Anonymous wrote:I obviously believe dystopian literature is a subgenre of science fiction, and you left off a couple dystopias from your complaint (1984, A Clockwork Orange) anyway. But regardless, if you seriously want to argue that this entire genre of literature is worthless, if you can't appreciate the conversations, debates, inventions and ingenuity that stem from science fiction writers, then you either aren't very smart or haven't read enough regardless of your "three" degrees.

Actually, I did NOT leave out 1984 - it's clearly listed in my post. I did leave out A Clockwork Orange because I've never read it and choose not to comment on novels I've never read. And I am NOT trying to argue that the genre is worthless. Clearly, you are still missing the point (regarding the rights of people to have opinions). People can also argue the literary merit of paranormal romance if they choose, but that doesn't mean I HAVE to believe that Twilight is a literary masterpiece. If you choose to believe that anyone who does not share your views is without intelligence, that's your right, though I feel sorry for you, as you obviously have not grasped the point of my post AT ALL and have instead chosen to harp on an example/analogy intended to support THAT point, not to kick off a discussion about genre fiction (BTW, this may shock you, but some critics/scholars believe that most/all genre fiction is without literary merit, a view that I do not share but understand). Not sure why you put "three" in quotes, unless you assume that three is a make-believe number, or that I do not actually have those degrees?

Ah well. I see no reason to argue this further with you, as it is not worth the time. THIS is EXACTLY why I would NOT go on my writers group and call science fiction stupid -- read that again, please - would NOT. THAT was my original post. That I WOULD NOT do so. I wouldn't do it there and see no need to do it here.

If you're still experiencing confusion, though, PLEASE go back and re-read my original post. Substitute "sci-fi" for something YOU personally do not value. Then, perhaps, you will comprehend the initial point. Thanks.

I obviously believe dystopian literature is a subgenre of science fiction, and you left off a couple dystopias from your complaint (1984, A Clockwork Orange) anyway. But regardless, if you seriously want to argue that this entire genre of literature is worthless, if you can't appreciate the conversations, debates, inventions and ingenuity that stem from science fiction writers, then you either aren't very smart or haven't read enough regardless of your "three" degrees.

The Handmaid's Tale, 1984 and Fahrenheit 451 are actually more often (and more accurately) considered DYSTOPIAN fiction than science fiction. Some argue that dystopian is part of science fiction, whereas other scholars argue that it is a separate genre. Just so you're aware.

And I still think you're missing two key things. First, what I wrote was that I, PERSONALLY, consider it a worthless genre (so no need to act as though I called every book on your list stupid, as I did no such thing). Secondly, the point, which I (mistakingly?) thought was obvious, was that different people have different opinions/value different things and there is no need to be immature/mocking/rude when you disagree with someone (obviously, you strongly disagree with that statement too).

To further clarify, in case there is still confusion, I've read several of those books because they were required in high school, college, or graduate school (I have three writing related degrees, btw). What I said was (I'll spell it out, as I assume you have comprehension issues) though I do NOT like the genre, and have NEVER read a science fiction book that I have been able to enjoy or have felt changed by, I do NOT go online and tell others who are into it that it is stupid. That's what I mean by "I believe that sci-fi is a completely worthless genre, but when someone posts about sci-fi novels on my fiction writers forum, I see no reason to tell them how stupid it is." Just as some critics feel that The Great Gatsby and A Farewell to Arms are not fantastic works of classic lit, there are some of us in this world who simply cannot understand why anyone gets excited to read about completely unrealistic things like science fiction.

Like I said, though, you are free to not take me seriously, though your reasoning makes no sense at all, unless of course it is your belief that in order to be valued everyone must like everything you like?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: I believe that sci-fi is a completely worthless genre, but when someone posts about sci-fi novels on my fiction writers forum, I see no reason to tell them how stupid it is.

If you would call science-fiction stupid you can't be taken seriously.

I suppose you've never heard of "opinion." Everyone has their own. But I don'd mind that you don't take me seriously. My agent and editor do, and that's what's important to a new author. Thanks though.

For your consideration, a sampling of titles from this "stupid" genre:

20,000 Leagues Under the Sea
1984
Fahrenheit 451
A Wrinkle in Time
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
A Clockwork Orange
Frankenstein
The Handmaid's Tale
The Invisible Man
Neuromancer
Stranger in a Strange Land
Cat's Cradle


Those are stupid? Nope. Can't take you seriously.

Don't, not don'd. I have learned to take autocorrect for granted :-/

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Anonymous wrote: I believe that sci-fi is a completely worthless genre, but when someone posts about sci-fi novels on my fiction writers forum, I see no reason to tell them how stupid it is.

If you would call science-fiction stupid you can't be taken seriously.

I suppose you've never heard of "opinion." Everyone has their own. But I don'd mind that you don't take me seriously. My agent and editor do, and that's what's important to a new author. Thanks though.

Anonymous wrote: I believe that sci-fi is a completely worthless genre, but when someone posts about sci-fi novels on my fiction writers forum, I see no reason to tell them how stupid it is.

If you would call science-fiction stupid you can't be taken seriously.

You should consider changing the name the magazine/website. "Nanny Magazine" sounds.... hmm I can't put my finger in it.

I'm a nanny (over ten years) and former Special Education teacher with no children of my own. I subscribed to Parents Magazine for years and years because I liked the articles, suggestions, the recommendations, the funny things kids say, etc. I think a magazine just for nannies is a great idea.

Personally, and I know I'm probably in the minority, I'd rather read something in print (I will NEVER own a Kindle or e-reader and prefer an actual newspaper to a news site). That said, I think it's more likely that the website will be where any future success lies.

Why the mocking/animosity from some posters, though? If you don't like the concept of the magazine, don't read it. If you don't want to help fund it, don't contribute to the Kickstarter campaign. I believe that sci-fi is a completely worthless genre, but when someone posts about sci-fi novels on my fiction writers forum, I see no reason to tell them how stupid it is.

Anonymous wrote:I remember rolling your eyes when you first brought up this idea. After looking at your website and those atrocious tshirts, I'm doing some serious eye rolling. How much of your money have you invested in this?

lmao agreed

I remember rolling your eyes when you first brought up this idea. After looking at your website and those atrocious tshirts, I'm doing some serious eye rolling. How much of your money have you invested in this?

Anonymous wrote:I type some thing wrong because I was on my phone.

Oh your phone is the reason your last post sounded like you were a fucking moron? Ok!

Anonymous wrote:I would stay away from the magazine idea. Magazines and newspapers are dying out, and it would be a lot of work to get hardly anything out of it. Stick to a website.

+1

No one really buys magazines anymore especially ones geared to a very specific field that isn't that large. Besides I get more educated information from NAEYC than I would from your idea. I'd focus on creating a website that can bring in revenue through advertisements. You need to come up with a better concept rather than lame shirts and gear.

Focus on the website. I would not pay for a nanny magazine, but I would contribute to a well-run site.

As for the tshirts, all I can ask is... what would my MB think if she saw me or her son wearing a shirt that said I'm the reason he's awesome? She and her husband are the reason he's so great, why would I ever want to take credit for him??

I would stay away from the magazine idea. Magazines and newspapers are dying out, and it would be a lot of work to get hardly anything out of it. Stick to a website.