Anonymous
Post 01/23/2014 11:14     Subject: Coming home early to babysitter
One of my regular families always gives me a time and are home sometime around that, a few minutes early or a few minutes late. I always get paid for each started half hour, so if they were out for 3 hours and 5 minutes, I get paid for three and a half hours. I have a minimum of three hours.

The other family usually goes out with a 'feel free to nap on the couch once the kids are in bed, we'll probably be late'. They usually phone at some point to let me know what time to book the taxi for.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2014 17:11     Subject: Coming home early to babysitter
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When I babysit, it is nice to have a rough idea of how long the parents will be out, but it isn't required.


There is a big difference between 12:30 and 2 am.
I'm still semi-awake at 12:30. At 2 am, I can barely keep my eyes open.
Driving home at that hour is dangerous when you're tired.
If you know it's going to be a late night, tell me when you book me so I can be prepared and so I can decline if I like.
Nothing will ruin a decent working relationship faster than feeling taken advantage of.


It's not taking advantage of someone to hire them to babysit for the night and staying out late. You get paid for each hour you're there. Being taken advantage of would be if I said I will pay you $80 to work from 6-10pm and then came home at 1am and said I wasn't paying you any more than $80 because that's what you agreed to.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2014 16:59     Subject: Coming home early to babysitter
Just going home to sleep isn't a big deal to pp however you should have a curfew because you decided to have your darling snowflakes. I hope your husband is sane and your sitters teach those poor babies manners so they aren't like you
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2014 16:16     Subject: Coming home early to babysitter
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When I babysit, it is nice to have a rough idea of how long the parents will be out, but it isn't required.


There is a big difference between 12:30 and 2 am.
I'm still semi-awake at 12:30. At 2 am, I can barely keep my eyes open.
Driving home at that hour is dangerous when you're tired.
If you know it's going to be a late night, tell me when you book me so I can be prepared and so I can decline if I like.
Nothing will ruin a decent working relationship faster than feeling taken advantage of.


You are being paid for a job. How is it being taken advantage of if they come home a bit later than expected? Maybe if they say they will be home at 10pm and don't come home until 10am the following morning. I guess I should have clarified my statement a bit. It is nice to have a rough idea of how long the parents will be out, but I don't require them to be home on the dot of when they said they would be.


Better question. How is it not being taken advantage of if they come home later than expexted?
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2014 16:00     Subject: Coming home early to babysitter
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When I babysit, it is nice to have a rough idea of how long the parents will be out, but it isn't required.


There is a big difference between 12:30 and 2 am.
I'm still semi-awake at 12:30. At 2 am, I can barely keep my eyes open.
Driving home at that hour is dangerous when you're tired.
If you know it's going to be a late night, tell me when you book me so I can be prepared and so I can decline if I like.
Nothing will ruin a decent working relationship faster than feeling taken advantage of.


You are being paid for a job. How is it being taken advantage of if they come home a bit later than expected? Maybe if they say they will be home at 10pm and don't come home until 10am the following morning. I guess I should have clarified my statement a bit. It is nice to have a rough idea of how long the parents will be out, but I don't require them to be home on the dot of when they said they would be.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2014 15:26     Subject: Coming home early to babysitter
Anonymous wrote:I just say how much I pay per hour and when to start. I don't give an end time because I'm an adult and don't have a curfew.

It would really help you here, if you stopped behaving like an entitled adolescent brat.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2014 15:16     Subject: Coming home early to babysitter
It does make a difference if you're back at 1230 or 2 if the sitter has plans the next morning. Also, I hope you're not one of those parents that gets pissy if your sitter naps after the kids are sleep. Regardless, you sound like someone I would sit for only once. Being an adult doesn't mean you're entitled to disrespect others.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2014 15:12     Subject: Coming home early to babysitter
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just say how much I pay per hour and when to start. I don't give an end time because I'm an adult and don't have a curfew.


Are you serious? I'm a mom and I get that you don't want to be tied down to an arrival time, but you can't give someone the basic courtesy of giving them a ballpark of when you'll be home? The difference between coming home at 9:30pm and 1:00am is huge to someone waiting.


