Anonymous
08/24/2013 13:25
Subject: Will my nanny find another job?
Who in the legal system cares?
Anonymous
08/24/2013 12:44
Subject: Re:Will my nanny find another job?
Anonymous
OP, I came on here b/c I am in the same situation as you and wanted to get some guidance on how to handle the situation, except that ours lied to us and told she was legal and we were in a real bind so we hired her right away without looking into her background very deeply. Our kids LOVE her and she is amazing, without her, we would not be able to go to work knowing that our kids are loved and well taken care of. Some of the comments here have made me feel better about my decision. Posters are absolutely right, it is a lot of risk for a family to take and she is affecting the wages of a legal person. Our budget cannot sustain having her at 40 hours a week now that our kids are starting private school in September.
We have been really stressed out since we found out that she is illegal and her whole family is too. I have posted ads for her, not mentioning her legal status, I'm leaving that up to the next family. As for pay, I'm sorry but she will have to figure something out, she took the risk to stay here illegally. We have paid $900/week as well because she also runs our household (cleaning, groceries, cooking, laundry) in addition to child care. How she will manage is not my concern anymore, its up to her and God now. I hope she saved most of what she earned from us to hold her over as she pieces together various jobs to survive, but that is the life of an illegal in this country.
My plan is to phase her out slowly from 5 days to 3 days and then 2 days. I'm doing this more for my kids and minimal disruption to my job, otherwise I would have terminated her as soon as I found out about her status. My question now is, how much notice before the drastic reduction in hours. Is one month enough?
She lied to you about her status? This means both of you filled out the I9 fraudulently? For me, this would be a firing offense.
Anonymous
08/24/2013 12:29
Subject: Will my nanny find another job?
The law doesn't seem to much care about this area of lawbreaking, unfortunately.
Anonymous
08/24/2013 12:24
Subject: Re:Will my nanny find another job?
Anonymous wrote:I'm doing this more for my kids and minimal disruption to my job, otherwise I would have terminated her as soon as I found out about her status. My question now is, how much notice before the drastic reduction in hours. Is one month enough?
You were not paying taxes before you found out she was in this country illegally, right? Why is it ok for you to break the law for your convenience, but not ok for her to break the law to survive?
Anonymous
08/24/2013 11:24
Subject: Will my nanny find another job?
Anonymous wrote:Why were you paying so much, OP?
Each person has a right to determine the value of any given service or product, as they see fit.
Anonymous
08/24/2013 05:06
Subject: Will my nanny find another job?
Why were you paying so much, OP?
Anonymous
08/23/2013 19:57
Subject: Re:Will my nanny find another job?
OP, I came on here b/c I am in the same situation as you and wanted to get some guidance on how to handle the situation, except that ours lied to us and told she was legal and we were in a real bind so we hired her right away without looking into her background very deeply. Our kids LOVE her and she is amazing, without her, we would not be able to go to work knowing that our kids are loved and well taken care of. Some of the comments here have made me feel better about my decision. Posters are absolutely right, it is a lot of risk for a family to take and she is affecting the wages of a legal person. Our budget cannot sustain having her at 40 hours a week now that our kids are starting private school in September.
We have been really stressed out since we found out that she is illegal and her whole family is too. I have posted ads for her, not mentioning her legal status, I'm leaving that up to the next family. As for pay, I'm sorry but she will have to figure something out, she took the risk to stay here illegally. We have paid $900/week as well because she also runs our household (cleaning, groceries, cooking, laundry) in addition to child care. How she will manage is not my concern anymore, its up to her and God now. I hope she saved most of what she earned from us to hold her over as she pieces together various jobs to survive, but that is the life of an illegal in this country.
My plan is to phase her out slowly from 5 days to 3 days and then 2 days. I'm doing this more for my kids and minimal disruption to my job, otherwise I would have terminated her as soon as I found out about her status. My question now is, how much notice before the drastic reduction in hours. Is one month enough?
We have been really stressed out since we found out that she is illegal and her whole family is too. I have posted ads for her, not mentioning her legal status, I'm leaving that up to the next family. As for pay, I'm sorry but she will have to figure something out, she took the risk to stay here illegally. We have paid $900/week as well because she also runs our household (cleaning, groceries, cooking, laundry) in addition to child care. How she will manage is not my concern anymore, its up to her and God now. I hope she saved most of what she earned from us to hold her over as she pieces together various jobs to survive, but that is the life of an illegal in this country.
My plan is to phase her out slowly from 5 days to 3 days and then 2 days. I'm doing this more for my kids and minimal disruption to my job, otherwise I would have terminated her as soon as I found out about her status. My question now is, how much notice before the drastic reduction in hours. Is one month enough?
