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Anonymous wrote:I was working for a kosher family before, not as a live-in but still preparing meals and stuff for the kids. Since the parents weren't there I didn't really pay attention or care to stick to their guidelines. They had separate things labeled for different uses but say if I washed a fork or whatever I would just put it back wherever was closest. For the future, if I ever interview with a kosher family with older kids that can talk I wouldn't take the job, it's just not worth the hassle.

That is pretty crappy.

I agree. But it's pretty farfetched to force a nonbeliever into a believer when they aren't on board with your same beliefs. I think I'd try to get someone on board from the getgo.

Jewish person here. It's not forcing someone to believe what you believe when you ask them to maintain your household rituals (that happen to be steeped in religion). It's like the owner of a house saying "We have mail and newspapers delivered daily. Mail goes here in this spot, while the newspaper goes there in that spot. It's very important to us each goes in its respective spot." And then the person saying "Screw that - I'll just toss the mail in the newspaper spot because it's closer to where I'm standing."

To all you non-Jews who worry about screwing up the kosher kitchen, just try your hardest and if you make a mistake, what a rabbi would say is that the mistake is an honest one and it wasn't made by the Jewish person which makes it even less bad, so just try to do it right going forward. I know people who keep Kosher, and when they're having a party or people new to their home, they tape post-its to the different cabinets and drawers that say "Meat" and "Dairy" so it will be easy for others to keep things straight.

Here's the thing. For some people, what they do needs to make SOME kind of sense. So if you said please put the mail in the corner of the playroom in the basement, it'd take a pretty special person to do that. And then worry about your kid ripping up your mail.
Personally, I'm fine with different religious observations. In fact, we traveled quite extensively as children, in order to learn about different cultures.
As a side note, there's a health benefit to the separation of meat and dairy. Few people seem to be aware of that.

I'm the PP that worked for the jewish family, and I agree with you. If it made sense I would do it but this was just silly and a ton of extra work. When you ask me to put the kids underwear in the bottom drawer I will do it even thought it is silly because it's simple, but when you ask me to do twice as much work, run two dishwashers, boil stuff, and run around crazy in the kitchen for a reason only you care about then I just can't do that unless you are paying extra.

Then you shouldn't be working for that family. What if the family said, "we don't believe in Jesus so it doesn't make sense to us to celebrate Christmas, therefore you need to work on Christmas. You can have Rosh Hashana off instead." It's fine if you think it's too much work but then don't work for them. It's really disrespectful to just ignore their wishes without telling them how you feel.

You're being disingenuous here, and I think you know it. Expecting a non-believer to observe your religious customs, would be like expecting you to go to church on Christmas.

No it's not like expecting me to go to church on Christmas. That would be like expecting the nanny to go to Synagogue on Yom Kippur which no one has advocated for. It's about respecting someone's home and property and beliefs. Again, if you don't want to do it, then get another job. It's more disingenuous to take a job with certain expectations and then just to decide not to do them because you think it's too much work. Then instead of talking to your employers about it you just pretend to do it instead. If you think you deserve a salary increase then ask for it. I'm not saying it isn't extra work and that it's not worth paying extra for. I don't understand though how anyone can say it's ok for her to pretend to keep their house kosher but not actually be bothered to do it. That's wrong for SO many reasons.

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Anonymous wrote:I was working for a kosher family before, not as a live-in but still preparing meals and stuff for the kids. Since the parents weren't there I didn't really pay attention or care to stick to their guidelines. They had separate things labeled for different uses but say if I washed a fork or whatever I would just put it back wherever was closest. For the future, if I ever interview with a kosher family with older kids that can talk I wouldn't take the job, it's just not worth the hassle.

That is pretty crappy.

I agree. But it's pretty farfetched to force a nonbeliever into a believer when they aren't on board with your same beliefs. I think I'd try to get someone on board from the getgo.

Jewish person here. It's not forcing someone to believe what you believe when you ask them to maintain your household rituals (that happen to be steeped in religion). It's like the owner of a house saying "We have mail and newspapers delivered daily. Mail goes here in this spot, while the newspaper goes there in that spot. It's very important to us each goes in its respective spot." And then the person saying "Screw that - I'll just toss the mail in the newspaper spot because it's closer to where I'm standing."

