Anonymous
Post 09/21/2013 20:00     Subject: Nanny/infant - was this negligent?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Huh? I'm absolutely not a troll, and Jeff can verify that.

It can not be verified. Lots of people have more than one device. Are you just pretending to be stupid?


Actually, it can. I am pretty damn sure that Jeff can identify my IP address since I'm on this site all the freaking time AND I report spam to him all the time. So, I think you might be the one pretending to be stupid. Or maybe just not pretending.


+1
Anonymous
Post 09/21/2013 19:57     Subject: Nanny/infant - was this negligent?

Anonymous wrote:oh and I've reported it.


Stop reporting posts that don't even sound trollish. Jeff will get annoyed by your constant whining. You're ridiculous and annoying, NOT Op.
Anonymous
Post 09/21/2013 15:57     Subject: Nanny/infant - was this negligent?

Every moment is a teaching moment. Your daughter fell from a sitting position on a carpeted floor. That is not going to hurt her, just be momentarily uncomfortable. Nanny provided comfort and reassurance and prepared to move on with their day, teaching baby that she can rebound from setbacks. You swooped in and taught baby 1) a minor setback is a major deal requiring massive emotional energy, and 2) the nanny is not good enough to comfort her; only Mommy can provide comfort. Who is serving baby's real interests here?
Anonymous
Post 09/21/2013 11:47     Subject: Nanny/infant - was this negligent?

Anonymous wrote:OP here. You're insane. I KNOW babies fall over all of the time. My point is, if you know a baby isn't able to sit up yet on its own, why would you leave the baby in that position unattended?


The baby was not unattended. You said the nanny was in the room looking for some clothes. There is a big difference between being attentive and hovering. It sounds like you want the nanny to hover over the baby until she is sitting with 100% reliability.

I agree that putting a pillow or something by the baby is reasonable, but then you'd have to surround the baby with pillows if falling is a big concern because they don't just fall backwards.

What happens when your daughter starts pulling up on furniture, cruising, and walking? She will fall, many times, and she'll learn to be more steady through practice. No one likes to hear a baby cry, but it will happen as they make progress with their physical development. It will even happen as she gets older and tries out new things.

Heck, about a month or two ago one of my 6-year-olds went through a period of about 3-4 weeks in which he fell off his bike (2-wheeler) nearly every time he rode it...and he's known how to ride it for over a year. He cried and bled a lot...knees, elbows, hands, chin, back, thighs, etc.... We just rolled with it and stocked up on band-aids b/c we didn't want to stop him from doing something important to his physical development and energy release. We joked about needing to put more padding on him, but common sense told us this was part of childhood.

This was a normal baby fall, not negligence. If your daughter had fallen down the stairs or off a counter it would be bigger cause for concern...and even the stair thing happens to many kids.
Anonymous
Post 09/21/2013 11:05     Subject: Nanny/infant - was this negligent?

Anonymous wrote:OP here. You're insane. I KNOW babies fall over all of the time. My point is, if you know a baby isn't able to sit up yet on its own, why would you leave the baby in that position unattended?


How do you know what really even happened prior OP?? I thought you were working.
Anonymous
Post 09/21/2013 11:02     Subject: Nanny/infant - was this negligent?

OP, I am a mother and trust me...my kids have fallen down and cried much more than twice in two weeks!! Esp. at that age!!! Man...If someone were keeping track of all the times my kids fell down, hit their heads, scraped their legs, etc...in a day, week...whatever...wow.

Your first mistake was going in there and interfering w/your nanny's duties. By you going in there and comforting your child, you took the authority away from your nanny, thus undermining her job. Shame on you. I would have been furious if I were her. I would have walked out on you and told you to take care of your baby yourself.

You hired her to care for your baby so you could WORK, right? Well then, let her do her job and you do yours. Plain and simple. Pretend they are not even there.

So many parents claim they are working, yet their ears are always tuned into what the nanny is doing or is not doing.

I don't get it. So lame.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2013 22:33     Subject: Nanny/infant - was this negligent?

I agree with PPs. I think this is a major over reaction and I would probably want to get out of the house with the little one as well.. Babies fall, it happens. She had her on a carpet which is a relatively safe area I was assume. I do not see this as irresponsible at all.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2013 20:39     Subject: Nanny/infant - was this negligent?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes overreaction. Babies fall over. Ask her to put a pillow/boppy behind her while she's still wobbly and move on. Your nanny was defensive because you were acting like a helicopter mom. And your kid continued to cry because your actions told her there was something to be upset about. Let your nanny do her job.