Anonymous
08/23/2013 18:23
Subject: Re:Will my nanny find another job?
I would not hire her. I pay about as much to our nanny now ON the books. our nanny is a wonderful and hardworking person. I do not like the fact that when our children grow and she is on the job market again she will have to compete with the illegal persons who drive her wages down and do not pay taxes.
Anonymous
08/23/2013 17:09
Subject: Re:Will my nanny find another job?
If she wants to make the same amount she'll need to switch to providing once a week housecleaning services. This is where she would work really, really hard to clean an entire house in 3-4 hours and make $125-$150 a cleaning. She would need 6 of these jobs in one week to make $950. She wouldn't have vacation or paid leave but she could take on evening or afternoon babysitting to make extra money to cover her vacation time off.
Anonymous
08/23/2013 12:01
Subject: Will my nanny find another job?
Wow, OP. If she wants $950 a week and four weeks vacation, she is definitely going to have difficulty. There aren't very many families who can even afford to pay someone $50,000 a year and four weeks of vacation and that small pool will be even further reduced by those who wouldn't want to be concerned that this is illegal (and therefore, professionally and personally dangerous) and risking having a nanny who could be deported at any time. She is lucky she found your family and I'm glad she's been so great to you. You can help her find another job and give her a long notice, but otherwise, it sounds like she's going to have to lower her requirement quite a bit.
Anonymous
08/23/2013 11:42
Subject: Will my nanny find another job?
As others have said your nanny is going to have a very difficult time finidng a job that comes close to the situation she has with your family. Her immigration status will be a big issue for many families. The salary she is looking for prices her out of many jobs on the market. That's a really large salary and not doable for many families. She's also limiting her option by requiring cash b/c families who have to pay legally won't be able to consider her. That's already three things working against her.
She will definitely have an uphill battle, but don't let that deter you from doing what you need to do for your family. I think the poster who suggested helping her piece together a few p/t positions was on to something. It will be much easier for her to ask for cash and a high hourly wage combined with her illegal status if she were looking for p/t positions.
She will definitely have an uphill battle, but don't let that deter you from doing what you need to do for your family. I think the poster who suggested helping her piece together a few p/t positions was on to something. It will be much easier for her to ask for cash and a high hourly wage combined with her illegal status if she were looking for p/t positions.
Anonymous
08/23/2013 11:00
Subject: Will my nanny find another job?
OP, I agree w/ the other posters about the costs and risks. I pay our nanny less than you are paying and she is a citizen, drives, is paid on the books (all relevant taxes etc...) and we adore her. She's a fantastic nanny.
I wouldn't hire your nanny, no matter how great she is, given the cost and legality issues.
Sorry.
Perhaps you can help her piece together jobs that might work. If you kept her in a very part-time capacity for household management kinds of things, and helped her find some part-time nannying or housekeeping she might be able to put together close to what she's earning now in a capacity where people will be less uncomfortably paying someone who isn't legal.
I wouldn't hire your nanny, no matter how great she is, given the cost and legality issues.
Sorry.
Perhaps you can help her piece together jobs that might work. If you kept her in a very part-time capacity for household management kinds of things, and helped her find some part-time nannying or housekeeping she might be able to put together close to what she's earning now in a capacity where people will be less uncomfortably paying someone who isn't legal.
Anonymous
08/23/2013 09:54
Subject: Will my nanny find another job?
Anonymous wrote:Since when does anyone care about the law being broken this way? If you really cared, PP, you'd report your own neighbors who are paying their domestic help off the books.
why are you speaking for everyone? I am curious as to whether this line could be used when you are caught doing it
Anonymous
08/23/2013 09:50
Subject: Will my nanny find another job?
Anonymous wrote:Yes, OP, she will have a difficult time finding something that pays $950/week. As PPs have stated, the $950/week starting salary jobs aren't easy to come by. If a family is offering that much, they will be able to find a fabulous nanny who is legal, able to drive the kids, etc.
She is going to have to lower her expectations big time.
+1
Look at it from a family perspective. By hiring an illegal I am assuming risk. It does not make sense to pay this salary
Personally, I would not do not want to be in the business of breaking the law
Anonymous
08/23/2013 09:01
Subject: Will my nanny find another job?
Yes, OP, she will have a difficult time finding something that pays $950/week. As PPs have stated, the $950/week starting salary jobs aren't easy to come by. If a family is offering that much, they will be able to find a fabulous nanny who is legal, able to drive the kids, etc.
She is going to have to lower her expectations big time.
She is going to have to lower her expectations big time.