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Anonymous wrote:Nanny share families think they can get nannies at $20 per hour in Northern VA or DC? Think again. How much does your mortgage cost? Nannies still have to make a living in YOUR area. It is not like they commute from KENTUCKY. they oay the same for groceries and bills.
GET REAL CHEAP FAMILIES. You will go spend thousands on your TVs and high end designer bags but are willing to oay your nannies who take care of your most important and valuable beings in life for $20 per hour. Ha!

And DONT expect housework from a nanny, she is a nanny, GET A CLEANER CHEAPOS!!

How much do you think people make around here? (in general). we are an above average HHI ($220K/year) and in Arlington, live in an old house, old TV, no designer clothes (whole family is head to toe Old Navy/Target). I save my money TO pay my nanny ($850/week)

How the hell does an adult nanny make ends meet on 45k?

Anonymous wrote:Nanny share families think they can get nannies at $20 per hour in Northern VA or DC? Think again. How much does your mortgage cost? Nannies still have to make a living in YOUR area. It is not like they commute from KENTUCKY. they oay the same for groceries and bills.
GET REAL CHEAP FAMILIES. You will go spend thousands on your TVs and high end designer bags but are willing to oay your nannies who take care of your most important and valuable beings in life for $20 per hour. Ha!

And DONT expect housework from a nanny, she is a nanny, GET A CLEANER CHEAPOS!!

How much do you think people make around here? (in general). we are an above average HHI ($220K/year) and in Arlington, live in an old house, old TV, no designer clothes (whole family is head to toe Old Navy/Target). I save my money TO pay my nanny ($850/week)

Nanny share families think they can get nannies at $20 per hour in Northern VA or DC? Think again. How much does your mortgage cost? Nannies still have to make a living in YOUR area. It is not like they commute from KENTUCKY. they oay the same for groceries and bills.
GET REAL CHEAP FAMILIES. You will go spend thousands on your TVs and high end designer bags but are willing to oay your nannies who take care of your most important and valuable beings in life for $20 per hour. Ha!

And DONT expect housework from a nanny, she is a nanny, GET A CLEANER CHEAPOS!!

In a share in northern SS area (not downtown). $800 a week for 50 hrs. This is about tops what i am willing to pay $400/week given the price of the other options for my kids at this stage - before/after care and full time preschool - and our budget.

I'm not arguing that a nanny should never make more or that our nanny may not be worth more. I'm just saying I'm about topped out at this point. (We pay preschool for a few AMs on top of nanny's salary and camp for oldest for part of summer.)

to me it is not relevant how much a nanny's normal rate is - the relevant price point for comparison for ME as an MB in a share is how much mroe expensive it is than daycare/preschool. Since my family would never hired our own nanny solo that's just not the comparison point we have.

For a single family with 2 children I charge $17/hour, base. In a share I charge $18-$20/hour depending on the specifics of the share. If I have to juggle all the kid laundry for both families, if the families operate pretty independently of each other require more mediating from me, if they want to share hosting and switch from house to house constantly, if they want the usual meal planning and prep, etc. I'm going to charge closer to $20/hour, base, since that's a lot more work for me especially when dealing with 2 families.

As far as the minimum wage increase, I can see what the law says, and I understand why it is what it is, but I will keep an eye on what it does to rates, and adjust mine accordingly. Daycare rates will surely go up, so mine likely will as well.

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Anonymous wrote:As a PP already said, I think the issue came up because of the soon to be increase in minimum wage. I think most nannies currently in a share make more than $14/hr. The issue is when minimum wage becomes $11.50/hr.

Also, while I agree with you, nannydeb, that it is impossible to convince some people what the law says the truth is that is absurd. There was a link posted to the actual law so it can't be disputed anymore. If there are some people deluding themselves into thinking they are somehow still right that's there problem. Wishful thinking doesn't make it so. The law is what it is. They don't have to like it but they can't pretend it says something different.

What do you think the law says?

I'm not repeating it. Go read the other thread and find the link and read it for yourself like did. Or don't, I don't really care but if you don't bother reading the actual law don't pretend you know what it says.

nannydeb was arguing the law requires minimum wage from each parent - despite the fact that the actual language of the law does not, it only requires that a total rate is above minimum wage. So I am not sure what it is that you agree with her about when the law very clearly says that only the total rate of joint employment counts.

