Anonymous
01/22/2014 11:01
Subject: Re:When nanny's employer gets a snow day....
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:When I get a snow day at work all that means is that I can do my computer work from home. None of my deadlines move. If nanny does not come then I end up staying up late (sometimes through the morning) finishing up projects. I would be happy to give the nanny a day of on the snow day if she offers to come on the weekend when it is safe and let me finish my work. If it's all just about nanny's safety then it should work. It's just the nannies I came across would jump on not having to come in if it snows a little bit but noone offers to make up the hours.
I am an employer. I do not really get snow days though. I just get the opportunity to finish my work from home. If nanny gets the snow means she gets to finish the work on a different day like I am then I am fine it
You are insane.
Do you even have a nanny?
No, but I am a nanny and I would resent you for making me make up snow days. Let's just hope your nanny doesn't feel the same way.
Our nanny been with us for three years. She gets a lot of paid days of as our family travels a lot. 6-7 weeks paid vacation make up for possible resentment I think
My only point is that nannies want the same treatment as office workers. Office workers like me do not just get the snow days of. My work does not stop. Why should the nanny's?
Just because your manager is an asshat doesn't mean you have to be one to your nanny.
It's a matter of safety. Bottom line: it is not safe to drive.
How exactly do nannies (you're generalizing BTW) want to be treated like office workers?
Fair pay, benefits...?
You are right, I am generalizing. I saw a lot of threads on this forum with nannies expressing they want the same treatment as office workers. I am all in support of that. My nanny gets paid time of (a lot of it) , I pay her health insurance, give her stipend or her taxes, entirely cover her transportation costs, always pay OT etc I extend all the benefits I have to my nanny. I gave her more than 1/2 on my bonus last year. But I do expect her to share some of my responsibilities in return. I think it is only fair.
I get what you're saying, and I agree to an extent, but I think your expectation ought to be that your nanny handle HER responsibilities in return, not do whatever you want/need to make it possible for you to handle yours. That's not her job. Her job is to care for your kids within the hours of Y-Z, with a reasonable expectation that she will not be expected to report when travel is dangerous. Making up hours on the weekends because YOU have responsibilities is not her job. Childcare issues and having to make up work on a snow day are tough, we get it. Your nanny doesnt have job where she has deadlines to meet, or where her work comes home with her. You can't expect her to shoulder that for you. Taking care of your children is first and foremost your job. Meeting your deadlines at work is your job. Making sure all of that happens and that you don't have to stay up late or whatever is not your nanny's job. It is to be available from Y-Z, barring uncontrollable circumstances (snow, earthquakes, hurricanes, etc).
I can see what you are saying as well. And thanks for the sane reply. You are right that these are my kids and my responsibilities. I would also never expect the nanny or anyone to risk their life, put themselves in danger, etc. Personally, I do not think that couple of inches of snow is the same as an earthquake. I went to the office yesterday and was just fine. Nevertheless, I arrange transportation for our non-driving nanny on such days including yesterday. I guess for me personally it comes down to the fact that if the nanny is gonna take every possible time off and her responsibility is to just be there Y-Z I would pay her accordingly for that. If someone is willing to understand my circumstances and help or our family to run smoothly their compensation will be adjusted accordingly. Our nanny been with us for a while. She never requested a snow day. I guess we are a good match with her. I imagine she gets paid way more than most nannies on this forum.
Anonymous
01/22/2014 10:53
Subject: Re:When nanny's employer gets a snow day....
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:When I get a snow day at work all that means is that I can do my computer work from home. None of my deadlines move. If nanny does not come then I end up staying up late (sometimes through the morning) finishing up projects. I would be happy to give the nanny a day of on the snow day if she offers to come on the weekend when it is safe and let me finish my work. If it's all just about nanny's safety then it should work. It's just the nannies I came across would jump on not having to come in if it snows a little bit but noone offers to make up the hours.
I am an employer. I do not really get snow days though. I just get the opportunity to finish my work from home. If nanny gets the snow means she gets to finish the work on a different day like I am then I am fine it
You are insane.
Do you even have a nanny?
No, but I am a nanny and I would resent you for making me make up snow days. Let's just hope your nanny doesn't feel the same way.
