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Anonymous wrote:Just remember nannies are not protected by workplace laws. You don't legally have to pay a nanny any overtime above and beyond her regular salary. Just her typical salary for all hours worked.

OP, I want to tell you that this advice has been debunked a hundred times over. Use one of the nanny payroll company websites to check out their free articles on nanny pay. Much better to take advice from someplace that handles these issues regularly then to rely on one person's opinion.

+1. I'm an MB and I'd strongly recommend researching this yourself because there is a lot of misinformation here. You DO legally have to pay nanny OT for any hours she works over 40.

I work for one of the tax preparation companies in the NoVa area, I can tell you for fact that nannies are not legally entitled to OT that is higher than their base hourly pay. To make things simple let's assume the nanny is earning $10 an hour for simplicity. If she works 40 hours a week that is $400. If she works 50 she has made $500, 60 hours is $600 and so on. Nannies are not entitled to an OT rate at 1.5x, so she won't be earning $15 an hour no matter how many hours she is working.

Thanks.

Then how do you explain this: http://www.myhomepay.com/Answers/Nanny-Overtime

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just remember nannies are not protected by workplace laws. You don't legally have to pay a nanny any overtime above and beyond her regular salary. Just her typical salary for all hours worked.

OP, I want to tell you that this advice has been debunked a hundred times over. Use one of the nanny payroll company websites to check out their free articles on nanny pay. Much better to take advice from someplace that handles these issues regularly then to rely on one person's opinion.

+1. I'm an MB and I'd strongly recommend researching this yourself because there is a lot of misinformation here. You DO legally have to pay nanny OT for any hours she works over 40.

I work for one of the tax preparation companies in the NoVa area, I can tell you for fact that nannies are not legally entitled to OT that is higher than their base hourly pay. To make things simple let's assume the nanny is earning $10 an hour for simplicity. If she works 40 hours a week that is $400. If she works 50 she has made $500, 60 hours is $600 and so on. Nannies are not entitled to an OT rate at 1.5x, so she won't be earning $15 an hour no matter how many hours she is working.

Thanks.

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Anonymous wrote:Just remember nannies are not protected by workplace laws. You don't legally have to pay a nanny any overtime above and beyond her regular salary. Just her typical salary for all hours worked.

Sarcasm?

Looks like old school trolling to me

Anonymous wrote:Just remember nannies are not protected by workplace laws. You don't legally have to pay a nanny any overtime above and beyond her regular salary. Just her typical salary for all hours worked.

Sarcasm?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just remember nannies are not protected by workplace laws. You don't legally have to pay a nanny any overtime above and beyond her regular salary. Just her typical salary for all hours worked.

OP, I want to tell you that this advice has been debunked a hundred times over. Use one of the nanny payroll company websites to check out their free articles on nanny pay. Much better to take advice from someplace that handles these issues regularly then to rely on one person's opinion.

+1. I'm an MB and I'd strongly recommend researching this yourself because there is a lot of misinformation here. You DO legally have to pay nanny OT for any hours she works over 40.

Anonymous wrote:Just remember nannies are not protected by workplace laws. You don't legally have to pay a nanny any overtime above and beyond her regular salary. Just her typical salary for all hours worked.

OP, I want to tell you that this advice has been debunked a hundred times over. Use one of the nanny payroll company websites to check out their free articles on nanny pay. Much better to take advice from someplace that handles these issues regularly then to rely on one person's opinion.

Anonymous wrote:Just remember nannies are not protected by workplace laws. You don't legally have to pay a nanny any overtime above and beyond her regular salary. Just her typical salary for all hours worked.

Just remember, you sure do know how to be super dumb.

Just remember nannies are not protected by workplace laws. You don't legally have to pay a nanny any overtime above and beyond her regular salary. Just her typical salary for all hours worked.

Anonymous wrote:Every job I've advertised announces the rate I'm willing to pay. I know a lot of nannies instead want to tell the families the rate they want, but I'd rather not even interview someone who wants more than I can pay. So, I would absolutely say, in my ad, "job is 50 hours for $1000/wk, $18/hr base pay, $27/hr overtime." How is that either predatory or offensive?

