Anonymous wrote:This is very much a grey area of the law. A lot of Newborn Care Specialists do file as Independent Contractors, but it's not a black and white issue. If a family is worried or want to make sure they are 100% correct, then they should pay the NCS as an employee.

As for the training. I've taken more than one course that was "certified" by the NCSA and they were both junk. One was a Newborn Care course and the other was a sleep training course. Now that I know better and have learned more, I would reccomend the training through the Alexandria School. She has a 6 week online course starting in the next week or so and it's only $300, which is cheap compared to a lot of the NCSA courses.

Anonymous wrote:This is very much a grey area of the law. A lot of Newborn Care Specialists do file as Independent Contractors, but it's not a black and white issue. If a family is worried or want to make sure they are 100% correct, then they should pay the NCS as an employee.

As for the training. I've taken more than one course that was "certified" by the NCSA and they were both junk. One was a Newborn Care course and the other was a sleep training course. Now that I know better and have learned more, I would reccomend the training through the Alexandria School. She has a 6 week online course starting in the next week or so and it's only $300, which is cheap compared to a lot of the NCSA courses.

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Anonymous wrote:Deb, you really should know better. Every IC charges appropriate fees to cover the additional expenses. They tend to make out quiet well, unless they're as uninformed as you are.

So you're arguing that an IC doesn't in fact lose 2 times as much money to SS/Med taxes? Or are you attempting to say that double the loss makes no difference since they charge more to "make up for" the extra tax hit?

Either way, you are missing the basic math facts, which would tend to make you the uninformed person here. No matter HOW MUCH you make, if you have to pay double taxes, you are losing out.

Agree with Nannydeb. I mean sure, the nanny can double her rate so she can be an IC and have the higher rate make up for the extra taxes...but I imagine it is difficult for those nannies to find jobs if they are setting their wages at $40 an hour for $20

You don't need to imagine anything, as many of them are doing very well for themselves.

You're a looney tune. "Many" of them?? How many stupid nannies are running around calling themselves ICs charging inflated rates, besides you? What exactly is the benefit to classifying yourself this way? The government essentially charges you a self employment penalty.

Ask your CPA to educate you a bit. You'll be a new person.

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nannydebsays wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Deb, you really should know better. Every IC charges appropriate fees to cover the additional expenses. They tend to make out quiet well, unless they're as uninformed as you are.

So you're arguing that an IC doesn't in fact lose 2 times as much money to SS/Med taxes? Or are you attempting to say that double the loss makes no difference since they charge more to "make up for" the extra tax hit?

Either way, you are missing the basic math facts, which would tend to make you the uninformed person here. No matter HOW MUCH you make, if you have to pay double taxes, you are losing out.

Agree with Nannydeb. I mean sure, the nanny can double her rate so she can be an IC and have the higher rate make up for the extra taxes...but I imagine it is difficult for those nannies to find jobs if they are setting their wages at $40 an hour for $20

You don't need to imagine anything, as many of them are doing very well for themselves.

You're a looney tune. "Many" of them?? How many stupid nannies are running around calling themselves ICs charging inflated rates, besides you? What exactly is the benefit to classifying yourself this way? The government essentially charges you a self employment penalty.

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nannydebsays wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Deb, you really should know better. Every IC charges appropriate fees to cover the additional expenses. They tend to make out quiet well, unless they're as uninformed as you are.

So you're arguing that an IC doesn't in fact lose 2 times as much money to SS/Med taxes? Or are you attempting to say that double the loss makes no difference since they charge more to "make up for" the extra tax hit?

Either way, you are missing the basic math facts, which would tend to make you the uninformed person here. No matter HOW MUCH you make, if you have to pay double taxes, you are losing out.

Agree with Nannydeb. I mean sure, the nanny can double her rate so she can be an IC and have the higher rate make up for the extra taxes...but I imagine it is difficult for those nannies to find jobs if they are setting their wages at $40 an hour for $20

You don't need to imagine anything, as many of them are doing very well for themselves.

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nannydebsays wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Deb, you really should know better. Every IC charges appropriate fees to cover the additional expenses. They tend to make out quiet well, unless they're as uninformed as you are.

So you're arguing that an IC doesn't in fact lose 2 times as much money to SS/Med taxes? Or are you attempting to say that double the loss makes no difference since they charge more to "make up for" the extra tax hit?

Either way, you are missing the basic math facts, which would tend to make you the uninformed person here. No matter HOW MUCH you make, if you have to pay double taxes, you are losing out.

Agree with Nannydeb. I mean sure, the nanny can double her rate so she can be an IC and have the higher rate make up for the extra taxes...but I imagine it is difficult for those nannies to find jobs if they are setting their wages at $40 an hour for $20

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Anonymous wrote:Deb, you really should know better. Every IC charges appropriate fees to cover the additional expenses. They tend to make out quiet well, unless they're as uninformed as you are.

So you're arguing that an IC doesn't in fact lose 2 times as much money to SS/Med taxes? Or are you attempting to say that double the loss makes no difference since they charge more to "make up for" the extra tax hit?

Either way, you are missing the basic math facts, which would tend to make you the uninformed person here. No matter HOW MUCH you make, if you have to pay double taxes, you are losing out.

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Anonymous wrote:Some nannies are IC nannies. Some crazy person here is stupid or has an issue with that fact.

No, it's you who doesn't understand what makes an independent contractor, and that given what makes a nanny and a nanny job, it is very rare and unlikely that someone would qualify as both. While there may be a few out there, its generally not what parents who hire nannies want. They want someone who will do the job they design and the way they want it done, in their home, using their things. Why you continue to prattle on about IC nannies is beyond me. It would seem to me that you simply pay more taxes and have a harder time finding jobs because you want to be the boss. It doesn't make you a higher quality nanny. I bet you're also the "$25-$30/hour" crazy.

Thank you for finally admitting there are in fact some nannies who are independant contractors.

Anonymous wrote:Deb, you really should know better. Every IC charges appropriate fees to cover the additional expenses. They tend to make out quiet well, unless they're as uninformed as you are.