Anonymous
Post 01/17/2014 15:57     Subject: Martin Luther King's bday are you working?

"Kids don't care if they have to tag along to the grocery store or target, they generally just like to be included."

uh, no they don't. At least not those 2 and over. maybe babies? My kids would infinitely rather stay home and play with our nanny (who they run to the door to greet enthusiastically on Mondays as if she's been away for a month) than to go grocery shopping or run errands that just have no potential for fun and lots of assured boredom.

Agree that if parents use every available opportunity they can to not be with their kids, then they are not great parents. But if they do this for 1 or 2 of the "minor" holidays that they would normally otherwise not be with their kids for anyways (i.e. because they normally work on Mondays) then this is just not a huge deal as a parenting sin.
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2014 14:40     Subject: Re:Martin Luther King's bday are you working?

Its acually more than one poster. And yes, parents who chose to have "me time" on their days off rather than spend it with their children are shitty parents. This is not about jealousy, it is just a realiy. Anywhere but on these insane boards, people would agree. If you don't want to take care of your children when you are able DON'T HAVE THEM.


Meh, parents that take time are not shitty parents. You sound like a shitty nanny who just wants an extra paid day off. Nannies drool over extra paid time off and some will use whatever manipulative technique they can think up to get it. Its actually quite sad that you have such little control over your career options and few prospects that wrangling an extra day off is your main goal.
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2014 14:33     Subject: Martin Luther King's bday are you working?

Yes, I will be working even though dad will lock himself on his man cave and mom will lock herself in her bedroom. They have never let me go a minute earlier nor paid extra for my time. There's no appreciation on anything I do, and I do work 12 hours a day. I can't wait to find another family and work regular hours.
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2014 14:05     Subject: Martin Luther King's bday are you working?

I will starting a new job on Monday. MB will be home, but only b/c she took a vacation day to help acclimate me to their area and home. I'd also be working if I was still at the job that is ending today.
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2014 13:46     Subject: Martin Luther King's bday are you working?

Anonymous wrote:People, stop indulging the troll who wants to make trouble suggesting that patents are "shitty" if they have a nanny who they contract to work on a day they are off. She is ignorant, and just wants to pick fights, so don't rise to her bait.

It doesn't matter what parents are doing or not doing. The only thing that matters is the contract and mutually agreed expectations around what constitutes a holiday. MLK day is a fed holiday, and if a nanny is entitled to all fed holidays, then she should expect the day off. MLK day is also a floater, or a day of work, for much of the private sector.

Nannies need to advocate for the contract that suits there needs. Bottom line. All this other nonsense is just that...nonsense.

Its acually more than one poster. And yes, parents who chose to have "me time" on their days off rather than spend it with their children are shitty parents. This is not about jealousy, it is just a realiy. Anywhere but on these insane boards, people would agree. If you don't want to take care of your children when you are able DON'T HAVE THEM.
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2014 13:27     Subject: Martin Luther King's bday are you working?

People, stop indulging the troll who wants to make trouble suggesting that patents are "shitty" if they have a nanny who they contract to work on a day they are off. She is ignorant, and just wants to pick fights, so don't rise to her bait.

It doesn't matter what parents are doing or not doing. The only thing that matters is the contract and mutually agreed expectations around what constitutes a holiday. MLK day is a fed holiday, and if a nanny is entitled to all fed holidays, then she should expect the day off. MLK day is also a floater, or a day of work, for much of the private sector.

Nannies need to advocate for the contract that suits there needs. Bottom line. All this other nonsense is just that...nonsense.
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2014 13:05     Subject: Martin Luther King's bday are you working?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:http://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/snow-dismissal-procedures/federal-holidays/#url=2014

It's a holiday for me, but it's in my work agreement. What does your work agreement say?

Isn't your work agreement legally enforceable?


What does that have to do with anything? I don't think this was the OP.

My nanny will be working on Monday even though DH has the day off. She swapped MLK day for another day off during the holidays. It's also nice to have a day off that can be used to get things done around the house that can't be done without childcare.


If that's your agreement with your nanny, by all means, but I think its pretty shitty to use your day off "doing things around the house" instead of being with your kids. There are tons of people without nannies, and they seem to get by just fine without needing someone to occupy their children to function.


Um ... we're with them all day Saturday and Sunday, and we'll be around on Monday, just doing other things that have to get done that otherwise, the kids would have to sit around and watch us do. How is that fun for them?


You know what is fun for kids? Being around their parents. Kids don't care if they have to tag along to the grocery store or target, they generally just like to be included. It must make you feel better, though, to tell yourself that it's for the kids when, in reality, you just don't want the extra hassle. Congrats though, for being able to take care of your children ALL DAY Saturday and Sunday! Parent of the year!

Who cares what you think of her parenting abilities? She doesn't owe you anything. Think whatever you like.



Yes, it would be so much fun for the kids to watch mommy and daddy pay their bills or do taxes instead of maybe going out and doing something fun with the nanny who is paid to be there so mommy and daddy can do the fun things with the kids when the nanny isn't around.

Do you know what parents also need? Time by themselves. It helps keep the relationship healthy.


+1

She's just jealous she can't afford the luxury of a nanny.
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2014 12:27     Subject: Martin Luther King's bday are you working?

My nanny is.
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2014 12:05     Subject: Martin Luther King's bday are you working?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:http://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/snow-dismissal-procedures/federal-holidays/#url=2014

It's a holiday for me, but it's in my work agreement. What does your work agreement say?

Isn't your work agreement legally enforceable?


What does that have to do with anything? I don't think this was the OP.

