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Anonymous wrote:Not safe and highly irresponsible. If I learned our nanny was doing this, I would let her go. Very poor judgment at the very least.

You know people have been held criminally liable for accidents and other events that occurred when they were functioning with far too little sleep?

And no, I would not hire a mom of a new infant to take care of my children. I want someone who gets enough sleep. This is something I try to screen carefully for in interviews. I also exclude candidates who have a school schedule that keeps them in class until 10pm an hour away from home, as I can do the math on commute time, probable bed time, and morning commute time. My kids' safety means I've passed on good candidates who are simply overextending themselves.

Passing up a person because they are trying to better their lives by going to school? That is so ridiculous. Many people ( not just nannies) can go to school and work with no problem. I work from 8-5 and go to school from 6-9:45. I go to bed at 12. 12-7. That is plenty of sleep.

I'm the person upthread with the 15 month old saying OP's potential sleep deprivation is potentially extremely dangerous. I would have no problem with someone getting 7 hrs of sleep! That seems pretty standard for most people (at least according to a recent thread on the other part of this forum) and obviously plenty of people handle it just fine. I think the other MB is kind of weird that she has an issue with this.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not safe and highly irresponsible. If I learned our nanny was doing this, I would let her go. Very poor judgment at the very least.

You know people have been held criminally liable for accidents and other events that occurred when they were functioning with far too little sleep?

And no, I would not hire a mom of a new infant to take care of my children. I want someone who gets enough sleep. This is something I try to screen carefully for in interviews. I also exclude candidates who have a school schedule that keeps them in class until 10pm an hour away from home, as I can do the math on commute time, probable bed time, and morning commute time. My kids' safety means I've passed on good candidates who are simply overextending themselves.

Passing up a person because they are trying to better their lives by going to school? That is so ridiculous. Many people ( not just nannies) can go to school and work with no problem. I work from 8-5 and go to school from 6-9:45. I go to bed at 12. 12-7. That is plenty of sleep.

Yep, I would pass on you. I have had the experience of working full time plus and I know how exhausted I really was. I'd prefer someone who is focusing on just one job at a time.

Every time someone posts something someone always has something negative to say. People really must not have anything better to do then judge someone.

Anonymous wrote:Not safe and highly irresponsible. If I learned our nanny was doing this, I would let her go. Very poor judgment at the very least.

You know people have been held criminally liable for accidents and other events that occurred when they were functioning with far too little sleep?

And no, I would not hire a mom of a new infant to take care of my children. I want someone who gets enough sleep. This is something I try to screen carefully for in interviews. I also exclude candidates who have a school schedule that keeps them in class until 10pm an hour away from home, as I can do the math on commute time, probable bed time, and morning commute time. My kids' safety means I've passed on good candidates who are simply overextending themselves.

Passing up a person because they are trying to better their lives by going to school? That is so ridiculous. Many people ( not just nannies) can go to school and work with no problem. I work from 8-5 and go to school from 6-9:45. I go to bed at 12. 12-7. That is plenty of sleep.

I'm an MB. I would not be ok with our nanny doing this. You cannot expect to function well (at either job or life in general) with the level of sleep deprivation this will dictate.

It's also extremely unhealthy for you.

The fact that the overnight family expects you not to sleep at all is pretty ridiculous in my opinion. If you can sleep while the baby (or babies) are sleeping then perhaps it would be manageable for a short period. But to stay awake all night and then be the solo caregiver all day?

Nope.

Not safe and highly irresponsible. If I learned our nanny was doing this, I would let her go. Very poor judgment at the very least.

You know people have been held criminally liable for accidents and other events that occurred when they were functioning with far too little sleep?

And no, I would not hire a mom of a new infant to take care of my children. I want someone who gets enough sleep. This is something I try to screen carefully for in interviews. I also exclude candidates who have a school schedule that keeps them in class until 10pm an hour away from home, as I can do the math on commute time, probable bed time, and morning commute time. My kids' safety means I've passed on good candidates who are simply overextending themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:I would negotiate with them on the sleeping aspect. If they want you, they may give in. Agree to cleaning bottles, and folding baby laundry, but no more. You will rest with the monitor nearby with any extra time. Its only 2-3 weekends, so not a huge deal to me. I did plenty of weekends in college with less sleep. You will survive. Don't tell your primary job about it, in case they are like 13:18. Its not their business what you do on your off time, as long as you're there to do your job when you're supposed to be.

Um, it is absolutely your employers business if you are using your time off in a way that compromises your ability to perform during your day job, either due to lack of sleep or simple burnout from working too many hours. Like the prior posters, I would fire a nanny who took an overnight infant care job in a heartbeat. Even if the job didn't require the caretaker to stay up all night, I would not be comfortable with the potential effects of her getting up for feedings all night long. And I say this as the mom of an infant. If you're up throughout the night with an infant, your older child or charge is not getting your best self during the day.

So would you also not hire moms with infants? That's ridiculous. Plenty of people wake for feedings and manage to function. That being said, I posted earlier that I misunderstood OP, and now understanding the proposed schedule, I also agree that what she is considering is too much.

