Anonymous
Post 09/07/2013 19:44     Subject: "Domestic Worker Laws" in NY, MD, CA

Yes I have sick leave and I offer it to my nanny too. I also would not disagree with making a certain number of hours of sick leave legally required for all workers. (Again I already offer this to my employees so I agree it is good to offer.) What I object to is requiring just nanny employers to give sick leave and no other employers - why is that right?
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2013 12:42     Subject: "Domestic Worker Laws" in NY, MD, CA

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Rightly so because these laws are trying to single outs nannies for benefits that other hourly workers do not get. I think that is not right. If you want to mandate sick leave for all FT employees then fine or min wage of a certain amt for all fine. But the domestic worker laws single out nanny employers to impose things on them that no other hourly worker employers have to do. That seems unfair.
FWIW I do give a pretty standard package - rate well above min of course, paid sick and vacation, guaranteed hrs, gas money etc so it is not about trying to do less personally. It is about disliking the singling out.

Do you have sick leave, 6:42?

Sick leave benefits should be only for wealthy people?
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2013 09:56     Subject: "Domestic Worker Laws" in NY, MD, CA

Anonymous wrote:Rightly so because these laws are trying to single outs nannies for benefits that other hourly workers do not get. I think that is not right. If you want to mandate sick leave for all FT employees then fine or min wage of a certain amt for all fine. But the domestic worker laws single out nanny employers to impose things on them that no other hourly worker employers have to do. That seems unfair.
FWIW I do give a pretty standard package - rate well above min of course, paid sick and vacation, guaranteed hrs, gas money etc so it is not about trying to do less personally. It is about disliking the singling out.

Do you have sick leave, 6:42?
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2013 06:42     Subject: "Domestic Worker Laws" in NY, MD, CA

Rightly so because these laws are trying to single outs nannies for benefits that other hourly workers do not get. I think that is not right. If you want to mandate sick leave for all FT employees then fine or min wage of a certain amt for all fine. But the domestic worker laws single out nanny employers to impose things on them that no other hourly worker employers have to do. That seems unfair.
FWIW I do give a pretty standard package - rate well above min of course, paid sick and vacation, guaranteed hrs, gas money etc so it is not about trying to do less personally. It is about disliking the singling out.
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2013 01:20     Subject: "Domestic Worker Laws" in NY, MD, CA

All the agencies (that I know of) absolutely HATE the domestic worker protection laws.
Anonymous
Post 09/06/2013 23:15     Subject: "Domestic Worker Laws" in NY, MD, CA

Anonymous wrote:She's just trying to get traffic to her site. Here is a link to the official one:

http://www6.montgomerycountymd.gov/ocptmpl.asp?url=/content/ocp/domestic/contract.asp


Thank you, PP, for the link. It works perfectly.
It is an excellent resource for the all to use. The contract is even is available in French and Spanish.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2013 12:15     Subject: "Domestic Worker Laws" in NY, MD, CA

She's just trying to get traffic to her site. Here is a link to the official one:

http://www6.montgomerycountymd.gov/ocptmpl.asp?url=/content/ocp/domestic/contract.asp
webbkathy
Post 08/28/2013 11:10     Subject: "Domestic Worker Laws" in NY, MD, CA

FWIW these are PDFs of the Montgomery County documents that they published. No opinion or commentary. In my experience trying to keep links current to .gov websites is an exercise in futility, as they are constantly moving stuff around.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2013 02:00     Subject: "Domestic Worker Laws" in NY, MD, CA

Thanks, but it's best to get it straight from the .gov site.
webbkathy
Post 08/27/2013 10:11     Subject: "Domestic Worker Laws" in NY, MD, CA

You can find the Montgomery County links here:

http://www.4nannytaxes.com/index.cfm/resources/forms/

Anonymous
Post 08/16/2013 18:22     Subject: "Domestic Worker Laws" in NY, MD, CA

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Having read thru the Montgomery requirements the primary responsibilities seem to be: pay wages for all hrs worked, pay OT as needed over 40 hours, pay at least minimum wage, comply with minimum housing requirements. Put in place a contract that addresses several elements even if you opt not to provide those elements as benefits/perks. The former issues seem to simply try to she's light on existing obligations. The real new part is to do a Conrad t that covers the relevant items specified. That contract could simy say though "we are not offering Paid sick or vacation time" as opposed to the model contract suggestions of paid PTO for both. I think it is unfortunate that the benefits part of the model contract was written in a way that specifies things not actually required by the law since that to me seems very misleading.


The spirit of the requirement and the model contract was to protect the domestic workers. The model contracts "models" what was decided was a fair working agreement. I don't think its misleading at all. If someone isn't smart enough to figure out what is and is not required of them, they probably should just go with the model. Not offering any PTO is pretty messed up.

Can someone please share the link to the Montgomery County MD model contract?

From the .gov website?
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2013 20:59     Subject: "Domestic Worker Laws" in NY, MD, CA

4nannytaxes > resources > forms and templates

Can't copy/paste on my phone :-/
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2013 20:42     Subject: "Domestic Worker Laws" in NY, MD, CA

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Having read thru the Montgomery requirements the primary responsibilities seem to be: pay wages for all hrs worked, pay OT as needed over 40 hours, pay at least minimum wage, comply with minimum housing requirements. Put in place a contract that addresses several elements even if you opt not to provide those elements as benefits/perks. The former issues seem to simply try to she's light on existing obligations. The real new part is to do a Conrad t that covers the relevant items specified. That contract could simy say though "we are not offering Paid sick or vacation time" as opposed to the model contract suggestions of paid PTO for both. I think it is unfortunate that the benefits part of the model contract was written in a way that specifies things not actually required by the law since that to me seems very misleading.


The spirit of the requirement and the model contract was to protect the domestic workers. The model contracts "models" what was decided was a fair working agreement. I don't think its misleading at all. If someone isn't smart enough to figure out what is and is not required of them, they probably should just go with the model. Not offering any PTO is pretty messed up.

Can someone please share the link to the Montgomery County MD model contract?
webbkathy
Post 08/15/2013 12:37     Subject: "Domestic Worker Laws" in NY, MD, CA

FYI we publish state-specific information sheets for each of these states. You can download from here:

http://www.4nannytaxes.com/index.cfm/resources/news-and-updates/household-employment-rules-by-state/

Kathy Webb
HomeWork Solutions Inc.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2013 22:38     Subject: "Domestic Worker Laws" in NY, MD, CA

I am the above commenter who dislikes the model contract. I do offer PTO and guaranteed hours and all but the contract leans towards slightly above avg (especially considering it would be used by PT nannies too) and I think tries to give people the impression that some of this stuff is required. That is wrong in my view.