To all you non-Jews who worry about screwing up the kosher kitchen, just try your hardest and if you make a mistake, what a rabbi would say is that the mistake is an honest one and it wasn't made by the Jewish person which makes it even less bad, so just try to do it right going forward. I know people who keep Kosher, and when they're having a party or people new to their home, they tape post-its to the different cabinets and drawers that say "Meat" and "Dairy" so it will be easy for others to keep things straight.

Here's the thing. For some people, what they do needs to make SOME kind of sense. So if you said please put the mail in the corner of the playroom in the basement, it'd take a pretty special person to do that. And then worry about your kid ripping up your mail.
Personally, I'm fine with different religious observations. In fact, we traveled quite extensively as children, in order to learn about different cultures.
As a side note, there's a health benefit to the separation of meat and dairy. Few people seem to be aware of that.

I'm the PP that worked for the jewish family, and I agree with you. If it made sense I would do it but this was just silly and a ton of extra work. When you ask me to put the kids underwear in the bottom drawer I will do it even thought it is silly because it's simple, but when you ask me to do twice as much work, run two dishwashers, boil stuff, and run around crazy in the kitchen for a reason only you care about then I just can't do that unless you are paying extra.

Then you shouldn't be working for that family. What if the family said, "we don't believe in Jesus so it doesn't make sense to us to celebrate Christmas, therefore you need to work on Christmas. You can have Rosh Hashana off instead." It's fine if you think it's too much work but then don't work for them. It's really disrespectful to just ignore their wishes without telling them how you feel.

You're being disingenuous here, and I think you know it. Expecting a non-believer to observe your religious customs, would be like expecting you to go to church on Christmas.

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Anonymous wrote:I was working for a kosher family before, not as a live-in but still preparing meals and stuff for the kids. Since the parents weren't there I didn't really pay attention or care to stick to their guidelines. They had separate things labeled for different uses but say if I washed a fork or whatever I would just put it back wherever was closest. For the future, if I ever interview with a kosher family with older kids that can talk I wouldn't take the job, it's just not worth the hassle.

That is pretty crappy.

I agree. But it's pretty farfetched to force a nonbeliever into a believer when they aren't on board with your same beliefs. I think I'd try to get someone on board from the getgo.

Jewish person here. It's not forcing someone to believe what you believe when you ask them to maintain your household rituals (that happen to be steeped in religion). It's like the owner of a house saying "We have mail and newspapers delivered daily. Mail goes here in this spot, while the newspaper goes there in that spot. It's very important to us each goes in its respective spot." And then the person saying "Screw that - I'll just toss the mail in the newspaper spot because it's closer to where I'm standing."

To all you non-Jews who worry about screwing up the kosher kitchen, just try your hardest and if you make a mistake, what a rabbi would say is that the mistake is an honest one and it wasn't made by the Jewish person which makes it even less bad, so just try to do it right going forward. I know people who keep Kosher, and when they're having a party or people new to their home, they tape post-its to the different cabinets and drawers that say "Meat" and "Dairy" so it will be easy for others to keep things straight.

Here's the thing. For some people, what they do needs to make SOME kind of sense. So if you said please put the mail in the corner of the playroom in the basement, it'd take a pretty special person to do that. And then worry about your kid ripping up your mail.
Personally, I'm fine with different religious observations. In fact, we traveled quite extensively as children, in order to learn about different cultures.
As a side note, there's a health benefit to the separation of meat and dairy. Few people seem to be aware of that.

I'm the PP that worked for the jewish family, and I agree with you. If it made sense I would do it but this was just silly and a ton of extra work. When you ask me to put the kids underwear in the bottom drawer I will do it even thought it is silly because it's simple, but when you ask me to do twice as much work, run two dishwashers, boil stuff, and run around crazy in the kitchen for a reason only you care about then I just can't do that unless you are paying extra.

Then you shouldn't be working for that family. What if the family said, "we don't believe in Jesus so it doesn't make sense to us to celebrate Christmas, therefore you need to work on Christmas. You can have Rosh Hashana off instead." It's fine if you think it's too much work but then don't work for them. It's really disrespectful to just ignore their wishes without telling them how you feel.

