Anonymous
Post 11/26/2013 20:58     Subject: Speech Therapy for children with ESL nannies
I'm a nanny who finds it a bit annoying and baffling when I meet foreign nannies who barely speak English. They can't even respond to Hi, how are you? I work in Del Ray, Alexandria and have yet to meet another american born nanny. Where are you???
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2013 20:36     Subject: Speech Therapy for children with ESL nannies
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Shocking that someone doesn't sit online waiting for the trolls to come out?
I never claimed to have vast experience with bilingual children, however, the source I cited The American Speach Language Hearing Association has plenty, more than you I'm sure. If you are so convinced of your opinion, why don't you take up the debate with a professional, rather than trying to shame the mothers on DCUM who chooses not to employ entitled, bitchy, white women such as yourself.


Now the truth comes out. It's about race.

I knew it, OP. You need help.
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2013 20:06     Subject: Speech Therapy for children with ESL nannies
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:While I don't agree with the way that poster words her hypothesis, I think she has a point.

Example: Little Sally has a nanny who speaks mostly Spanish, but a little broken English. Adults cannot understand Sally's nanny when the nanny speaks English -- the accent is too thick and the English is too broken. Nanny speaks mostly in broken English to Sally, with a little Spanish mixed in.
In this case, I can see how it could definitely contribute to Sally having speech therapy down the road.

This is NOT the same situation as you linked to OP.


In this case, "little Sally's" problem not of having a nanny who does not speak English, it is having parents who are so absent that her primary source of language acquisition is from her nanny.


I was thinking the exact same thing. My nanny has a pretty strong accent and speaks to my children only in Spanish (why we hired her). There are a couple of words that DC1 says with a slight accent, but we actually think its cute. Otherwise her speech (pronunciation, vocab, grammar) is way ahead of her peers.
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2013 18:55     Subject: Speech Therapy for children with ESL nannies
Anonymous wrote:
Shocking that someone doesn't sit online waiting for the trolls to come out?
I never claimed to have vast experience with bilingual children, however, the source I cited The American Speach Language Hearing Association has plenty, more than you I'm sure. If you are so convinced of your opinion, why don't you take up the debate with a professional, rather than trying to shame the mothers on DCUM who chooses not to employ entitled, bitchy, white women such as yourself.


Now the truth comes out. It's about race.
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2013 18:42     Subject: Speech Therapy for children with ESL nannies
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. These are the threads, after a quick search, that I could find the obnoxious poster in question touting her ridiculous assertions.
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/nanny-forum/posts/list/282114.page

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/nanny-forum/posts/list/287575.page#3035683

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/nanny-forum/posts/list/15/278527.page#2989500

Im sure there are more out there, I feel like she (attachment disorder poster) posts something every time she can make it even remotely relevant.

How extensive is your experience in working with bilingual children?

Zip. How shocking.

Shocking that someone doesn't sit online waiting for the trolls to come out?
I never claimed to have vast experience with bilingual children, however, the source I cited The American Speach Language Hearing Association has plenty, more than you I'm sure. If you are so convinced of your opinion, why don't you take up the debate with a professional, rather than trying to shame the mothers on DCUM who chooses not to employ entitled, bitchy, white women such as yourself.

Anger issues. Hope she has no access to weapons. Therapy may help her.
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2013 14:16     Subject: Speech Therapy for children with ESL nannies
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. These are the threads, after a quick search, that I could find the obnoxious poster in question touting her ridiculous assertions.
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/nanny-forum/posts/list/282114.page

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/nanny-forum/posts/list/287575.page#3035683

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/nanny-forum/posts/list/15/278527.page#2989500

Im sure there are more out there, I feel like she (attachment disorder poster) posts something every time she can make it even remotely relevant.

How extensive is your experience in working with bilingual children?

Zip. How shocking.

Shocking that someone doesn't sit online waiting for the trolls to come out?
I never claimed to have vast experience with bilingual children, however, the source I cited The American Speach Language Hearing Association has plenty, more than you I'm sure. If you are so convinced of your opinion, why don't you take up the debate with a professional, rather than trying to shame the mothers on DCUM who chooses not to employ entitled, bitchy, white women such as yourself.
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2013 12:28     Subject: Speech Therapy for children with ESL nannies
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. These are the threads, after a quick search, that I could find the obnoxious poster in question touting her ridiculous assertions.
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/nanny-forum/posts/list/282114.page

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/nanny-forum/posts/list/287575.page#3035683

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/nanny-forum/posts/list/15/278527.page#2989500

Im sure there are more out there, I feel like she (attachment disorder poster) posts something every time she can make it even remotely relevant.