That's perfect. It's a blended rate of $20 an hour, which is likely what the nanny wants to hear. But legally you need to contract it as base pay/overtime in order to comply with the OT laws. You can also guarantee the hours contractually if the nanny is concerned at all. It's not a secret to getting around the law at all. It's complying with the law in a transparent, above-board way that gets everyone what they need in the end--nanny gets the rate she/he is looking for, and employers are following labor laws.

I disagree that "most employers are more educated" when it comes to employment law. Most families have never been domestic employers before, and have no idea there are all these rules. They think of a nanny as either like a babysitter you pay the times she comes, or like a cleaning service which charges you and takes care of its own payments.

Most employers are not hourly workers themselves, or if they were, did it part time in retail or something, and have no idea that there are requirements for overtime and such unless they bothered to do the research.

In the DC area, this is much more on people's radar because of high-profile cases, political ambitions, and security clearances, but I daresay in most of the country most families have not considered it.

Anonymous wrote:Every job I've advertised announces the rate I'm willing to pay. I know a lot of nannies instead want to tell the families the rate they want, but I'd rather not even interview someone who wants more than I can pay. So, I would absolutely say, in my ad, "job is 50 hours for $1000/wk, $18/hr base pay, $27/hr overtime." How is that either predatory or offensive?

You can take a look at any number of nanny ads and you will see that they are not nearly that clear. Good for you if you are. You aren't the type we are talking about. There are lots of ads that don't specify the hours, only a weekly or hourly rate, then you waste your time interviewing and find out they only want to offer $350 for a "flexible" schedule, meaning you need to be available for any number of hours, and they want to play fast and loose with the OT laws. THAT is offensive, and it is predatory because as we all know there are lots of nannies that don't know the first thing about employment laws, while most employers are more educated and take advantage of that fact. It sickens me to see how quick MBs are to jump on here and help a fellow mom smooth talk her way out of paying OT (or as they say paying a lower base rate to "offset" the required OT).

Anonymous wrote:Every job I've advertised announces the rate I'm willing to pay. I know a lot of nannies instead want to tell the families the rate they want, but I'd rather not even interview someone who wants more than I can pay. So, I would absolutely say, in my ad, "job is 50 hours for $1000/wk, $18/hr base pay, $27/hr overtime." How is that either predatory or offensive?

That's fine. I don't think that's what pps were talking about. There was a poster responding to a thread a few days ago who said that overtime did not kick in until past the contracted hours. Her argument was you could pay $10 an hour for the 50 hours in the contract and didn't have to pay $15 until over the 50 hours.

Every job I've advertised announces the rate I'm willing to pay. I know a lot of nannies instead want to tell the families the rate they want, but I'd rather not even interview someone who wants more than I can pay. So, I would absolutely say, in my ad, "job is 50 hours for $1000/wk, $18/hr base pay, $27/hr overtime." How is that either predatory or offensive?

Backing into your rate may help you do the math but it is confusing and prone to counting errors. I would not suggest using that sort of language. Many of us have been burned by average rates and the like so it would be off putting to receive an offer that mentioned it. Of course newbies don't know ay better.

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Anonymous wrote:MB here.

Legally, anything over 40 hrs needs to be paid time and a half.

Ignore the posters on here that will say you only have to pay OT if nanny works more than the hours specified in contract. I.e some parents argue if the contract states a nanny works 50 hrs a week, overtime doesn't kick in until over 50 hours. This isn't true

Who has ever said anything like that? When you guarentee hours, of course, the OT is worked into the total guarentee amount (so 50 hours guarenteed at $10/hr - for easy math- base rate is guarenteed $550)
You only pay $15/hr /extra/ in that example if you go over 50 hours.

There has been a poster recently who is either confused by this, or is advocating ignoring OT all together and they have posted that nannies are only entitled to OT after their agreed upon schedule, which is simply not true. I really think MBs shouldn't be so quit to trot out the average rate trope whenever a question of rates is asked. It is unnecessarily confusing and inflammatory, and it obviously leads some to go about advertising and paying rates incorrectly. As a nanny I find the whole thing offensive to nannies who know exactly what they mean when they quote you a rate, and predatory to uninformed nannies.

Exactly. This thread was about OT not average rates, yet here you all are trying to teach a new MB the secret to getting around it. Just stop.