My nanny will be working on Monday even though DH has the day off. She swapped MLK day for another day off during the holidays. It's also nice to have a day off that can be used to get things done around the house that can't be done without childcare.


If that's your agreement with your nanny, by all means, but I think its pretty shitty to use your day off "doing things around the house" instead of being with your kids. There are tons of people without nannies, and they seem to get by just fine without needing someone to occupy their children to function.


Um ... we're with them all day Saturday and Sunday, and we'll be around on Monday, just doing other things that have to get done that otherwise, the kids would have to sit around and watch us do. How is that fun for them?


You know what is fun for kids? Being around their parents. Kids don't care if they have to tag along to the grocery store or target, they generally just like to be included. It must make you feel better, though, to tell yourself that it's for the kids when, in reality, you just don't want the extra hassle. Congrats though, for being able to take care of your children ALL DAY Saturday and Sunday! Parent of the year!

Who cares what you think of her parenting abilities? She doesn't owe you anything. Think whatever you like.



Yes, it would be so much fun for the kids to watch mommy and daddy pay their bills or do taxes instead of maybe going out and doing something fun with the nanny who is paid to be there so mommy and daddy can do the fun things with the kids when the nanny isn't around.

Do you know what parents also need? Time by themselves. It helps keep the relationship healthy.
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2014 11:34     Subject: Martin Luther King's bday are you working?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:http://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/snow-dismissal-procedures/federal-holidays/#url=2014

It's a holiday for me, but it's in my work agreement. What does your work agreement say?

Isn't your work agreement legally enforceable?


What does that have to do with anything? I don't think this was the OP.

My nanny will be working on Monday even though DH has the day off. She swapped MLK day for another day off during the holidays. It's also nice to have a day off that can be used to get things done around the house that can't be done without childcare.


If that's your agreement with your nanny, by all means, but I think its pretty shitty to use your day off "doing things around the house" instead of being with your kids. There are tons of people without nannies, and they seem to get by just fine without needing someone to occupy their children to function.


Um ... we're with them all day Saturday and Sunday, and we'll be around on Monday, just doing other things that have to get done that otherwise, the kids would have to sit around and watch us do. How is that fun for them?


You know what is fun for kids? Being around their parents. Kids don't care if they have to tag along to the grocery store or target, they generally just like to be included. It must make you feel better, though, to tell yourself that it's for the kids when, in reality, you just don't want the extra hassle. Congrats though, for being able to take care of your children ALL DAY Saturday and Sunday! Parent of the year!

Who cares what you think of her parenting abilities? She doesn't owe you anything. Think whatever you like.
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2014 11:27     Subject: Martin Luther King's bday are you working?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:http://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/snow-dismissal-procedures/federal-holidays/#url=2014

It's a holiday for me, but it's in my work agreement. What does your work agreement say?

Isn't your work agreement legally enforceable?


What does that have to do with anything? I don't think this was the OP.

My nanny will be working on Monday even though DH has the day off. She swapped MLK day for another day off during the holidays. It's also nice to have a day off that can be used to get things done around the house that can't be done without childcare.


If that's your agreement with your nanny, by all means, but I think its pretty shitty to use your day off "doing things around the house" instead of being with your kids. There are tons of people without nannies, and they seem to get by just fine without needing someone to occupy their children to function.


Um ... we're with them all day Saturday and Sunday, and we'll be around on Monday, just doing other things that have to get done that otherwise, the kids would have to sit around and watch us do. How is that fun for them?

You know what is fun for kids? Being around their parents. Kids don't care if they have to tag along to the grocery store or target, they generally just like to be included. It must make you feel better, though, to tell yourself that it's for the kids when, in reality, you just don't want the extra hassle. Congrats though, for being able to take care of your children ALL DAY Saturday and Sunday! Parent of the year!
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2014 10:54     Subject: Martin Luther King's bday are you working?

You know, all those fun things you'd like to do on your day off like go out to eat, do some shopping, etc., rely on other people being at work. It's not a universal given that everyone gets every holiday off.
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2014 10:53     Subject: Martin Luther King's bday are you working?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:http://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/snow-dismissal-procedures/federal-holidays/#url=2014

It's a holiday for me, but it's in my work agreement. What does your work agreement say?

Isn't your work agreement legally enforceable?


What does that have to do with anything? I don't think this was the OP.

My nanny will be working on Monday even though DH has the day off. She swapped MLK day for another day off during the holidays. It's also nice to have a day off that can be used to get things done around the house that can't be done without childcare.


If that's your agreement with your nanny, by all means, but I think its pretty shitty to use your day off "doing things around the house" instead of being with your kids. There are tons of people without nannies, and they seem to get by just fine without needing someone to occupy their children to function.


Um ... we're with them all day Saturday and Sunday, and we'll be around on Monday, just doing other things that have to get done that otherwise, the kids would have to sit around and watch us do. How is that fun for them?
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2014 19:31     Subject: Martin Luther King's bday are you working?

Every year I provide my nanny with a list of the holidays she has off with the actual dates noted so that there is no confusion. For example, if the holiday (like Christmas) falls on a Saturday that year, she gets the Friday before off as her holiday since she already gets weekends off.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2014 08:08     Subject: Martin Luther King's bday are you working?

This is why you take care of this stuff upfront. Then there aren't the questions of do I get this day off from work. In the contract, you have it spelled out exactly which days you do not have to work.

If it is your day to work, and your boss has the day off from work, it is not for you to judge how your boss spends that day. Maybe they are going to see the doctor, a dentist, getting their nails done, or going to se a movie. It is not up to you to decide how they should spend that day. That is why they have employed you to be there that day.