Our nanny been with us for three years. She gets a lot of paid days of as our family travels a lot. 6-7 weeks paid vacation make up for possible resentment I think
My only point is that nannies want the same treatment as office workers. Office workers like me do not just get the snow days of. My work does not stop. Why should the nanny's?
Just because your manager is an asshat doesn't mean you have to be one to your nanny.
It's a matter of safety. Bottom line: it is not safe to drive.
How exactly do nannies (you're generalizing BTW) want to be treated like office workers?
Fair pay, benefits...?
You are right, I am generalizing. I saw a lot of threads on this forum with nannies expressing they want the same treatment as office workers. I am all in support of that. My nanny gets paid time of (a lot of it) , I pay her health insurance, give her stipend or her taxes, entirely cover her transportation costs, always pay OT etc I extend all the benefits I have to my nanny. I gave her more than 1/2 on my bonus last year. But I do expect her to share some of my responsibilities in return. I think it is only fair.
They are your responsibilities, not the nanny's.
On days when it is safe to drive to work (without the threat of sliding off of the road into a tree) nannies do share in the responsibilty of caring for your children. It is irresponsible to expect her to risk her life so you can work from home. Snow days happen about 2-3x per year. This isn't even something that happens all that often.
Let me keep the responsibilities and the benefits I receive for handling those. Stay at home when it snows an inch. But please do not complain about not getting the extra perks I do get. You are right, you are just an hourly employee
Don't offer benefits and them tell me how much your nanny misses work.
Anonymous
01/22/2014 10:41
Subject: Re:When nanny's employer gets a snow day....
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:When I get a snow day at work all that means is that I can do my computer work from home. None of my deadlines move. If nanny does not come then I end up staying up late (sometimes through the morning) finishing up projects. I would be happy to give the nanny a day of on the snow day if she offers to come on the weekend when it is safe and let me finish my work. If it's all just about nanny's safety then it should work. It's just the nannies I came across would jump on not having to come in if it snows a little bit but noone offers to make up the hours.
I am an employer. I do not really get snow days though. I just get the opportunity to finish my work from home. If nanny gets the snow means she gets to finish the work on a different day like I am then I am fine it
You are insane.
Do you even have a nanny?
No, but I am a nanny and I would resent you for making me make up snow days. Let's just hope your nanny doesn't feel the same way.
Our nanny been with us for three years. She gets a lot of paid days of as our family travels a lot. 6-7 weeks paid vacation make up for possible resentment I think
My only point is that nannies want the same treatment as office workers. Office workers like me do not just get the snow days of. My work does not stop. Why should the nanny's?
Just because your manager is an asshat doesn't mean you have to be one to your nanny.
It's a matter of safety. Bottom line: it is not safe to drive.
How exactly do nannies (you're generalizing BTW) want to be treated like office workers?
Fair pay, benefits...?
You are right, I am generalizing. I saw a lot of threads on this forum with nannies expressing they want the same treatment as office workers. I am all in support of that. My nanny gets paid time of (a lot of it) , I pay her health insurance, give her stipend or her taxes, entirely cover her transportation costs, always pay OT etc I extend all the benefits I have to my nanny. I gave her more than 1/2 on my bonus last year. But I do expect her to share some of my responsibilities in return. I think it is only fair.
They are your responsibilities, not the nanny's.
On days when it is safe to drive to work (without the threat of sliding off of the road into a tree) nannies do share in the responsibilty of caring for your children. It is irresponsible to expect her to risk her life so you can work from home. Snow days happen about 2-3x per year. This isn't even something that happens all that often.
Let me keep the responsibilities and the benefits I receive for handling those. Stay at home when it snows an inch. But please do not complain about not getting the extra perks I do get. You are right, you are just an hourly employee
Anonymous
01/22/2014 10:37
Subject: Re:When nanny's employer gets a snow day....
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:When I get a snow day at work all that means is that I can do my computer work from home. None of my deadlines move. If nanny does not come then I end up staying up late (sometimes through the morning) finishing up projects. I would be happy to give the nanny a day of on the snow day if she offers to come on the weekend when it is safe and let me finish my work. If it's all just about nanny's safety then it should work. It's just the nannies I came across would jump on not having to come in if it snows a little bit but noone offers to make up the hours.
