Anonymous
Post 05/24/2013 17:56     Subject: Re:Contract renew

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP is probably not getting a raise because the workload is reducing and the family's need for her is decreasing. From her post it doesn't sound like she has any duties beyond light nanny ones (kids laundry, cleaning up after yourself and the kids is the lowest threshold). Her charges are 3 and 5 now. $850 a week for a 3 and 5 year old is pretty close to the ceiling where most parents will start considering using before or aftercare if they are in a good preschool and school. Some parents use this time to switch to a nanny/housekeeper who provides more value and would be less than $850 a week. Other families might consider an au pair or even just a part time nanny.

I just think that its less likely that the OP is going to get $900 a week for 2 school age kids, very few duties, more time off as the 3 year increases preschool time, and additional paid holidays. Good luck if you do get it but with the ages of your charges, your rate, and low duties I would be more worried about whether they plan to keep you in the fall.


+1 It sounds like you've hit your ceiling with this family and should start looking for ways to increase your value/expand your duties or accept that its time to move on to a family that needs you. Four years is a pretty good run! There's nothing wrong with acknowledging that its time to move on.


+1
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2013 17:55     Subject: Contract renew

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Umm...that doesn't sound bad to me at all. My husband is a COO of a non fed company and those, plus July 4th,are the only holidays he gets off.


Bet he makes $17/hr too, huh?


Sorry, allow me to explain why this is a valid criticism --

I bet he only gets 2 sick days too, right?

And can only take one week of vacation at a time?

And if he got really sick and missed three or four weeks of work, he'd probably find himself destitute and struggling to pay his rent and worrying about the security of his job, right?

No?



Oh, then your comparison is irrelevant.




Actually, many professional workers get less PTO than the OP. We get paid based on performance, measured in billable hours, sales quotas, corporate earnings targets, etc. Personally, I can take off as much paid time as I need, but I have to make up every one of the hours I take off, because unless I hit my billable hour target (which is set based on an assumption of little time off), I will lose my job. My husband is self-employed. If he doesn't work, he doesn't get paid. Period.

No one is entitled to paid time off. If you want more financial security, find a new field of work.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2013 17:49     Subject: Contract renew

Anonymous wrote:Umm...that doesn't sound bad to me at all. My husband is a COO of a non fed company and those, plus July 4th,are the only holidays he gets off.


Same here. Many DC professionals work on MLK Day, Veteran's Day, Columbus Day and other minor holidays. Many retail and restaurant workers do too, and they get far less than $17 per hour for doing it. Your employer needs child care that day, and your job entails providing that coverage. Your rate of pay is irrelevant.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2013 17:43     Subject: Contract renew

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Umm...that doesn't sound bad to me at all. My husband is a COO of a non fed company and those, plus July 4th,are the only holidays he gets off.


Bet he makes $17/hr too, huh?


Sorry, allow me to explain why this is a valid criticism --

I bet he only gets 2 sick days too, right?

And can only take one week of vacation at a time?

And if he got really sick and missed three or four weeks of work, he'd probably find himself destitute and struggling to pay his rent and worrying about the security of his job, right?

No?

Oh, then your comparison is irrelevant.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2013 17:41     Subject: Contract renew

The point is Op said she only got 2 federal holidays. That is unreasonable. But she lied and the holidays she does get off are fairly reasonable. So now what does she want to ask for that is reasonable and doable instead of a raisE.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2013 17:35     Subject: Contract renew

Anonymous wrote:Umm...that doesn't sound bad to me at all. My husband is a COO of a non fed company and those, plus July 4th,are the only holidays he gets off.


Bet he makes $17/hr too, huh?
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2013 17:16     Subject: Contract renew

Umm...that doesn't sound bad to me at all. My husband is a COO of a non fed company and those, plus July 4th,are the only holidays he gets off.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2013 17:12     Subject: Re:Contract renew

Anonymous wrote:OP here ! The 5 year old start pre-K in fall 9 to 3pm the 3 year old would be with me full time. About the federal days I have memorial, labor, thanksgiving, Christmas and New Year's Day and Presidents' Day the rest of the federal I have to work. Thank you everybody!

