Anonymous
Post 10/10/2013 13:39     Subject: Re:Lend me your furloughed nanny
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OMG, if I, as a nanny, were about to be given an indefinite amount of unpaid leave I would JUMP at this opportunity. This is not offensive to nannies at all, it is actually really helpful and could potentially save one who is about to be in dire financial straits.

Of course the MB would want to talk to the other MB first - to make sure their needs are coordinated since obviously the nanny's employer would want first dibs on her time as soon as they needed her back, but do any of you honestly think the nanny wouldn't also be consulted?! In what world?


This is the insulting part, since you don't get it. It is NOT the MBs decision as to whether or not a job is a good fit for her nanny. If you lay your nanny off during this shutdown, that is your right, but it is HER right to decide whether or not she wants to work with you on coordinating something so she would be available when the shutdown is over. This post wasn't looking out for out of work nannies, give me a fucking break. It was written for the MBs who don't want to/can't pay their nanny, but want to ensure she is still there when all is said and done. It was self serving, and insulting. It would have been perfectly fine and appreciated had OP addressed the NANNIES she would be hiring.


Okay, I think perhaps you've been hitting the bottle early today so let me try and write this out clearly.

OP needs a short-term nanny and wanted to network with MBs/DBs who either have had to give their nanny unpaid time off or are thinking they will need to do so (and are obviously feeling badly about it because they care about their nanny and know she needs a steady income).

MB reads this post and thinks, "oh that would be a great way to ensure my nanny has the opportunity to keep her income steady while we wait for Boehner to get his act together."

MB and OP talk - OP says, "I need a nanny for X days/times/weeks, would that work for your schedule?"

MB says, "Actually, we'll need the nanny back as soon as the shutdown ends, can you be flexible with your end date?"

OP says sure, she understands and can be flexible, they can get a nanny through an agency if the feds go back to work before then.

MB then says to her nanny, "We're so sorry we can't afford to pay you right now, but I've spoken with another parent who would be interested in talking with you about a temporary position she's offering until we are all back at work and can get back to normal - here is her number/email if you'd like to talk to her about it."

What part of that is offensive to you?


The part that is offensive to me is the part where my MB gets first refusal on a potential job for ME. What if their needs didn't match up exactly and my MB decides this isn't the job for me? Wtf. Maybe I dont even want to continue working for someone who is apparently 1 paycheck away from broke. Why even deal with a middle man? Why couldn't OP just advertise for a temporary nanny like everyone else, and let nannies decide what does or doesn't work for them. An MB would be free to say this might work for my nanny and pass it on to her nanny, or make first contact, but to put the decision of whether or not a job fits someone's needs in the hands of their employer is looking out for the needs of said employer, not the employee. That is what is offensive.

I'm really tired of all the bull shit nannies get for sticking up for themselves. No I'm not stupid. No I haven't been drinking. And you know what, all you hoighty toighty MBs (mommy bitches), lots of nannies have degrees, including this one. You are not better than me, so step off.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2013 13:07     Subject: Re:Lend me your furloughed nanny
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OMG, if I, as a nanny, were about to be given an indefinite amount of unpaid leave I would JUMP at this opportunity. This is not offensive to nannies at all, it is actually really helpful and could potentially save one who is about to be in dire financial straits.

Of course the MB would want to talk to the other MB first - to make sure their needs are coordinated since obviously the nanny's employer would want first dibs on her time as soon as they needed her back, but do any of you honestly think the nanny wouldn't also be consulted?! In what world?


This is the insulting part, since you don't get it. It is NOT the MBs decision as to whether or not a job is a good fit for her nanny. If you lay your nanny off during this shutdown, that is your right, but it is HER right to decide whether or not she wants to work with you on coordinating something so she would be available when the shutdown is over. This post wasn't looking out for out of work nannies, give me a fucking break. It was written for the MBs who don't want to/can't pay their nanny, but want to ensure she is still there when all is said and done. It was self serving, and insulting. It would have been perfectly fine and appreciated had OP addressed the NANNIES she would be hiring.


