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Anonymous wrote:Can I order me up one of these 2.5 to 3 hour nappers?? DC has a long nap if he makes it to 2 hours. 1.5 is pretty typical.

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I had no idea, but I guess I have an unusual napper. Probably because we keep her up late so she only gets about 10 hours at night.

My kid can go to bed between 9-11 (sometimes later) and will sleep till 9-10. She dropped the nap around 3. I tried everything to get her to nap and nothing worked. She'll nap in the car but that's it. You are very lucky. Everyone told me that the nap would probably drop at 3 and I was determined they were wrong. I was wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:Can I order me up one of these 2.5 to 3 hour nappers?? DC has a long nap if he makes it to 2 hours. 1.5 is pretty typical.

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I had no idea, but I guess I have an unusual napper. Probably because we keep her up late so she only gets about 10 hours at night.

Since the nanny is the one who suggested that she would take on additional duties when the older child starts school, you could ask her to suggest some things that she thinks would be helpful based on her observation of the household over the past several years.

Come 2-3, many kids drop naps. I don't see how you are upset or feeling taken advantage of. You know this is an issue, its a normal transition and you should not reduce her salary based on your changing needs. She's willing to take on more responsibility, so I'm not getting the issue. You are in the wrong. She should get her regular salary, find a new nanny or put the 2 year old in day care.

Anonymous wrote:Can I order me up one of these 2.5 to 3 hour nappers?? DC has a long nap if he makes it to 2 hours. 1.5 is pretty typical.

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Can I order me up one of these 2.5 to 3 hour nappers?? DC has a long nap if he makes it to 2 hours. 1.5 is pretty typical.

With one 2 year old, she won't have to manage two nap schedules and two sets of activity schedules. She should be able to take on a fair amount of housekeeping during the typical 2.5 to 3 hour nap each day. She could also handle family dinner prep each night while the child plays in the kitchen. That still leaves the better part of the child's awake hours for enrichment and fun.

I think it depends on what you're currently paying. A lot of MBs love to brag about the "market rate" they pay, so if you're paying less than $15/hour for one or 2 children, you should definitely expect to raise your nanny for a new child. If you're already paying $17-18 for one child, its likely not necessary, but the increased responsibility should be taken into consideration when deciding on an annual raise or annual raises/bonuses because that is certainly above and beyond her original duties.

"Every job pays more for increased responsibilities, except yours."

yes, but in most jobs, a huge part of that responsibility doesn't typically vanish in time as it does when the older child goes to school for a good chunk of each day.

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Anonymous wrote:I would argue this is part if why MBs should be reluctant to bump up the rate tons with another child. If the rate can never go down again and it is hard to add extra tasks with one still at home then this seems to really screw an MB who gives a big 2nd child increase.

This is one of the many reasons that I, as a nanny, don't believe in a raise for an additional child.

That's too crazy for a nanny to say. I don't believe you. Every job pays more for increased responsibilities, except yours.

I've said it in some other threads too, so I'm not sure why you don't believe me. I grew up in the UK where raises for new children are not customary, so that's just what I internalized about the job. In my view a nanny works for a family, not for a child. So while a family with 6 kids would hire me at a higher rate than a family with 1 child, I wouldn't expect a raise for a 2nd (or 3rd) child. I would, however, expect an annual review and possibly a raise at that meeting.

In the UK everyone knows what a nanny is, unlike here. I agree that a British nanny need not expect more money for each child. She is already handsomely compensated for the professional that she is. It's completely different there. Americans should learn a few things from them.

You make a fair point. Perhaps if I were unhappy with my compensation I would feel differently about a raise for an additional child. As it is I am well paid for my professional experience and skills (nannying and otherwise) so it doesn't feel necessary to me, but I can see why other nannies being paid the lowest possible "market rate" would be entitled to additional income with an additional child.

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Anonymous wrote:I would argue this is part if why MBs should be reluctant to bump up the rate tons with another child. If the rate can never go down again and it is hard to add extra tasks with one still at home then this seems to really screw an MB who gives a big 2nd child increase.

This is one of the many reasons that I, as a nanny, don't believe in a raise for an additional child.

That's too crazy for a nanny to say. I don't believe you. Every job pays more for increased responsibilities, except yours.

I've said it in some other threads too, so I'm not sure why you don't believe me. I grew up in the UK where raises for new children are not customary, so that's just what I internalized about the job. In my view a nanny works for a family, not for a child. So while a family with 6 kids would hire me at a higher rate than a family with 1 child, I wouldn't expect a raise for a 2nd (or 3rd) child. I would, however, expect an annual review and possibly a raise at that meeting.

In the UK everyone knows what a nanny is, unlike here. I agree that a British nanny need not expect more money for each child. She is already handsomely compensated for the professional that she is. It's completely different there. Americans should learn a few things from them.

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Anonymous wrote:I would argue this is part if why MBs should be reluctant to bump up the rate tons with another child. If the rate can never go down again and it is hard to add extra tasks with one still at home then this seems to really screw an MB who gives a big 2nd child increase.

This is one of the many reasons that I, as a nanny, don't believe in a raise for an additional child.

That's too crazy for a nanny to say. I don't believe you. Every job pays more for increased responsibilities, except yours.

I've said it in some other threads too, so I'm not sure why you don't believe me. I grew up in the UK where raises for new children are not customary, so that's just what I internalized about the job. In my view a nanny works for a family, not for a child. So while a family with 6 kids would hire me at a higher rate than a family with 1 child, I wouldn't expect a raise for a 2nd (or 3rd) child. I would, however, expect an annual review and possibly a raise at that meeting.