Of course I'm serious. If a babysitter is too stupid to calculate roughly how long we'll be gone when we say we're going out for drinks before an 8pm dinner reservation and then to a movie, then she's too stupid to be working for us. As an adult, I will NOT be tied down to when I have to come home.

So when you don't come home until 7 am the next morning and I've been up worried all night and have probably called cps for child abandonment you won't be upset. Be ause you WON'T be tied down to a time.


Right, because I'm not ridiculous. Do a little addition in your brain based on what I've said we're doing, and figure out a rough estimate. If something comes up, like we run into friends and get invited to a wine bar, then I let the babysitter know. All I'm saying is I won't have someone meeting me at the door with a disapproving glare at 1:15 am because I said I'd be home around 12:30.


That would be the last time I would babysit for you.
If you tell the sitter an end time, being 45 minutes late is unacceptable.
I don't give a damn if you don't want me giving you a disapproving look. Come home later than you told me and I'll tell you to your face that I don't like it.
You are nasty.


But that's my whole point - I DON'T give my sitter an end time, because I don't want to have to adhere to a freaking curfew as an adult. WTF are you doing - a second babysitting gig beginning at 2am? No! You're just going home and going to sleep. So it shouldn't matter to you if I get home at 12:30 or 2am.


Yikes. Crossing fingers this is a troll. Really worked up about something that should be a non-issue - giving a ballpark arrival time and communicating if it changes.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2014 15:09     Subject: Coming home early to babysitter
Anonymous wrote:When I babysit, it is nice to have a rough idea of how long the parents will be out, but it isn't required.


There is a big difference between 12:30 and 2 am.
I'm still semi-awake at 12:30. At 2 am, I can barely keep my eyes open.
Driving home at that hour is dangerous when you're tired.
If you know it's going to be a late night, tell me when you book me so I can be prepared and so I can decline if I like.
Nothing will ruin a decent working relationship faster than feeling taken advantage of.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2014 15:06     Subject: Coming home early to babysitter
*stop
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2014 15:06     Subject: Coming home early to babysitter
Can we stope fighting with this insane poster? She's a rude self important troll.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2014 14:57     Subject: Coming home early to babysitter
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just say how much I pay per hour and when to start. I don't give an end time because I'm an adult and don't have a curfew.


Are you serious? I'm a mom and I get that you don't want to be tied down to an arrival time, but you can't give someone the basic courtesy of giving them a ballpark of when you'll be home? The difference between coming home at 9:30pm and 1:00am is huge to someone waiting.


Of course I'm serious. If a babysitter is too stupid to calculate roughly how long we'll be gone when we say we're going out for drinks before an 8pm dinner reservation and then to a movie, then she's too stupid to be working for us. As an adult, I will NOT be tied down to when I have to come home.

So when you don't come home until 7 am the next morning and I've been up worried all night and have probably called cps for child abandonment you won't be upset. Be ause you WON'T be tied down to a time.


Right, because I'm not ridiculous. Do a little addition in your brain based on what I've said we're doing, and figure out a rough estimate. If something comes up, like we run into friends and get invited to a wine bar, then I let the babysitter know. All I'm saying is I won't have someone meeting me at the door with a disapproving glare at 1:15 am because I said I'd be home around 12:30.


That would be the last time I would babysit for you.
If you tell the sitter an end time, being 45 minutes late is unacceptable.
I don't give a damn if you don't want me giving you a disapproving look. Come home later than you told me and I'll tell you to your face that I don't like it.
You are nasty.


But that's my whole point - I DON'T give my sitter an end time, because I don't want to have to adhere to a freaking curfew as an adult. WTF are you doing - a second babysitting gig beginning at 2am? No! You're just going home and going to sleep. So it shouldn't matter to you if I get home at 12:30 or 2am.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2014 14:49     Subject: Coming home early to babysitter
When I babysit, it is nice to have a rough idea of how long the parents will be out, but it isn't required.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2014 14:29     Subject: Coming home early to babysitter
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just say how much I pay per hour and when to start. I don't give an end time because I'm an adult and don't have a curfew.