Okay, I think perhaps you've been hitting the bottle early today so let me try and write this out clearly.

OP needs a short-term nanny and wanted to network with MBs/DBs who either have had to give their nanny unpaid time off or are thinking they will need to do so (and are obviously feeling badly about it because they care about their nanny and know she needs a steady income).

MB reads this post and thinks, "oh that would be a great way to ensure my nanny has the opportunity to keep her income steady while we wait for Boehner to get his act together."

MB and OP talk - OP says, "I need a nanny for X days/times/weeks, would that work for your schedule?"

MB says, "Actually, we'll need the nanny back as soon as the shutdown ends, can you be flexible with your end date?"

OP says sure, she understands and can be flexible, they can get a nanny through an agency if the feds go back to work before then.

MB then says to her nanny, "We're so sorry we can't afford to pay you right now, but I've spoken with another parent who would be interested in talking with you about a temporary position she's offering until we are all back at work and can get back to normal - here is her number/email if you'd like to talk to her about it."

What part of that is offensive to you?
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2013 13:06     Subject: Re:Lend me your furloughed nanny
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oh for the love of...

OP is looking for employers who are struggling to figure out how to pay their nanny/need to give their nanny some unpaid time off due to the shutdown. She's offering a networking solution so these employers could tell their nanny that although they aren't able to pay them until MB/DB goes back to work, they do have a lead on a temporary position to compensate for that lost income and would they be interested in speaking to the MB about the job.

Let's not crucify her for a casually-worded post, let's actually try to use our critical thinking abilities to get at what she MEANT.

And yes, I'm a nanny.


How refreshing to learn that there is at least one nanny out there who is intelligent and mentally balanced enough not to walk through life with a giant chip on her shoulder about how nannies are always abused and unappreciated. Of course the "loaned out" nanny needs to be involved in this decision. Does anyone really doubt that the OP intended otherwise? You all need to stop projecting your low self-esteem about being nannies onto the well-meaning MBs who employ you.


Agree 100% -- You nannies are embarrassing!!
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2013 13:05     Subject: Lend me your furloughed nanny
You nannies posting are the reason I would never trust my children with stangers. A bunch of dramatic looney-tunes who take offence to everything. Get real careers if you feel that inferior. Oh I forgot, you need a degree for that!
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2013 12:59     Subject: Lend me your furloughed nanny
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nannies are not property to be lent out.
If you're looking for a temporary nanny, you should interview them directly. It is not the place or decision of their employer to "lend" them out.


Omg will you shut up. You nannies have egos the size of the moon. So dramatic and immature.


Why don't you shut up! What you mean is we don't have egos befitting our class. Just shut up! The post was perhaps well intended but it was RUDE, and says a lot for the amount of respect OP has for nannies.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2013 12:56     Subject: Re:Lend me your furloughed nanny
Anonymous wrote:OMG, if I, as a nanny, were about to be given an indefinite amount of unpaid leave I would JUMP at this opportunity. This is not offensive to nannies at all, it is actually really helpful and could potentially save one who is about to be in dire financial straits.

Of course the MB would want to talk to the other MB first - to make sure their needs are coordinated since obviously the nanny's employer would want first dibs on her time as soon as they needed her back, but do any of you honestly think the nanny wouldn't also be consulted?! In what world?


This is the insulting part, since you don't get it. It is NOT the MBs decision as to whether or not a job is a good fit for her nanny. If you lay your nanny off during this shutdown, that is your right, but it is HER right to decide whether or not she wants to work with you on coordinating something so she would be available when the shutdown is over. This post wasn't looking out for out of work nannies, give me a fucking break. It was written for the MBs who don't want to/can't pay their nanny, but want to ensure she is still there when all is said and done. It was self serving, and insulting. It would have been perfectly fine and appreciated had OP addressed the NANNIES she would be hiring.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2013 12:54     Subject: Lend me your furloughed nanny
Anonymous wrote:Nannies are not property to be lent out.
If you're looking for a temporary nanny, you should interview them directly. It is not the place or decision of their employer to "lend" them out.