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Anonymous wrote:I was working for a kosher family before, not as a live-in but still preparing meals and stuff for the kids. Since the parents weren't there I didn't really pay attention or care to stick to their guidelines. They had separate things labeled for different uses but say if I washed a fork or whatever I would just put it back wherever was closest. For the future, if I ever interview with a kosher family with older kids that can talk I wouldn't take the job, it's just not worth the hassle.

That is pretty crappy.

I agree. But it's pretty farfetched to force a nonbeliever into a believer when they aren't on board with your same beliefs. I think I'd try to get someone on board from the getgo.

Jewish person here. It's not forcing someone to believe what you believe when you ask them to maintain your household rituals (that happen to be steeped in religion). It's like the owner of a house saying "We have mail and newspapers delivered daily. Mail goes here in this spot, while the newspaper goes there in that spot. It's very important to us each goes in its respective spot." And then the person saying "Screw that - I'll just toss the mail in the newspaper spot because it's closer to where I'm standing."

To all you non-Jews who worry about screwing up the kosher kitchen, just try your hardest and if you make a mistake, what a rabbi would say is that the mistake is an honest one and it wasn't made by the Jewish person which makes it even less bad, so just try to do it right going forward. I know people who keep Kosher, and when they're having a party or people new to their home, they tape post-its to the different cabinets and drawers that say "Meat" and "Dairy" so it will be easy for others to keep things straight.

Here's the thing. For some people, what they do needs to make SOME kind of sense. So if you said please put the mail in the corner of the playroom in the basement, it'd take a pretty special person to do that. And then worry about your kid ripping up your mail.
Personally, I'm fine with different religious observations. In fact, we traveled quite extensively as children, in order to learn about different cultures.
As a side note, there's a health benefit to the separation of meat and dairy. Few people seem to be aware of that.

I'm the PP that worked for the jewish family, and I agree with you. If it made sense I would do it but this was just silly and a ton of extra work. When you ask me to put the kids underwear in the bottom drawer I will do it even thought it is silly because it's simple, but when you ask me to do twice as much work, run two dishwashers, boil stuff, and run around crazy in the kitchen for a reason only you care about then I just can't do that unless you are paying extra.

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Anonymous wrote:I was working for a kosher family before, not as a live-in but still preparing meals and stuff for the kids. Since the parents weren't there I didn't really pay attention or care to stick to their guidelines. They had separate things labeled for different uses but say if I washed a fork or whatever I would just put it back wherever was closest. For the future, if I ever interview with a kosher family with older kids that can talk I wouldn't take the job, it's just not worth the hassle.

That is pretty crappy.

I agree. But it's pretty farfetched to force a nonbeliever into a believer when they aren't on board with your same beliefs. I think I'd try to get someone on board from the getgo.

Jewish person here. It's not forcing someone to believe what you believe when you ask them to maintain your household rituals (that happen to be steeped in religion). It's like the owner of a house saying "We have mail and newspapers delivered daily. Mail goes here in this spot, while the newspaper goes there in that spot. It's very important to us each goes in its respective spot." And then the person saying "Screw that - I'll just toss the mail in the newspaper spot because it's closer to where I'm standing."

To all you non-Jews who worry about screwing up the kosher kitchen, just try your hardest and if you make a mistake, what a rabbi would say is that the mistake is an honest one and it wasn't made by the Jewish person which makes it even less bad, so just try to do it right going forward. I know people who keep Kosher, and when they're having a party or people new to their home, they tape post-its to the different cabinets and drawers that say "Meat" and "Dairy" so it will be easy for others to keep things straight.

Here's the thing. For some people, what they do needs to make SOME kind of sense. So if you said please put the mail in the corner of the playroom in the basement, it'd take a pretty special person to do that. And then worry about your kid ripping up your mail.
Personally, I'm fine with different religious observations. In fact, we traveled quite extensively as children, in order to learn about different cultures.
As a side note, there's a health benefit to the separation of meat and dairy. Few people seem to be aware of that.

I'm the PP that worked for the jewish family, and I agree with you. If it made sense I would do it but this was just silly and a ton of extra work. When you ask me to put the kids underwear in the bottom drawer I will do it even thought it is silly because it's simple, but when you ask me to do twice as much work, run two dishwashers, boil stuff, and run around crazy in the kitchen for a reason only you care about then I just can't do that unless you are paying extra.

