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Anonymous wrote:Shaking my head at PPs belief that "gypped" has "evolved" from a negative ethic slur - you know, referencing those thieving gypsies - to something more refined and less slur-like, now meaning...cheap or thieving (you know, like those nasty gypsies).

In what way exactly do you think this has evolved? Do you also say "jewed down"? Use "mammy" as a term of endearment for black women?

You make yourself sound ignorant. It remains an ethic slur and you sound like a fool each time you say it.

This really doesn't belong in this forum but...

I hope you don't say "paddywagon" or "ghetto" because... you know... racist roots.

Anonymous wrote:Shaking my head at PPs belief that "gypped" has "evolved" from a negative ethic slur - you know, referencing those thieving gypsies - to something more refined and less slur-like, now meaning...cheap or thieving (you know, like those nasty gypsies).

In what way exactly do you think this has evolved? Do you also say "jewed down"? Use "mammy" as a term of endearment for black women?

You make yourself sound ignorant. It remains an ethic slur and you sound like a fool each time you say it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not that she didn't pay for more. It's just that even though $12 is the rate, that rate is barely enough for a sitter to put gas in her car. Also, it seems like the mom didn't specify time so when she got home after an hr, OP rightfully felt gypped.

Gas is what, $4/gallon? Average car gets at least 20 miles to the gallon? Unless babysitter has an 80 mile round trip, she's making money.

Also - look up gypped. Ethnic slur. You sound either uneducated and/or obnoxious when you use that term.

Anonymous wrote:It's not that she didn't pay for more. It's just that even though $12 is the rate, that rate is barely enough for a sitter to put gas in her car. Also, it seems like the mom didn't specify time so when she got home after an hr, OP rightfully felt gypped.

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Mother here. If you told her your hourly rate was $12 and she asked you to come for one hour, and then paid you $12 - then it seems like she wasn't intentionally being a cheapskate - she was paying you what you asked.

If you want to establish a minimum that's fine - but you have to be clear and direct about your rate. You can't fault someone for not paying you more - just for kicks - than the rate you quoted.

I won't take a stance on whether $12/hr is sufficient or insulting - I'm just saying that it sounds like you got what you asked for in terms of rate. Was she supposed to read your mind?


It's not about mind reading, it's about common decency.

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That's ridiculous. The mother paid the rate that was quoted.

We have tons of sitters available in our neighborhood (Montgomery County) in a range of 10-15 for teenagers and 13-20 for adults. $12 is not an offensive rate - it's what the OP quoted. The mother is not at fault.


Yes, OP bears some responsibility, most of it in fact. That doesn't change the fact that any decent person with a brain knows that there is a minimum you should pay someone for their time. Paying a grown adult $12 for coming out to your house and watching your kids for an hour (a job most sitters would turn down) is cheap. I would give the high schooler down the street a 20 for that. This woman is either stupid, cheap, or both.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. The mother knows my hourly. Typically I would babysit for substantial amounts of time so the minimum rule didn't come up. She asked me to come and I did. No time constraints. Then she only needed me for an hour.

OP, it's a bummer that this happened to you but for future reference...

Always have a minimum. Mine is 3 hours which equals $60. I live in a rural area and usually drive 20-30 minutes when I take babysitting jobs so it's really not worth my time if I were to get paid less than $60 (3 hours worth). I work for one family that often come home from "date night" before 3 hours. I have no idea why they can't find things to do for 3 hours (they only go out once per month) but that's their business I guess. Point is, they pay me $60.

This same family is funny in that if they go over 3 hours they pay to the minute which I've always found weird. One time DB was paying me and needed like $1.20 in change. I didn't have it on me but mentioned that I might have bridge toll change in my car. He actually had me walk to my car to get the $1.25 (probably took at least five minutes which I could have been nitpicky about and asked him to pay me for. I couldn't do it with a straight face though). Another time he over paid me by about $3. I noticed when I got home but figured it was a tip. Next time I sat for them he mentioned it and took it out of that day's bill which was very large since I worked a whole day. I don't mind at all I just find it kinda funny and weird.

Anonymous wrote:Op here. The mother knows my hourly. Typically I would babysit for substantial amounts of time so the minimum rule didn't come up. She asked me to come and I did. No time constraints. Then she only needed me for an hour.

Anonymous wrote:I used to babysit. A lot. I would NEVER have considered someone "cheap" because they paid me for the time I worked. If it's not worth your time, don't take the job. But you come off as an absurdly entitled little snot if you expect payment beyond the work you've done.

Set a minimum if you feel like it's a waste to earn some, but apparently not enough, money. But quit your bitching about someone being cheap just because you were paid for the time you worked, and not compensated for your vision of how inconvenienced you were in the course if earning money.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mother here. If you told her your hourly rate was $12 and she asked you to come for one hour, and then paid you $12 - then it seems like she wasn't intentionally being a cheapskate - she was paying you what you asked.

If you want to establish a minimum that's fine - but you have to be clear and direct about your rate. You can't fault someone for not paying you more - just for kicks - than the rate you quoted.

I won't take a stance on whether $12/hr is sufficient or insulting - I'm just saying that it sounds like you got what you asked for in terms of rate. Was she supposed to read your mind?

It's not about mind reading, it's about common decency.

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That's ridiculous. The mother paid the rate that was quoted.

We have tons of sitters available in our neighborhood (Montgomery County) in a range of 10-15 for teenagers and 13-20 for adults. $12 is not an offensive rate - it's what the OP quoted. The mother is not at fault.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mother here. If you told her your hourly rate was $12 and she asked you to come for one hour, and then paid you $12 - then it seems like she wasn't intentionally being a cheapskate - she was paying you what you asked.

If you want to establish a minimum that's fine - but you have to be clear and direct about your rate. You can't fault someone for not paying you more - just for kicks - than the rate you quoted.

I won't take a stance on whether $12/hr is sufficient or insulting - I'm just saying that it sounds like you got what you asked for in terms of rate. Was she supposed to read your mind?

It's not about mind reading, it's about common decency.