I am an employer. I do not really get snow days though. I just get the opportunity to finish my work from home. If nanny gets the snow means she gets to finish the work on a different day like I am then I am fine it
You are insane.
Do you even have a nanny?
No, but I am a nanny and I would resent you for making me make up snow days. Let's just hope your nanny doesn't feel the same way.
Our nanny been with us for three years. She gets a lot of paid days of as our family travels a lot. 6-7 weeks paid vacation make up for possible resentment I think
My only point is that nannies want the same treatment as office workers. Office workers like me do not just get the snow days of. My work does not stop. Why should the nanny's?
Just because your manager is an asshat doesn't mean you have to be one to your nanny.
It's a matter of safety. Bottom line: it is not safe to drive.
How exactly do nannies (you're generalizing BTW) want to be treated like office workers?
Fair pay, benefits...?
You are right, I am generalizing. I saw a lot of threads on this forum with nannies expressing they want the same treatment as office workers. I am all in support of that. My nanny gets paid time of (a lot of it) , I pay her health insurance, give her stipend or her taxes, entirely cover her transportation costs, always pay OT etc I extend all the benefits I have to my nanny. I gave her more than 1/2 on my bonus last year. But I do expect her to share some of my responsibilities in return. I think it is only fair.
I get what you're saying, and I agree to an extent, but I think your expectation ought to be that your nanny handle HER responsibilities in return, not do whatever you want/need to make it possible for you to handle yours. That's not her job. Her job is to care for your kids within the hours of Y-Z, with a reasonable expectation that she will not be expected to report when travel is dangerous. Making up hours on the weekends because YOU have responsibilities is not her job. Childcare issues and having to make up work on a snow day are tough, we get it. Your nanny doesnt have job where she has deadlines to meet, or where her work comes home with her. You can't expect her to shoulder that for you. Taking care of your children is first and foremost your job. Meeting your deadlines at work is your job. Making sure all of that happens and that you don't have to stay up late or whatever is not your nanny's job. It is to be available from Y-Z, barring uncontrollable circumstances (snow, earthquakes, hurricanes, etc).
Anonymous
01/22/2014 10:36
Subject: When nanny's employer gets a snow day....
to OP's question - no. an MB's employer might make a decision based on entirely different factors such as long drives of workers, bus routes (if a teacher), or the fact that cancelling "work" still means people work from home all day so it's 80% as efficient. Those same reasons do not necessarily match a nanny's situation. My nanny happens to live right on a main road and we are just off of one in a neighborhood that gets plowed very well. You shouldn't speed today, but it's totally safe. My work followed fed schedule but even if it did not, i would have expected her to come in at least for a half day in the afternoon since roads surely would be fine by then. Because just like the vast majority of office worker MBs - all my colleagues keep working and my work load is all still there so it's not as if it's a freebie day for most of us.
Anonymous
01/22/2014 10:29
Subject: Re:When nanny's employer gets a snow day....
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:When I get a snow day at work all that means is that I can do my computer work from home. None of my deadlines move. If nanny does not come then I end up staying up late (sometimes through the morning) finishing up projects. I would be happy to give the nanny a day of on the snow day if she offers to come on the weekend when it is safe and let me finish my work. If it's all just about nanny's safety then it should work. It's just the nannies I came across would jump on not having to come in if it snows a little bit but noone offers to make up the hours.
I am an employer. I do not really get snow days though. I just get the opportunity to finish my work from home. If nanny gets the snow means she gets to finish the work on a different day like I am then I am fine it
You are insane.
Do you even have a nanny?
No, but I am a nanny and I would resent you for making me make up snow days. Let's just hope your nanny doesn't feel the same way.
Our nanny been with us for three years. She gets a lot of paid days of as our family travels a lot. 6-7 weeks paid vacation make up for possible resentment I think
My only point is that nannies want the same treatment as office workers. Office workers like me do not just get the snow days of. My work does not stop. Why should the nanny's?
Just because your manager is an asshat doesn't mean you have to be one to your nanny.