This. DS falls over a lot (that's how he learns and so far has been early with everything) and he looks to us for a reaction. If we laugh or do something silly, he laughs or just continues on doing something else. If we freak out, he freaks out. We can tell when he's actually hurt vs when he's crying as a reaction to us. I can't imagine what you will be like when your baby starts to walk.


I'm an MB, agree with these two PPs 100%.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2013 14:00     Subject: Re:Nanny/infant - was this negligent?

Anonymous wrote:OMG OP I would be out of there as soon as I could if you were my boss - and I have worked happily for WAH parents before! You are helicoptering and interfering and no kidding your nanny was defensive, you aren't allowing her to do her job and your distress was working up the baby. You need to make a promise to yourself and your nanny that you will not leave your office to intervene for anything short of panicked adult screams.


+1

You sound nuts, OP. Simmer down. If you can't trust your nanny and quit interfering while shes doing her job, you shouldn't have one.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2013 13:47     Subject: Nanny/infant - was this negligent?

OP, I know it's heartbreaking to hear your baby cry for any reason, but rest assured that your daughter has many, many MANY falls in front her before she reaches the time when you will begin to freak out about something else. If she isn't sitting securely yet, obviously she has TRIED to sit, or else she wouldn't fall (assuming it wasn't the nanny who put her into a sitting position). Part of learning new skills is doing it badly the first few times. If you worry about falling and trauma, put a rug in the room and have the baby sit on the rug so it's not painful to fall.

My DS spent the first 15 months of his life pretty much full-time on the living floor rug. I don't even know how many times he keeled over, must have been hundreds. Let them. Babies fall. They get up.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2013 12:24     Subject: Re:Nanny/infant - was this negligent?

Anonymous wrote:OMG OP I would be out of there as soon as I could if you were my boss - and I have worked happily for WAH parents before! You are helicoptering and interfering and no kidding your nanny was defensive, you aren't allowing her to do her job and your distress was working up the baby. You need to make a promise to yourself and your nanny that you will not leave your office to intervene for anything short of panicked adult screams.

Nanny should get another job where she's truly needed.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2013 12:07     Subject: Re:Nanny/infant - was this negligent?

OMG OP I would be out of there as soon as I could if you were my boss - and I have worked happily for WAH parents before! You are helicoptering and interfering and no kidding your nanny was defensive, you aren't allowing her to do her job and your distress was working up the baby. You need to make a promise to yourself and your nanny that you will not leave your office to intervene for anything short of panicked adult screams.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2013 11:50     Subject: Nanny/infant - was this negligent?

You're overreacting. You have a looong road ahead of you in terms of coping with your child's capacity to endanger themselves! (I mean that gently, as a mom of toddlers who scare the daylights out of me daily. Wait until your daughter flips herself off the couch or bed right onto her head. Wait until she starts climbing up on the tables and dressers. Wait until she can open doors, unplug appliances, reach the stove, etc...)

Ask the nanny to try to keep pillows around her until your daughter has a better sense of balance.

Be very careful about the way the nanny may be perceiving your concern. I'm not saying you're wrong to comfort your child, or worry about her well-being, etc... But if I were the nanny in this situation I imagine I would feel your concern and disapproval and be pretty defensive myself. Also, you're training your daughter to circumvent the nanny and look for you. The work from home thing is a really difficult thing to regulate - not just for the nanny.

Anonymous
Post 09/20/2013 11:37     Subject: Nanny/infant - was this negligent?

I don't see the problem. You said she fell two weeks ago and then today. Perhaps the baby sat just fine unassisted for those two weeks and then todays fall wa sout of the ordinary for whatnshe ha dbeen doing. How long does nanny have to put a pillow behind her? Is this an indefinite set up...because she could sit just fine for two weeks or a month and then fall out of the blue because she lost her balance for some reason. Your baby is fine. Theres no harm in her bonking the back of her head from a sitting position.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2013 11:04     Subject: Nanny/infant - was this negligent?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Huh? I'm absolutely not a troll, and Jeff can verify that.

It can not be verified. Lots of people have more than one device. Are you just pretending to be stupid?


Actually, it can. I am pretty damn sure that Jeff can identify my IP address since I'm on this site all the freaking time AND I report spam to him all the time. So, I think you might be the one pretending to be stupid. Or maybe just not pretending.

How do you prove that you post from only one device?