Anonymous
08/01/2013 09:42
Subject: Exploitation of Domestic Employees
The OP made good points, the rest of this thread is ridiculous. The truth is that the lowest average hourly rate usually discussed/recommended here is typically around $15. That is roughly TWICE the minimum wage.
Nannying is a very hard job that takes really specific skills and interests. However, it is FAR from the most downtrodden or poorly compensated positions we have here in the US. Very far.
Nannying is a very hard job that takes really specific skills and interests. However, it is FAR from the most downtrodden or poorly compensated positions we have here in the US. Very far.
Anonymous
08/01/2013 09:15
Subject: Exploitation of Domestic Employees
Doesn't matter. That has nothing to do with the job. Many people choose jobs with long commutes. That's their business.
Why are you so interested in infantilizing nannies? It's really pretty insulting.
Why are you so interested in infantilizing nannies? It's really pretty insulting.
Anonymous
08/01/2013 08:15
Subject: Exploitation of Domestic Employees
Anonymous wrote:The time you spend commuting to and from your job does not dictate your compensation or working conditions while on the job.
In the real world, it does dictate how much time you have to cook and sleep. Didn't you know that?
Anonymous
08/01/2013 03:02
Subject: Exploitation of Domestic Employees
The time you spend commuting to and from your job does not dictate your compensation or working conditions while on the job.
Anonymous
08/01/2013 02:07
Subject: Exploitation of Domestic Employees
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The face of true domestic worker exploitation, has *many* colors.
OP here.
You're absolutely right, of course. There are many other issues not covered by these statistics, but I do think we minimize the many true problems by wasting even a breath of energy arguing about providing free food to a live-out employee.
No one said there has to be free food in the house. There simply must be available food for when your worker doesn't have any of her own and can't go out and buy herself a sandwich.
I will not allow you to derail this thread. This will be my only response to this absurdity:
Live-out nannies are not entitled to meals, although I agree it is a nice gesture. But teachers aren't allowed to leave their jobs to buy lunch, but they don't live at their jobs so they have the opportunity to buy and prepare meals for themselves ahead of time; nannies are no different.
Sorry to disappoint you, but there's nothing absurd about having food available for your FT worker who has no access to any of her own food or even to go out and buy herself an apple. You forgot that teachers and even hospital doctors and nurses have onsite access to cafeterias.
Slavery is outlawed. You may not starve your worker who hasn't brought her own food into your house.
Why is this even an argument for you? What kind of human being would not welcome your child's caregiver to make herself a sandwich at her workplace in your house?
A teacher doesn't get to eat in the cafeteria where the kids eat. And yes, if doctors and nurses work in a hospital they have access to a cafeteria but what about those doctors who don't work in a hospital? Not all doctors work in places with food available and most don't have time to leave the building to buy lunch. So they bring their lunch.
FWIW I don't have any problem with my nanny eating my food, she usually brings her lunch though and just snacks on what we have. I think it would be weird to tell the nanny she could never touch our food or if she forgot her lunch she should be able to make something from our food but I also think it would be weird if she never brought her own lunch and always expected me to provide hers.
What hrs is the nanny at your house and what's her am and pm commuting time?
Anonymous
07/21/2013 19:42
Subject: Exploitation of Domestic Employees
For crying out loud. OP pointed out some real problems and all PP can focus on is this crazy non-problem of the .01% of employers who would tell a nanny who forgot her lunch "too bad tough luck!"
Anonymous
07/21/2013 16:09
Subject: Exploitation of Domestic Employees
Human rights isn't about liking your food.
It's about *having access* to edible food.
It's about *having access* to edible food.
Anonymous
07/21/2013 16:06
Subject: Exploitation of Domestic Employees
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"What are you talking about? Teachers can absolutely leave their school on their lunch hour."
No, most public school teachers can't leave campus on their lunch period, which is normally 20-30 min, not an hour.
+1
Not sure how it works in private schools, but as a public school teacher we certainly were not allowed to leave. We also never ate at the cafeteria because it was horrible.
You don't eat in the cafeteria because you don't like the food. That's different than not being allowed to eat there.
Exactly!