Omg will you shut up. You nannies have egos the size of the moon. So dramatic and immature.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2013 12:52     Subject: Re:Lend me your furloughed nanny
I also totally interrupted the OP's post as seeking a win/win solution.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2013 12:43     Subject: Re:Lend me your furloughed nanny
OMG, if I, as a nanny, were about to be given an indefinite amount of unpaid leave I would JUMP at this opportunity. This is not offensive to nannies at all, it is actually really helpful and could potentially save one who is about to be in dire financial straits.

Of course the MB would want to talk to the other MB first - to make sure their needs are coordinated since obviously the nanny's employer would want first dibs on her time as soon as they needed her back, but do any of you honestly think the nanny wouldn't also be consulted?! In what world?
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2013 12:09     Subject: Lend me your furloughed nanny
Anonymous wrote:OP meant what she posted: lend me your nanny!


Exactly. Do nannies ever get the benefit of the doubt here? Nope. We are stupid, entitled, and lazy, and need to remember our places.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2013 11:58     Subject: Lend me your furloughed nanny
OP meant what she posted: lend me your nanny!
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2013 05:25     Subject: Lend me your furloughed nanny
^+1. Jeez people. You knew what OP meant. Get a life.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2013 23:47     Subject: Re:Lend me your furloughed nanny
Anonymous wrote:Oh for the love of...

OP is looking for employers who are struggling to figure out how to pay their nanny/need to give their nanny some unpaid time off due to the shutdown. She's offering a networking solution so these employers could tell their nanny that although they aren't able to pay them until MB/DB goes back to work, they do have a lead on a temporary position to compensate for that lost income and would they be interested in speaking to the MB about the job.

Let's not crucify her for a casually-worded post, let's actually try to use our critical thinking abilities to get at what she MEANT.

And yes, I'm a nanny.


How refreshing to learn that there is at least one nanny out there who is intelligent and mentally balanced enough not to walk through life with a giant chip on her shoulder about how nannies are always abused and unappreciated. Of course the "loaned out" nanny needs to be involved in this decision. Does anyone really doubt that the OP intended otherwise? You all need to stop projecting your low self-esteem about being nannies onto the well-meaning MBs who employ you.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2013 22:08     Subject: Re:Lend me your furloughed nanny
Isn't kind of common for nannies here to typically post to other nannies, and maybe an MB would have the same first instinct to post directed at other MBs? Not because she thinks the nanny is an object to be traded. She was probably putting herself in the shoes of another MB who has a nanny that she is trying to keep employed, while probably not needing her due to being out of work herself, and thinking how great this situation could be all the way around. It was really quite thoughtful of her and people here need to, once again, brush the giant chips off their shoulder and take a post for the good intent that is behind it.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2013 21:42     Subject: Lend me your furloughed nanny
I am also surprised at the nasty responses OP got. I frankly interpreted her message as being directed to whomever could be interested, employers of nannies or nannies who have talked to their employers and are trying to figure out how to face this difficult time. the reality is that a lot of people in DC are at home suddenly with no pay. contractors will not get back pay, federal workers maybe will, maybe not, but are not paid now and who knows for how long they will have to go without a salary. families with both parents working for the gov have now no pay at all. right or wrong, there might be families who now do not know how to pay the nanny (who presumably has bills to pay too and cannot wait for Bohener to bring the damn bill to a vote). the nanny who does not get paid can leave the family and find a new job sure, but in reality I doubt that in this market and during the shutdown she is going to find another job tomorrow. at the end, an opportunity like the one offered (nobody is forced to take it) by OP can be a good solution for a nanny and a family trying to ride out the shutdown and go back to the normal routine.