It's a matter of safety. Bottom line: it is not safe to drive.
How exactly do nannies (you're generalizing BTW) want to be treated like office workers?
Fair pay, benefits...?
You are right, I am generalizing. I saw a lot of threads on this forum with nannies expressing they want the same treatment as office workers. I am all in support of that. My nanny gets paid time of (a lot of it) , I pay her health insurance, give her stipend or her taxes, entirely cover her transportation costs, always pay OT etc I extend all the benefits I have to my nanny. I gave her more than 1/2 on my bonus last year. But I do expect her to share some of my responsibilities in return. I think it is only fair.
They are your responsibilities, not the nanny's.
On days when it is safe to drive to work (without the threat of sliding off of the road into a tree) nannies do share in the responsibilty of caring for your children. It is irresponsible to expect her to risk her life so you can work from home. Snow days happen about 2-3x per year. This isn't even something that happens all that often.
Anonymous
01/22/2014 10:27
Subject: When nanny's employer gets a snow day....
Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that so many MBs think nannies should cook, clean and run errands so they can "focus on the children" when they're off work but want the nanny to work on unexpected days off. Thought you wanted to spend time with your kids?
+1
Anonymous
01/22/2014 10:10
Subject: When nanny's employer gets a snow day....
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If I were asked to come into work so my boss could lay around, I'd be LIVID.
What do you care what your boss does when you work?
Because if they were told to stay home because it's unsafe, I shouldn't be told to come to work so he/she can lay around. I think so many MB and DBs are angry during snow days because when a nanny gets one she doesn't have to "work" and parents have to work because they have to take care of their own children. Their YOUR kids, I'll have my snow days taken away when I have my own children.
You just do not get it somehow. I love my children and spending time with them. you are right that they are MY kids. I do not have work and deadlines which are not cancelled due to just a couple of inches of snow. I do not lay around when I am not in the office. By your logic I should be feeling pretty bad when I am busing my ass watching my kids and doing office work at the same time while you lay around all day and get paid or it
I know how hard it is to work with your children, I DO it almost every day. I never once said it was easy for you to work and take care of your children - I get it it's hard. But you made that choice by having children. I am not responsible to make up for you because you have children and a pretty important job. YOU'RE NOT getting it.
Anonymous
01/22/2014 10:07
Subject: Re:When nanny's employer gets a snow day....
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:When I get a snow day at work all that means is that I can do my computer work from home. None of my deadlines move. If nanny does not come then I end up staying up late (sometimes through the morning) finishing up projects. I would be happy to give the nanny a day of on the snow day if she offers to come on the weekend when it is safe and let me finish my work. If it's all just about nanny's safety then it should work. It's just the nannies I came across would jump on not having to come in if it snows a little bit but noone offers to make up the hours.
I am an employer. I do not really get snow days though. I just get the opportunity to finish my work from home. If nanny gets the snow means she gets to finish the work on a different day like I am then I am fine it
You are insane.
Do you even have a nanny?
No, but I am a nanny and I would resent you for making me make up snow days. Let's just hope your nanny doesn't feel the same way.
Our nanny been with us for three years. She gets a lot of paid days of as our family travels a lot. 6-7 weeks paid vacation make up for possible resentment I think
My only point is that nannies want the same treatment as office workers. Office workers like me do not just get the snow days of. My work does not stop. Why should the nanny's?
Just because your manager is an asshat doesn't mean you have to be one to your nanny.
It's a matter of safety. Bottom line: it is not safe to drive.
How exactly do nannies (you're generalizing BTW) want to be treated like office workers?
Fair pay, benefits...?
You are right, I am generalizing. I saw a lot of threads on this forum with nannies expressing they want the same treatment as office workers. I am all in support of that. My nanny gets paid time of (a lot of it) , I pay her health insurance, give her stipend or her taxes, entirely cover her transportation costs, always pay OT etc I extend all the benefits I have to my nanny. I gave her more than 1/2 on my bonus last year. But I do expect her to share some of my responsibilities in return. I think it is only fair.
Anonymous
01/22/2014 10:03
Subject: When nanny's employer gets a snow day....
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If I were asked to come into work so my boss could lay around, I'd be LIVID.