Op, your first post said you have only two federal holidays. To many different stories to keep track of?? Which is it now?
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2013 16:16     Subject: Re:Contract renew

OP here ! The 5 year old start pre-K in fall 9 to 3pm the 3 year old would be with me full time. About the federal days I have memorial, labor, thanksgiving, Christmas and New Year's Day and Presidents' Day the rest of the federal I have to work. Thank you everybody!
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2013 10:09     Subject: Contract renew

Get a new job.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2013 10:00     Subject: Re:Contract renew

OP, it doesn't matter in the least whether your employers can AFFORD a raise. What matters is what the going rate is, whether they feel you are compensate for the services you provide, and what they feel your services are worth. Honestly, $17/hour for a 3yo and a 5yo, 2 weeks vacation, with no housekeeping duties is already on the high side salary-wise unless you have some education-related degree or tons of great experience or something else special about the service you provide. I agree that having all ten Federal holidays would be normal, so feel free to ask for that. Maybe another few days of PTO. If you got those two things, you'd have a pretty good package.

I would think that after 4 years, a family would want to hang on to their nanny and would go up a dollar in salary each year maybe. But I suspect that they're toward the end of needing you anyway since the 5yo is probably starting K this year and they probably already know that you're at the higher side of the range.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2013 09:57     Subject: Re:Contract renew

Anonymous wrote:OP is probably not getting a raise because the workload is reducing and the family's need for her is decreasing. From her post it doesn't sound like she has any duties beyond light nanny ones (kids laundry, cleaning up after yourself and the kids is the lowest threshold). Her charges are 3 and 5 now. $850 a week for a 3 and 5 year old is pretty close to the ceiling where most parents will start considering using before or aftercare if they are in a good preschool and school. Some parents use this time to switch to a nanny/housekeeper who provides more value and would be less than $850 a week. Other families might consider an au pair or even just a part time nanny.

I just think that its less likely that the OP is going to get $900 a week for 2 school age kids, very few duties, more time off as the 3 year increases preschool time, and additional paid holidays. Good luck if you do get it but with the ages of your charges, your rate, and low duties I would be more worried about whether they plan to keep you in the fall.


+1 It sounds like you've hit your ceiling with this family and should start looking for ways to increase your value/expand your duties or accept that its time to move on to a family that needs you. Four years is a pretty good run! There's nothing wrong with acknowledging that its time to move on.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2013 09:51     Subject: Re:Contract renew

OP is probably not getting a raise because the workload is reducing and the family's need for her is decreasing. From her post it doesn't sound like she has any duties beyond light nanny ones (kids laundry, cleaning up after yourself and the kids is the lowest threshold). Her charges are 3 and 5 now. $850 a week for a 3 and 5 year old is pretty close to the ceiling where most parents will start considering using before or aftercare if they are in a good preschool and school. Some parents use this time to switch to a nanny/housekeeper who provides more value and would be less than $850 a week. Other families might consider an au pair or even just a part time nanny.

I just think that its less likely that the OP is going to get $900 a week for 2 school age kids, very few duties, more time off as the 3 year increases preschool time, and additional paid holidays. Good luck if you do get it but with the ages of your charges, your rate, and low duties I would be more worried about whether they plan to keep you in the fall.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2013 21:33     Subject: Re:Contract renew

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You should have at least 10 fed holidays and 3-5 PTO days.


She has 2 weeks vacation, 2 sick days, and 2 holidays. That's 14 days. It's not that bad. If you want to negotiate for more, ask for it, but again, come up with an explanation other than "this is what I SHOULD get"


If you'll look over my post you'll see that step two in my instructions was to explain the reasons she was due for a raise/increase in benefits...so yes, she should be able to offer a strong reason to have them.

But either way, for a 50hr/wk nanny you've had for 4 years, two weeks vacation, 10-15 holidays, and 3-5 PTO days IS the bare minimum of "standard" benefits packages. In fact, I start my jobs with more time off than that - after four years with a family I'd expect significantly more (or I'd expect an annual raise).
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2013 20:42     Subject: Contract renew

Troll thread people.