I wasn't agreeing with what nannydeb thinks the law says, I was agreeing that some people are never going to believe what the law actually says, apparently nannydeb included.

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Anonymous wrote:As a PP already said, I think the issue came up because of the soon to be increase in minimum wage. I think most nannies currently in a share make more than $14/hr. The issue is when minimum wage becomes $11.50/hr.

Also, while I agree with you, nannydeb, that it is impossible to convince some people what the law says the truth is that is absurd. There was a link posted to the actual law so it can't be disputed anymore. If there are some people deluding themselves into thinking they are somehow still right that's there problem. Wishful thinking doesn't make it so. The law is what it is. They don't have to like it but they can't pretend it says something different.

What do you think the law says?

I'm not repeating it. Go read the other thread and find the link and read it for yourself like did. Or don't, I don't really care but if you don't bother reading the actual law don't pretend you know what it says.

nannydeb was arguing the law requires minimum wage from each parent - despite the fact that the actual language of the law does not, it only requires that a total rate is above minimum wage. So I am not sure what it is that you agree with her about when the law very clearly says that only the total rate of joint employment counts.

You need only one nanny to get herself a free legal aid lawyer to chalenge her employers. Then we'll find out about the "grey areas" of this law.

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Anonymous wrote:As a PP already said, I think the issue came up because of the soon to be increase in minimum wage. I think most nannies currently in a share make more than $14/hr. The issue is when minimum wage becomes $11.50/hr.

Also, while I agree with you, nannydeb, that it is impossible to convince some people what the law says the truth is that is absurd. There was a link posted to the actual law so it can't be disputed anymore. If there are some people deluding themselves into thinking they are somehow still right that's there problem. Wishful thinking doesn't make it so. The law is what it is. They don't have to like it but they can't pretend it says something different.

What do you think the law says?

I'm not repeating it. Go read the other thread and find the link and read it for yourself like did. Or don't, I don't really care but if you don't bother reading the actual law don't pretend you know what it says.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd think most parents would be smart enough to pay what it takes, if they could sang a top-notch nanny, provided they could afford her premium rates. They can see for themselves what's out there. It's rather depressing.

It actually isn't, we were in the market a couple of months ago and it was a veritable parade of excellent candidates.

Why not share your rejects with the desparate parents here, if you speak the truth? The massive disconnect is fascinating.

I haven't seen anyone desperate here, have you? Lots of people are happy with their nannies.

Anonymous wrote:As a PP already said, I think the issue came up because of the soon to be increase in minimum wage. I think most nannies currently in a share make more than $14/hr. The issue is when minimum wage becomes $11.50/hr.

Also, while I agree with you, nannydeb, that it is impossible to convince some people what the law says the truth is that is absurd. There was a link posted to the actual law so it can't be disputed anymore. If there are some people deluding themselves into thinking they are somehow still right that's there problem. Wishful thinking doesn't make it so. The law is what it is. They don't have to like it but they can't pretend it says something different.

What do you think the law says?

As a PP already said, I think the issue came up because of the soon to be increase in minimum wage. I think most nannies currently in a share make more than $14/hr. The issue is when minimum wage becomes $11.50/hr.

Also, while I agree with you, nannydeb, that it is impossible to convince some people what the law says the truth is that is absurd. There was a link posted to the actual law so it can't be disputed anymore. If there are some people deluding themselves into thinking they are somehow still right that's there problem. Wishful thinking doesn't make it so. The law is what it is. They don't have to like it but they can't pretend it says something different.

I wouldn't pay more than $8-9 an hour for one child in a share. If the share is at your house, its a lot of wear and tear and keeping it clean since most nanny's do not feel it is their responsibility to do housework. If at someone else's house, there needs to be a huge benefit to me as I have to basically have two of everything - one at our house and one at the other families house. More than that, you might as well go with day care.

Anonymous wrote:I'd think most parents would be smart enough to pay what it takes, if they could sang a top-notch nanny, provided they could afford her premium rates. They can see for themselves what's out there. It's rather depressing.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd think most parents would be smart enough to pay what it takes, if they could sang a top-notch nanny, provided they could afford her premium rates. They can see for themselves what's out there. It's rather depressing.

It actually isn't, we were in the market a couple of months ago and it was a veritable parade of excellent candidates.

Why not share your rejects with the desparate parents here, if you speak the truth? The massive disconnect is fascinating.