What do you care what your boss does when you work?
Because if they were told to stay home because it's unsafe, I shouldn't be told to come to work so he/she can lay around. I think so many MB and DBs are angry during snow days because when a nanny gets one she doesn't have to "work" and parents have to work because they have to take care of their own children. Their YOUR kids, I'll have my snow days taken away when I have my own children.
You just do not get it somehow. I love my children and spending time with them. you are right that they are MY kids. I do not have work and deadlines which are not cancelled due to just a couple of inches of snow. I do not lay around when I am not in the office. By your logic I should be feeling pretty bad when I am busing my ass watching my kids and doing office work at the same time while you lay around all day and get paid or it
Anonymous
01/22/2014 09:51
Subject: When nanny's employer gets a snow day....
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If I were asked to come into work so my boss could lay around, I'd be LIVID.
What do you care what your boss does when you work?
Because if they were told to stay home because it's unsafe, I shouldn't be told to come to work so he/she can lay around. I think so many MB and DBs are angry during snow days because when a nanny gets one she doesn't have to "work" and parents have to work because they have to take care of their own children. Their YOUR kids, I'll have my snow days taken away when I have my own children.
Anonymous
01/22/2014 09:51
Subject: When nanny's employer gets a snow day....
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If I were asked to come into work so my boss could lay around, I'd be LIVID.
What do you care what your boss does when you work?
If I risk my life and vehicle to come to work so MB can lay on her fat ass watching Modern Family and napping....I care.
Anonymous
01/22/2014 09:49
Subject: Re:When nanny's employer gets a snow day....
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:When I get a snow day at work all that means is that I can do my computer work from home. None of my deadlines move. If nanny does not come then I end up staying up late (sometimes through the morning) finishing up projects. I would be happy to give the nanny a day of on the snow day if she offers to come on the weekend when it is safe and let me finish my work. If it's all just about nanny's safety then it should work. It's just the nannies I came across would jump on not having to come in if it snows a little bit but noone offers to make up the hours.
I am an employer. I do not really get snow days though. I just get the opportunity to finish my work from home. If nanny gets the snow means she gets to finish the work on a different day like I am then I am fine it
You are insane.
Do you even have a nanny?
No, but I am a nanny and I would resent you for making me make up snow days. Let's just hope your nanny doesn't feel the same way.
Our nanny been with us for three years. She gets a lot of paid days of as our family travels a lot. 6-7 weeks paid vacation make up for possible resentment I think
My only point is that nannies want the same treatment as office workers. Office workers like me do not just get the snow days of. My work does not stop. Why should the nanny's?
Just because your manager is an asshat doesn't mean you have to be one to your nanny.
It's a matter of safety. Bottom line: it is not safe to drive.
How exactly do nannies (you're generalizing BTW) want to be treated like office workers?
Fair pay, benefits...?
Anonymous
01/22/2014 09:46
Subject: When nanny's employer gets a snow day....
Anonymous wrote:If I were asked to come into work so my boss could lay around, I'd be LIVID.
What do you care what your boss does when you work?
Anonymous
01/22/2014 09:45
Subject: Re:When nanny's employer gets a snow day....
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:When I get a snow day at work all that means is that I can do my computer work from home. None of my deadlines move. If nanny does not come then I end up staying up late (sometimes through the morning) finishing up projects. I would be happy to give the nanny a day of on the snow day if she offers to come on the weekend when it is safe and let me finish my work. If it's all just about nanny's safety then it should work. It's just the nannies I came across would jump on not having to come in if it snows a little bit but noone offers to make up the hours.
I am an employer. I do not really get snow days though. I just get the opportunity to finish my work from home. If nanny gets the snow means she gets to finish the work on a different day like I am then I am fine it
You are insane.
Do you even have a nanny?
No, but I am a nanny and I would resent you for making me make up snow days. Let's just hope your nanny doesn't feel the same way.
Our nanny been with us for three years. She gets a lot of paid days of as our family travels a lot. 6-7 weeks paid vacation make up for possible resentment I think
My only point is that nannies want the same treatment as office workers. Office workers like me do not just get the snow days of. My work does not stop. Why should the nanny's?