Anonymous
02/27/2014 12:39
Subject: Paid holidays?
Anonymous wrote:If it's a 2.5 hr/day position and you pay 17/hour the cost of those benefits (10 Days vacation/sick, 10 fed holidays) is over 8%. So an extra 850 (10,200 for hours worked, 850 for hours not worked) a year or the equivalent of paying 18.41 for actual hours worked.
If child care is a fixed expense, then it doesn't suddenly cost you more to continue paying what you'd always pay for a holiday. Its only more expensive in the sense that you aren't "saving" on the holidays and vacation. To me, this seems like a very small price to pay for continuous and reliable care. Your job is then desirable enough to attract candidates who can keep their word, who know how to be professional, who aren't going to blow off a 2hr morning gig (that they don't really need) because they had a long night. You probably spend more than that on Starbucks in a year. Its not hard to do, and it makes a huge difference.
Anonymous
02/27/2014 12:28
Subject: Paid holidays?
If it's a 2.5 hr/day position and you pay 17/hour the cost of those benefits (10 Days vacation/sick, 10 fed holidays) is over 8%. So an extra 850 (10,200 for hours worked, 850 for hours not worked) a year or the equivalent of paying 18.41 for actual hours worked.
Anonymous
02/26/2014 16:38
Subject: Paid holidays?
Anonymous wrote:I'm not the PP you are responding to you, 15:25, but I will try to explain to you why the benefit package in Job 2 is not normally offered to PT employees.
It's too expensive.
Simple as that. If a very PT nanny wants paid holidays and PTO, I will not be paying her $17/hr. I will need that money to pay for her two week paid vacation. Face it, a 2.5/hr day nanny isn't a nanny, especially at 6am. She's a sitter.
And for the continuity of care issue, that's funny. A 6am-8:30am is hardly a lasting, important figure in a kid's life. She's the sitter who gets breakfast and gets the kids to school.
I know you nannies are very dedicated to advancing your own importance, but, really, you're overplaying your hand on this one.
I don't understand how its expensive. You're paying for an hour or two here and there, that you otherwise would have been paying. Where is the expense? $17-$34/holiday is going to break you?
Anonymous
02/26/2014 16:35
Subject: Paid holidays?
I'm not the PP you are responding to you, 15:25, but I will try to explain to you why the benefit package in Job 2 is not normally offered to PT employees.
It's too expensive.
Simple as that. If a very PT nanny wants paid holidays and PTO, I will not be paying her $17/hr. I will need that money to pay for her two week paid vacation. Face it, a 2.5/hr day nanny isn't a nanny, especially at 6am. She's a sitter.
And for the continuity of care issue, that's funny. A 6am-8:30am is hardly a lasting, important figure in a kid's life. She's the sitter who gets breakfast and gets the kids to school.
I know you nannies are very dedicated to advancing your own importance, but, really, you're overplaying your hand on this one.
It's too expensive.
Simple as that. If a very PT nanny wants paid holidays and PTO, I will not be paying her $17/hr. I will need that money to pay for her two week paid vacation. Face it, a 2.5/hr day nanny isn't a nanny, especially at 6am. She's a sitter.
And for the continuity of care issue, that's funny. A 6am-8:30am is hardly a lasting, important figure in a kid's life. She's the sitter who gets breakfast and gets the kids to school.
I know you nannies are very dedicated to advancing your own importance, but, really, you're overplaying your hand on this one.
Anonymous
02/26/2014 15:25
Subject: Re:Paid holidays?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Job 1
6:00-8:30am M-F
$17/hour + mileage reimbursement
Job 2
6:00-8:30am M-F
$17/hour + mileage reimbursement
7 paid Federal holidays
5-10 days paid vacation
Which one do I choose......hmmmmm?
Well, of course you would take Job 2 and you would be smart to do that.
But, there aren't very many job 2s out there, if any. Think of how foolish an employer would be to offer 17 paid days off for a 2.5 hour position.
Isn't happening.
You mean a total of 42.5 hours of paid time off total for the entire year, the majority of which you will also have off and won't need care? That's so hard to do? That's what you want us to believe? It may not happen often, but it does happen I assure you. And those who offer it have their pick of caregivers and they aren't scrambling for a new one every couple of months because the old one got fed up/doesn't need the money/doesn't think its worth it/wants to take a vacation/finds a better job.
Oh please. I did two jobs like this in college (morning and afternoon) and I was with them for all 4 years even though I didn't get PTO, vacations, or mileage reimbursement.
So your justification for not being stingy, is that people were stingy towards you? I've asked before and no one answered, what is the reason for not offering benefits to part time employees? If the answer is "that's how it was for me" do you honestly think that's a good reason?
Anonymous
02/26/2014 15:07
Subject: Paid holidays?
Anonymous wrote:I worked these kinds of jobs in college. I always asked for guaranteed weekly hours, regardless of the family's holiday schedule or personal plans. But I did not ask for any PTO that I could use at my discretion, so basically no paid sick days, or if I was going away it was unpaid. This always felt like a fair compromise to me, and most families were pretty willing.
This makes sense to me too.