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Anonymous wrote:I was working for a kosher family before, not as a live-in but still preparing meals and stuff for the kids. Since the parents weren't there I didn't really pay attention or care to stick to their guidelines. They had separate things labeled for different uses but say if I washed a fork or whatever I would just put it back wherever was closest. For the future, if I ever interview with a kosher family with older kids that can talk I wouldn't take the job, it's just not worth the hassle.

That is pretty crappy.

I agree. But it's pretty farfetched to force a nonbeliever into a believer when they aren't on board with your same beliefs. I think I'd try to get someone on board from the getgo.

Jewish person here. It's not forcing someone to believe what you believe when you ask them to maintain your household rituals (that happen to be steeped in religion). It's like the owner of a house saying "We have mail and newspapers delivered daily. Mail goes here in this spot, while the newspaper goes there in that spot. It's very important to us each goes in its respective spot." And then the person saying "Screw that - I'll just toss the mail in the newspaper spot because it's closer to where I'm standing."

To all you non-Jews who worry about screwing up the kosher kitchen, just try your hardest and if you make a mistake, what a rabbi would say is that the mistake is an honest one and it wasn't made by the Jewish person which makes it even less bad, so just try to do it right going forward. I know people who keep Kosher, and when they're having a party or people new to their home, they tape post-its to the different cabinets and drawers that say "Meat" and "Dairy" so it will be easy for others to keep things straight.

Here's the thing. For some people, what they do needs to make SOME kind of sense. So if you said please put the mail in the corner of the playroom in the basement, it'd take a pretty special person to do that. And then worry about your kid ripping up your mail.
Personally, I'm fine with different religious observations. In fact, we traveled quite extensively as children, in order to learn about different cultures.
As a side note, there's a health benefit to the separation of meat and dairy. Few people seem to be aware of that.

I'm the PP that worked for the jewish family, and I agree with you. If it made sense I would do it but this was just silly and a ton of extra work. When you ask me to put the kids underwear in the bottom drawer I will do it even thought it is silly because it's simple, but when you ask me to do twice as much work, run two dishwashers, boil stuff, and run around crazy in the kitchen for a reason only you care about then I just can't do that unless you are paying extra.

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Anonymous wrote:I was working for a kosher family before, not as a live-in but still preparing meals and stuff for the kids. Since the parents weren't there I didn't really pay attention or care to stick to their guidelines. They had separate things labeled for different uses but say if I washed a fork or whatever I would just put it back wherever was closest. For the future, if I ever interview with a kosher family with older kids that can talk I wouldn't take the job, it's just not worth the hassle.

That is pretty crappy.

I agree. But it's pretty farfetched to force a nonbeliever into a believer when they aren't on board with your same beliefs. I think I'd try to get someone on board from the getgo.

Jewish person here. It's not forcing someone to believe what you believe when you ask them to maintain your household rituals (that happen to be steeped in religion). It's like the owner of a house saying "We have mail and newspapers delivered daily. Mail goes here in this spot, while the newspaper goes there in that spot. It's very important to us each goes in its respective spot." And then the person saying "Screw that - I'll just toss the mail in the newspaper spot because it's closer to where I'm standing."

To all you non-Jews who worry about screwing up the kosher kitchen, just try your hardest and if you make a mistake, what a rabbi would say is that the mistake is an honest one and it wasn't made by the Jewish person which makes it even less bad, so just try to do it right going forward. I know people who keep Kosher, and when they're having a party or people new to their home, they tape post-its to the different cabinets and drawers that say "Meat" and "Dairy" so it will be easy for others to keep things straight.

Here's the thing. For some people, what they do needs to make SOME kind of sense. So if you said please put the mail in the corner of the playroom in the basement, it'd take a pretty special person to do that. And then worry about your kid ripping up your mail.
Personally, I'm fine with different religious observations. In fact, we traveled quite extensively as children, in order to learn about different cultures.
As a side note, there's a health benefit to the separation of meat and dairy. Few people seem to be aware of that.

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Anonymous wrote:I was working for a kosher family before, not as a live-in but still preparing meals and stuff for the kids. Since the parents weren't there I didn't really pay attention or care to stick to their guidelines. They had separate things labeled for different uses but say if I washed a fork or whatever I would just put it back wherever was closest. For the future, if I ever interview with a kosher family with older kids that can talk I wouldn't take the job, it's just not worth the hassle.

That is pretty crappy.