Anonymous wrote:I would negotiate with them on the sleeping aspect. If they want you, they may give in. Agree to cleaning bottles, and folding baby laundry, but no more. You will rest with the monitor nearby with any extra time. Its only 2-3 weekends, so not a huge deal to me. I did plenty of weekends in college with less sleep. You will survive. Don't tell your primary job about it, in case they are like 13:18. Its not their business what you do on your off time, as long as you're there to do your job when you're supposed to be.

Um, it is absolutely your employers business if you are using your time off in a way that compromises your ability to perform during your day job, either due to lack of sleep or simple burnout from working too many hours. Like the prior posters, I would fire a nanny who took an overnight infant care job in a heartbeat. Even if the job didn't require the caretaker to stay up all night, I would not be comfortable with the potential effects of her getting up for feedings all night long. And I say this as the mom of an infant. If you're up throughout the night with an infant, your older child or charge is not getting your best self during the day.

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that you are thinking this could actually work shows a total lack of judgement and intelligence. You have no business taking care of children.

Welcome to the world of parenting.

I have a 15 month old who didn't start STTN until he was 1. That said, when I was beyond exhausted, especially in the beginning, I was not responsible for DS on my own. I had my husband's help as well as family. If I didn't have family, I would have hired someone. Anyone who is not sleeping more than 2 hours a day TOTAL for consecutive days has absolutely no right to be the sole person responsible for children. Nanny or parent, my statement remains the same.

What do you suggest for the majority of parents who aren't as fortunate as you are?

If they are honestly not getting more than 2 hours of sleep a day (we're not talking broken sleep or short naps here and there) but literally only 2 hours of sleep every day, then they need to reach out to every single resource available. Church, friends, neighbors, community, lactation groups, mom groups, etc in order to get some help. It is incredibly dangerous to be that sleep deprived and taking care of a child, let alone a baby. Again, we're not talking about broken sleep or a night here and there of no sleep, or cat naps throughout the day, we are talking about only 2 hrs of sleep daily. Just do a quick google search of what happens to your body and mind when you have lack of sleep.

And I have gladly helped friends and neighbors when they have no other means of help. Even a 2-3 hr nap during the day will help wonders.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fact that you are thinking this could actually work shows a total lack of judgement and intelligence. You have no business taking care of children.

Welcome to the world of parenting.

I have a 15 month old who didn't start STTN until he was 1. That said, when I was beyond exhausted, especially in the beginning, I was not responsible for DS on my own. I had my husband's help as well as family. If I didn't have family, I would have hired someone. Anyone who is not sleeping more than 2 hours a day TOTAL for consecutive days has absolutely no right to be the sole person responsible for children. Nanny or parent, my statement remains the same.

What do you suggest for the majority of parents who aren't as fortunate as you are?

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that you are thinking this could actually work shows a total lack of judgement and intelligence. You have no business taking care of children.

Welcome to the world of parenting.

I have a 15 month old who didn't start STTN until he was 1. That said, when I was beyond exhausted, especially in the beginning, I was not responsible for DS on my own. I had my husband's help as well as family. If I didn't have family, I would have hired someone. Anyone who is not sleeping more than 2 hours a day TOTAL for consecutive days has absolutely no right to be the sole person responsible for children. Nanny or parent, my statement remains the same.

Anonymous wrote:The fact that you are thinking this could actually work shows a total lack of judgement and intelligence. You have no business taking care of children.

Welcome to the world of parenting.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh please. How many lawyers on here have never worked super long hours? Young people go out on the weekends, so I work 9 hours on Friday, go out at 10, get home at 5, sleep until 9, and sometimes head into work on Saturday. Its for 2 or 3 weekends. She will be fine, and you all are melodramatic.

She said she'd be doing this for 2 - 3 weeks, 5 days a week. Start regular job at 7 and work til 5. Go home, sleep/eat for 2 hrs and then go to other job from 9-6am. Go directly from that job to regular job. That is NOT the same as what you described. Sure, if it was 1 day it would be fine. But doing that every single work day for 2-3 weeks is not sustainable and will put her charges in jeopardy due to lack of sleep.

Whoops! I misunderstood the OP. I was reading it as she works 50 hours Mon-Fri, and she was considering a weekend overnight night job. Now that I see the actual schedule, I agree that this is a very bad idea.

Anonymous wrote:Oh please. How many lawyers on here have never worked super long hours? Young people go out on the weekends, so I work 9 hours on Friday, go out at 10, get home at 5, sleep until 9, and sometimes head into work on Saturday. Its for 2 or 3 weekends. She will be fine, and you all are melodramatic.

She said she'd be doing this for 2 - 3 weeks, 5 days a week. Start regular job at 7 and work til 5. Go home, sleep/eat for 2 hrs and then go to other job from 9-6am. Go directly from that job to regular job. That is NOT the same as what you described. Sure, if it was 1 day it would be fine. But doing that every single work day for 2-3 weeks is not sustainable and will put her charges in jeopardy due to lack of sleep.