nannydebsays
Post 07/25/2013 14:41     Subject: "Meals-While-Working-Stipend"
Really? A tax free food stipend? Taking the food issue from the mundane to the utterly ridiculous isn't helping anyone.
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2013 13:53     Subject: "Meals-While-Working-Stipend"
Anonymous wrote:When you choose to hire a nanny on the clock all day, you pay for her meals while she's working.


That's something you need to factor in when negotiating salary. A stipend seperate from pay, to specifically pay for food makes no sense.
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2013 13:47     Subject: "Meals-While-Working-Stipend"
When you choose to hire a nanny on the clock all day, you pay for her meals while she's working.
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2013 13:43     Subject: "Meals-While-Working-Stipend"
Their paycheck is their stipend. When you choose this line of work you know no breaks.
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2013 12:14     Subject: "Meals-While-Working-Stipend"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, why do you think a stipend will solve the no lunch break problem? I'm not understanding this post. If nanny can't leave the house, she still needs to come to work prepared with everything she needs for the day (including food).


When people have to bring to work "everything they need for the day (including food)", they are usually independant contractors, not your employees. Of course there are other requirements as well, before you jump to any conclusions.

Generally, the fewer employee benefits you provide, the less clear it is that you have an employee.
Again, these details are only part of a bigger picture.


You haven't answered my question and you're not making any sense.

Not having a formal lunch break is just what happens when you are the sole caregiver all day. You seem very resentful of this, perhaps nannying just isn't the right job for you.
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2013 12:01     Subject: Re:"Meals-While-Working-Stipend"
Can we please just get over it? Some employers are Awesome and welcome you to food or will pay for your lunches. Some suck an refuse to even allow you a bathroom break - don't like the latter? Don't take the job. I'm a nanny and so sick of hearing all of you whiny, self absorbed pitty me nannies bitching. Get the f*** over it.
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2013 11:39     Subject: "Meals-While-Working-Stipend"
Whenever workers have a break, they are free to do as they wish (go out and get a meal, read a book, go jogging).

When you are confined and on call, you are still at work. Just ask hospital residents.
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2013 11:35     Subject: "Meals-While-Working-Stipend"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, why do you think a stipend will solve the no lunch break problem? I'm not understanding this post. If nanny can't leave the house, she still needs to come to work prepared with everything she needs for the day (including food).


When people have to bring to work "everything they need for the day (including food)", they are usually independant contractors, not your employees. Of course there are other requirements as well, before you jump to any conclusions.

Generally, the fewer employee benefits you provide, the less clear it is that you have an employee.
Again, these details are only part of a bigger picture.



nothing you said is at all accurate.

Benefits don't define whether you are an employee or an IC.

I am an employee - have worked for many companies. Not a single one of them EVER provided my lunch or other meals except on rare occasions like a holiday lunch.
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2013 11:34     Subject: "Meals-While-Working-Stipend"
Anonymous wrote:What? My parents have worked white-collar office jobs for 30+ years and have always brought their own lunches. The only exception would be if the bosses took them out or if they were taking clients to lunch.

They had a lunch break.
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2013 11:29     Subject: "Meals-While-Working-Stipend"
What? My parents have worked white-collar office jobs for 30+ years and have always brought their own lunches. The only exception would be if the bosses took them out or if they were taking clients to lunch.
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2013 11:07     Subject: "Meals-While-Working-Stipend"
Anonymous wrote:OP, why do you think a stipend will solve the no lunch break problem? I'm not understanding this post. If nanny can't leave the house, she still needs to come to work prepared with everything she needs for the day (including food).


When people have to bring to work "everything they need for the day (including food)", they are usually independant contractors, not your employees. Of course there are other requirements as well, before you jump to any conclusions.

Generally, the fewer employee benefits you provide, the less clear it is that you have an employee.
Again, these details are only part of a bigger picture.
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2013 10:59     Subject: "Meals-While-Working-Stipend"
Anonymous wrote:
Parents who want nannies not to touch their food, should have dedicated refrigerator and cabinet for a FT nanny. Also, since nannies do not have a break time all day, they must therefore have meals on the clock. As such, the nanny's food should not be taxable. Parents should have a separate weekly meal stipend or envelope, for the nanny.

The amount should be based on the number of meal times she is working in your home. If she leaves her house at 6:30am and gets home at 7:30pm, plan accordingly. Many FT nannies are at work for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. It's often near impossible to have much of a personal life with so many hours at work, not to mention commuting to where her wages can afford rent. Nanny's cooking would most likely have to be at work.


I used to work very long hours, yet somehow managed to eat breakfast before I got to work and dinner after I left.

My kid sleeps 2.5 hours in the afternoon of my nanny's 8-9 hour workday. My nanny takes lunch and is off the clock for a portion of that time. if something happens and she doesn't get "her" time I pay her accordingly. i don't MIND providing her food (same food kid would eat) but i'm certainly not REQUIRED to do so. Nor would I allocate pantry space. If - like most jobs - she brought lunch, she could certainly put a lunchbox in th fridge, but I'd expect her to take it home with her each day.
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2013 10:34     Subject: "Meals-While-Working-Stipend"
OP, why do you think a stipend will solve the no lunch break problem? I'm not understanding this post. If nanny can't leave the house, she still needs to come to work prepared with everything she needs for the day (including food).
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2013 10:29     Subject: "Meals-While-Working-Stipend"
When your job requires you to have a "working lunch", your employer pays for it, FYI.
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2013 10:27     Subject: "Meals-While-Working-Stipend"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm the pp who suggested a babysitter instead of a nanny. Yes a daily stipend is ridiculous. If you want to have the benefit of "comping business lunches" you need to work for a company- not a family.


+1 I get the sense that nannies who feel as though they should have meals provided for them have never worked in any other business setting. "Business lunches" happen when you are taking a client out, or your boss it treating, it's not as though people who have office jobs are out to lunch every day saying "Throw it on the company card". Aside from "office settings" few professions provide business lunches AT ALL. You bring your own food, maybe you are lucky enough to have a fridge stocked with some beverages and a coffee maker, but this is not standard nor expected. If nannies want to start being treated as professionals, they need to start acting that way (Hint: professionals act like adults who are capable of feeding themselves, they don't expect someone else's mother to buy their food).


Hint: It's no secret that office workers routinely have a lunch break.