I agree. But it's pretty farfetched to force a nonbeliever into a believer when they aren't on board with your same beliefs. I think I'd try to get someone on board from the getgo.

Jewish person here. It's not forcing someone to believe what you believe when you ask them to maintain your household rituals (that happen to be steeped in religion). It's like the owner of a house saying "We have mail and newspapers delivered daily. Mail goes here in this spot, while the newspaper goes there in that spot. It's very important to us each goes in its respective spot." And then the person saying "Screw that - I'll just toss the mail in the newspaper spot because it's closer to where I'm standing."

To all you non-Jews who worry about screwing up the kosher kitchen, just try your hardest and if you make a mistake, what a rabbi would say is that the mistake is an honest one and it wasn't made by the Jewish person which makes it even less bad, so just try to do it right going forward. I know people who keep Kosher, and when they're having a party or people new to their home, they tape post-its to the different cabinets and drawers that say "Meat" and "Dairy" so it will be easy for others to keep things straight.

Here's the thing. For some people, what they do needs to make SOME kind of sense. So if you said please put the mail in the corner of the playroom in the basement, it'd take a pretty special person to do that. And then worry about your kid ripping up your mail.
Personally, I'm fine with different religious observations. In fact, we traveled quite extensively as children, in order to learn about different cultures.
As a side note, there's a health benefit to the separation of meat and dairy. Few people seem to be aware of that.

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Anonymous wrote:I was working for a kosher family before, not as a live-in but still preparing meals and stuff for the kids. Since the parents weren't there I didn't really pay attention or care to stick to their guidelines. They had separate things labeled for different uses but say if I washed a fork or whatever I would just put it back wherever was closest. For the future, if I ever interview with a kosher family with older kids that can talk I wouldn't take the job, it's just not worth the hassle.

That is pretty crappy.

I agree. But it's pretty farfetched to force a nonbeliever into a believer when they aren't on board with your same beliefs. I think I'd try to get someone on board from the getgo.

Jewish person here. It's not forcing someone to believe what you believe when you ask them to maintain your household rituals (that happen to be steeped in religion). It's like the owner of a house saying "We have mail and newspapers delivered daily. Mail goes here in this spot, while the newspaper goes there in that spot. It's very important to us each goes in its respective spot." And then the person saying "Screw that - I'll just toss the mail in the newspaper spot because it's closer to where I'm standing."

To all you non-Jews who worry about screwing up the kosher kitchen, just try your hardest and if you make a mistake, what a rabbi would say is that the mistake is an honest one and it wasn't made by the Jewish person which makes it even less bad, so just try to do it right going forward. I know people who keep Kosher, and when they're having a party or people new to their home, they tape post-its to the different cabinets and drawers that say "Meat" and "Dairy" so it will be easy for others to keep things straight.

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Anonymous wrote:I was working for a kosher family before, not as a live-in but still preparing meals and stuff for the kids. Since the parents weren't there I didn't really pay attention or care to stick to their guidelines. They had separate things labeled for different uses but say if I washed a fork or whatever I would just put it back wherever was closest. For the future, if I ever interview with a kosher family with older kids that can talk I wouldn't take the job, it's just not worth the hassle.

That is pretty crappy.

I agree. But it's pretty farfetched to force a nonbeliever into a believer when they aren't on board with your same beliefs. I think I'd try to get someone on board from the getgo.

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Anonymous wrote:I was working for a kosher family before, not as a live-in but still preparing meals and stuff for the kids. Since the parents weren't there I didn't really pay attention or care to stick to their guidelines. They had separate things labeled for different uses but say if I washed a fork or whatever I would just put it back wherever was closest. For the future, if I ever interview with a kosher family with older kids that can talk I wouldn't take the job, it's just not worth the hassle.

That is pretty crappy.

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Anonymous wrote:I was working for a kosher family before, not as a live-in but still preparing meals and stuff for the kids. Since the parents weren't there I didn't really pay attention or care to stick to their guidelines. They had separate things labeled for different uses but say if I washed a fork or whatever I would just put it back wherever was closest. For the future, if I ever interview with a kosher family with older kids that can talk I wouldn't take the job, it's just not worth the hassle.

You sound like a peach. It's not really that complicated, and I'm sure the parents figured it out since the meat and dairy utensils/forks LOOK DIFFERENT.