How extensive is your experience in working with bilingual children?

Zip. How shocking.
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2013 00:33     Subject: Speech Therapy for children with ESL nannies
Anonymous wrote:OP here. These are the threads, after a quick search, that I could find the obnoxious poster in question touting her ridiculous assertions.
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/nanny-forum/posts/list/282114.page

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/nanny-forum/posts/list/287575.page#3035683

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/nanny-forum/posts/list/15/278527.page#2989500

Im sure there are more out there, I feel like she (attachment disorder poster) posts something every time she can make it even remotely relevant.

How extensive is your experience in working with bilingual children?
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2013 00:28     Subject: Speech Therapy for children with ESL nannies
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:http://www.asha.org/public/speech/development/bilingualchildren/

There. Drop it please poster who keeps falsely insinuating that hiring a non-native English speaking nanny will cause speech problems in children. It's just not true.

What exactly are you referring to, OP?


I am not the OP, but I do believe they are referring to the person who constantly writes on these boards that hiring a non-native English speaking nanny will cause speech problems in children. There is nothing to support this poster, but they continue to post that garbage any opportunity they get.

Link?
Anonymous
Post 11/25/2013 20:19     Subject: Speech Therapy for children with ESL nannies
* and the attachment disorder poster
Anonymous
Post 11/25/2013 20:19     Subject: Speech Therapy for children with ESL nannies
OP here. These are the threads, after a quick search, that I could find the obnoxious poster in question touting her ridiculous assertions.
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/nanny-forum/posts/list/282114.page

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/nanny-forum/posts/list/287575.page#3035683

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/nanny-forum/posts/list/15/278527.page#2989500

Im sure there are more out there, I feel like she (attachment disorder poster) posts something every time she can make it even remotely relevant.
Anonymous
Post 11/25/2013 19:35     Subject: Speech Therapy for children with ESL nannies
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:While I don't agree with the way that poster words her hypothesis, I think she has a point.

Example: Little Sally has a nanny who speaks mostly Spanish, but a little broken English. Adults cannot understand Sally's nanny when the nanny speaks English -- the accent is too thick and the English is too broken. Nanny speaks mostly in broken English to Sally, with a little Spanish mixed in.
In this case, I can see how it could definitely contribute to Sally having speech therapy down the road.

This is NOT the same situation as you linked to OP.


In this case, "little Sally's" problem not of having a nanny who does not speak English, it is having parents who are so absent that her primary source of language acquisition is from her nanny.

If it turns out that little Sally does need speech therapy, why do you suppose that might be?


Kids might need speech-language therapy for a variety of reasons, including:

hearing impairments
cognitive (intellectual, thinking) or other developmental delays
weak oral muscles
excessive drooling
chronic hoarseness
birth defects such as cleft lip or cleft palate
autism
motor planning problems
respiratory problems (breathing disorders)
feeding and swallowing disorders
traumatic brain injury
Anonymous
Post 11/25/2013 18:48     Subject: Speech Therapy for children with ESL nannies
IF little Sally turns out to need speech therapy, it will have nothing to do with being bilingual. It will also have nothing todo with how much time she spends with her nanny.

This is the point

Why is this such a difficult thing for you to understand PP?

You really know nothing about language acquisition in children, as evidenced by your post. Why don't you devote your energies to learning about this if you are so concerned about the issues?
Anonymous
Post 11/25/2013 18:00     Subject: Speech Therapy for children with ESL nannies
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:While I don't agree with the way that poster words her hypothesis, I think she has a point.

Example: Little Sally has a nanny who speaks mostly Spanish, but a little broken English. Adults cannot understand Sally's nanny when the nanny speaks English -- the accent is too thick and the English is too broken. Nanny speaks mostly in broken English to Sally, with a little Spanish mixed in.
In this case, I can see how it could definitely contribute to Sally having speech therapy down the road.

This is NOT the same situation as you linked to OP.


In this case, "little Sally's" problem not of having a nanny who does not speak English, it is having parents who are so absent that her primary source of language acquisition is from her nanny.

If it turns out that little Sally does need speech therapy, why do you suppose that might be?
Anonymous
Post 11/25/2013 17:53     Subject: Speech Therapy for children with ESL nannies
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:http://www.asha.org/public/speech/development/bilingualchildren/

There. Drop it please poster who keeps falsely insinuating that hiring a non-native English speaking nanny will cause speech problems in children. It's just not true.

What exactly are you referring to, OP?


I am not the OP, but I do believe they are referring to the person who constantly writes on these boards that hiring a non-native English speaking nanny will cause speech problems in children. There is nothing to support this poster, but they continue to post that garbage any opportunity they get.

Link?