny participating adds much value.
When the therapist was off,she tried doing it without much success anyways so maybe all she does is chit-chat rather than paying attention.
I do agree that if therapist is off and child is sick we would need to pay her and we would do that whenever that is the case.
The reason for the split hours is that she is most useful in the mornings when we are scrambling to get to work and dont want to lose that.
After that she does kids laundary and clean up in the kitchen area.
She is not too happy unloading dishes etc as she feels its extra work for her since it also has our dishes.
I am not too happy with the cooking skills so I have to do most of the cooking as well.
So she has almost 3-4 hours of free time which she uses chatting away on phone(and for which I am paying!)
The only reason I have to keep her is that my autistic kiddo doesnt do good with sudden drastic changes and she has been with him for a year now.
And if I reduced her hours to like 4 hours a day she will not agree as it will reduce her pay.
Special needs "mommy" here again. I have an autistic child and if I was as unthrilled (for good reason) as you are with your nanny , I would find a new one.
Then you probably wouldn't mind paying for the extra hours since that person would be more productive and engage your child more. Are you sure that your current nanny isn't just letting your child do whatever (stim, wander around the house, watch tv) when you aren't around? If she is texting and chit-chatting when you and the therapists are there, you can bet she is doing more of that when no one is around.
Anonymous
07/16/2014 14:24
Subject: should I pay nanny if I let her go home for 4 hours everyday?
OP, it doesn't seem like you think very highly of your nanny at all. Cleaning up after you (doing your dishes) is not really part of a nanny's job description, and it's something that annoys me as well since a lot of families tend to "not have time to do dishes" except for when I'm around. It may be convenient for you to have her there from 7-9, but you really have to ask her what will work for her in this situation. If you really hate her as much as you seem to I would transition to a new nanny sooner rather than later. Yes, it will be hard with your son being autistic, but it will be easier to do it now rather than in a few years.
Maybe she will agree to work the afternoons, and you can find someone to come in the morning to do the dishes or chores that you can't get done when you're getting ready for work.
Maybe she will agree to work the afternoons, and you can find someone to come in the morning to do the dishes or chores that you can't get done when you're getting ready for work.
Anonymous
07/16/2014 14:16
Subject: Re:should I pay nanny if I let her go home for 4 hours everyday?
Thank you all for your responses.
Well we are trying to increase her salary and reduce her hours from 10 hours a day to 7 hours so was thinking this would be a good way to do it.
The ABA therapist does not need anyone around so thats not an issue.
In fact the nanny sometimes interferes and conflicts with the therapists or keeps ranting her personal issues to them and wastes their time
so I feel its best for her to be out of the way when they are around.
We participate in therapy twice a week and dont really feel that nanny participating adds much value.
When the therapist was off,she tried doing it without much success anyways so maybe all she does is chit-chat rather than paying attention.
I do agree that if therapist is off and child is sick we would need to pay her and we would do that whenever that is the case.
The reason for the split hours is that she is most useful in the mornings when we are scrambling to get to work and dont want to lose that.
After that she does kids laundary and clean up in the kitchen area.
She is not too happy unloading dishes etc as she feels its extra work for her since it also has our dishes.
I am not too happy with the cooking skills so I have to do most of the cooking as well.
So she has almost 3-4 hours of free time which she uses chatting away on phone(and for which I am paying!)
The only reason I have to keep her is that my autistic kiddo doesnt do good with sudden drastic changes and she has been with him for a year now.
And if I reduced her hours to like 4 hours a day she will not agree as it will reduce her pay.
Well we are trying to increase her salary and reduce her hours from 10 hours a day to 7 hours so was thinking this would be a good way to do it.
The ABA therapist does not need anyone around so thats not an issue.
In fact the nanny sometimes interferes and conflicts with the therapists or keeps ranting her personal issues to them and wastes their time
so I feel its best for her to be out of the way when they are around.
We participate in therapy twice a week and dont really feel that nanny participating adds much value.
When the therapist was off,she tried doing it without much success anyways so maybe all she does is chit-chat rather than paying attention.
I do agree that if therapist is off and child is sick we would need to pay her and we would do that whenever that is the case.
The reason for the split hours is that she is most useful in the mornings when we are scrambling to get to work and dont want to lose that.
After that she does kids laundary and clean up in the kitchen area.
She is not too happy unloading dishes etc as she feels its extra work for her since it also has our dishes.
I am not too happy with the cooking skills so I have to do most of the cooking as well.
So she has almost 3-4 hours of free time which she uses chatting away on phone(and for which I am paying!)
The only reason I have to keep her is that my autistic kiddo doesnt do good with sudden drastic changes and she has been with him for a year now.
And if I reduced her hours to like 4 hours a day she will not agree as it will reduce her pay.
Anonymous
07/16/2014 09:54
Subject: should I pay nanny if I let her go home for 4 hours everyday?
Anonymous wrote:Hi Mommies,
I am considering changing my hours for my full-time nanny who is on salary currently to being hourly.
We dont need that many hours because we have special needs kid who started getting a therapist that comes to take care of him for 5 hours each day and which is covered by insurance.
What I am proposing is that she comes in from 7-9 am and then leave and come back from 2-7 pm so the total working hours are 7 hours each day.
Do I need to pay her for the hours(9-1:30) everyday that she will be out of the house just to keep the option open in case the therapist is on vacation or the kiddo is sick?
Or can I just pay her on an as-needed basis when that happens?
I need to think of all this before I write up the contract.
Thanks
You can always ask the nanny if the arrangement will work for her, you never know. Maybe she lives nearby and would like a break in her own house. Maybe she's a student and can use that time for classes. Barring that:
1. If she treats you as her full-time job and the primary source of income, it would likely be unwelcome. She would have to find another job within these hours and still be available to you afterwards.
2. Can you stagger the hours so that there is no split shift, and the therapist comes for the 1st half of the day, and the nanny later?
3. If you want the nanny to be available just in case during the day (therapist out of sick, etc.), you'd have to pay for the whole day, no way around it.
4. There is nothing wrong with realizing that you no longer need full-time nanny care, and figuring out another arrangement. You just can't pay a part-time wage and expect full-time coverage.
Anonymous
07/16/2014 09:40
Subject: should I pay nanny if I let her go home for 4 hours everyday?
I love a split sift (no pay between hrs) I get to eat lunch at home and walk my dog. Add in a once a week date night and it's a great gig for the right person.
Anonymous
07/15/2014 22:40
Subject: should I pay nanny if I let her go home for 4 hours everyday?
You can ask her if there's anything she'd like to do.