Are you serious? I'm a mom and I get that you don't want to be tied down to an arrival time, but you can't give someone the basic courtesy of giving them a ballpark of when you'll be home? The difference between coming home at 9:30pm and 1:00am is huge to someone waiting.


Of course I'm serious. If a babysitter is too stupid to calculate roughly how long we'll be gone when we say we're going out for drinks before an 8pm dinner reservation and then to a movie, then she's too stupid to be working for us. As an adult, I will NOT be tied down to when I have to come home.

So when you don't come home until 7 am the next morning and I've been up worried all night and have probably called cps for child abandonment you won't be upset. Be ause you WON'T be tied down to a time.


Right, because I'm not ridiculous. Do a little addition in your brain based on what I've said we're doing, and figure out a rough estimate. If something comes up, like we run into friends and get invited to a wine bar, then I let the babysitter know. All I'm saying is I won't have someone meeting me at the door with a disapproving glare at 1:15 am because I said I'd be home around 12:30.


That would be the last time I would babysit for you.
If you tell the sitter an end time, being 45 minutes late is unacceptable.
I don't give a damn if you don't want me giving you a disapproving look. Come home later than you told me and I'll tell you to your face that I don't like it.
You are nasty.


So tone aside, I think you've just proved nasty PP's point. She doesn't know exactly when she'll be home, so she doesn't want to say 12:30pm and then have to cut the night and worry about being home just then. She doesn't want 45 additional minutes to be considered "late". I think this is pretty normal, except for her "I'm better than you" tone. If I say we're going out to dinner and a movie, I'll say "we expect to be home at about midnight" and then if it looks like it might be a little later, I'll text to make sure it's ok with the sitter. If my sitter definitely needs to leave at a particular time, I'd hope we could just communicate that. Why not just do that?


This is how bitter angry "crazy" nannies and sitters are born. From dealing with parents like nasty PP. what you suggested would be perfectly fine. An estimate, so I have an idea what the rest of my night will look like, and a courtesy text if plans change. I would make clear if I needed a hard end time. Mutual respect isn't that difficult a concept. You are not better than me, your time is not more valuable, and we are both adults, with lives and without a curfew.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2014 14:24     Subject: Coming home early to babysitter
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just say how much I pay per hour and when to start. I don't give an end time because I'm an adult and don't have a curfew.


Are you serious? I'm a mom and I get that you don't want to be tied down to an arrival time, but you can't give someone the basic courtesy of giving them a ballpark of when you'll be home? The difference between coming home at 9:30pm and 1:00am is huge to someone waiting.


Of course I'm serious. If a babysitter is too stupid to calculate roughly how long we'll be gone when we say we're going out for drinks before an 8pm dinner reservation and then to a movie, then she's too stupid to be working for us. As an adult, I will NOT be tied down to when I have to come home.

So when you don't come home until 7 am the next morning and I've been up worried all night and have probably called cps for child abandonment you won't be upset. Be ause you WON'T be tied down to a time.


Right, because I'm not ridiculous. Do a little addition in your brain based on what I've said we're doing, and figure out a rough estimate. If something comes up, like we run into friends and get invited to a wine bar, then I let the babysitter know. All I'm saying is I won't have someone meeting me at the door with a disapproving glare at 1:15 am because I said I'd be home around 12:30.


That would be the last time I would babysit for you.
If you tell the sitter an end time, being 45 minutes late is unacceptable.
I don't give a damn if you don't want me giving you a disapproving look. Come home later than you told me and I'll tell you to your face that I don't like it.
You are nasty.


So tone aside, I think you've just proved nasty PP's point. She doesn't know exactly when she'll be home, so she doesn't want to say 12:30pm and then have to cut the night and worry about being home just then. She doesn't want 45 additional minutes to be considered "late". I think this is pretty normal, except for her "I'm better than you" tone. If I say we're going out to dinner and a movie, I'll say "we expect to be home at about midnight" and then if it looks like it might be a little later, I'll text to make sure it's ok with the sitter. If my sitter definitely needs to leave at a particular time, I'd hope we could just communicate that. Why not just do that?