Anonymous
02/25/2014 22:07
Subject: Re:Paid holidays?
Anonymous wrote:Job 1
6:00-8:30am M-F
$17/hour + mileage reimbursement
Job 2
6:00-8:30am M-F
$17/hour + mileage reimbursement
7 paid Federal holidays
5-10 days paid vacation
Which one do I choose......hmmmmm?
Well, of course you would take Job 2 and you would be smart to do that.
But, there aren't very many job 2s out there, if any. Think of how foolish an employer would be to offer 17 paid days off for a 2.5 hour position.
Isn't happening.
I am not sure where you are getting your information from, but as someone who has worked in the industry for a long time (not a nanny), I can tell you that there are many families who offer the "job 2" situation. They are families who want continuity of care.
If you don't mind (possibly) switching caregivers every semester, then no, you definitely don't need to offer it.
Anonymous
02/25/2014 20:05
Subject: Re:Paid holidays?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Job 1
6:00-8:30am M-F
$17/hour + mileage reimbursement
Job 2
6:00-8:30am M-F
$17/hour + mileage reimbursement
7 paid Federal holidays
5-10 days paid vacation
Which one do I choose......hmmmmm?
Well, of course you would take Job 2 and you would be smart to do that.
But, there aren't very many job 2s out there, if any. Think of how foolish an employer would be to offer 17 paid days off for a 2.5 hour position.
Isn't happening.
You mean a total of 42.5 hours of paid time off total for the entire year, the majority of which you will also have off and won't need care? That's so hard to do? That's what you want us to believe? It may not happen often, but it does happen I assure you. And those who offer it have their pick of caregivers and they aren't scrambling for a new one every couple of months because the old one got fed up/doesn't need the money/doesn't think its worth it/wants to take a vacation/finds a better job.
Oh please. I did two jobs like this in college (morning and afternoon) and I was with them for all 4 years even though I didn't get PTO, vacations, or mileage reimbursement.
Anonymous
02/25/2014 19:04
Subject: Re:Paid holidays?
Anonymous wrote:Job 1
6:00-8:30am M-F
$17/hour + mileage reimbursement
Job 2
6:00-8:30am M-F
$17/hour + mileage reimbursement
7 paid Federal holidays
5-10 days paid vacation
Which one do I choose......hmmmmm?
Well, of course you would take Job 2 and you would be smart to do that.
But, there aren't very many job 2s out there, if any. Think of how foolish an employer would be to offer 17 paid days off for a 2.5 hour position.
Isn't happening.
You mean a total of 42.5 hours of paid time off total for the entire year, the majority of which you will also have off and won't need care? That's so hard to do? That's what you want us to believe? It may not happen often, but it does happen I assure you. And those who offer it have their pick of caregivers and they aren't scrambling for a new one every couple of months because the old one got fed up/doesn't need the money/doesn't think its worth it/wants to take a vacation/finds a better job.
Anonymous
02/25/2014 18:34
Subject: Re:Paid holidays?
Job 1
6:00-8:30am M-F
$17/hour + mileage reimbursement
Job 2
6:00-8:30am M-F
$17/hour + mileage reimbursement
7 paid Federal holidays
5-10 days paid vacation
Which one do I choose......hmmmmm?
Well, of course you would take Job 2 and you would be smart to do that.
But, there aren't very many job 2s out there, if any. Think of how foolish an employer would be to offer 17 paid days off for a 2.5 hour position.
Isn't happening.
Anonymous
02/25/2014 15:42
Subject: Paid holidays?
I worked these kinds of jobs in college. I always asked for guaranteed weekly hours, regardless of the family's holiday schedule or personal plans. But I did not ask for any PTO that I could use at my discretion, so basically no paid sick days, or if I was going away it was unpaid. This always felt like a fair compromise to me, and most families were pretty willing.
Anonymous
02/25/2014 13:46
Subject: Paid holidays?
Oops, should have mentioned at 13:45 I'm the OP.
Anonymous
02/25/2014 13:45
Subject: Paid holidays?
My question arises because I have myself been an hourly worker for several years and was never paid for a minute I wasn't actually there working, so I wasn't sure what the protocol was for this type of situation. Our hourly pay is quite generous, according to what I've read on this board, but of course the number of hours are few.
Thanks for everyone's insight!
Thanks for everyone's insight!
Anonymous
02/25/2014 13:33
Subject: Paid holidays?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Job 1
6:00-8:30am M-F
$17/hour + mileage reimbursement
Job 2
6:00-8:30am M-F
$17/hour + mileage reimbursement
7 paid Federal holidays
5-10 days paid vacation
Which one do I choose......hmmmmm?
There are not many Job 2s out there.
There are actually a great deal of jobs that fall under the category of Job 2.
Anonymous
02/25/2014 12:51
Subject: Paid holidays?
Anonymous wrote:Job 1
6:00-8:30am M-F
$17/hour + mileage reimbursement
Job 2
6:00-8:30am M-F
$17/hour + mileage reimbursement
7 paid Federal holidays
5-10 days paid vacation
Which one do I choose......hmmmmm?
There are not many Job 2s out there.