Anonymous
Post 05/21/2013 19:10     Subject: Nanny camera?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what's the harm in a nanny knowing there is a camera and being super nanny everyday? I don't see the harm in letting your nanny know.


Then they'll abuse the child where there aren't cameras.


That's not what I meant. You don't have to tell her where they are or when they are used just letting her know she will be on camera in the home. You can switch locations as you please to get the best understanding, but simply letting her know they will be used does not undermind your csi investigation. If anything then you can be cheap and get one but your nanny has no clue where and how many so she will still be on her best behavior. What is the downside to the parent in such a case? They lose the thrilling of "catching" something?


There'd be absolutely no thrill whatsoever if I found out my nanny was abusing my child. None.


So then you acknowledge, the camera is not a means of prevention. You only know she's abused your child AFTER she has done it. However telling her up front does help with prevention. Lets be honest here. If you've hired an abuser, you've hired an abuser! Camera, no camera, telling her, not telling her makes no difference. Say you don't tell her, but she's smart enough to assume you have one, and abuses outside the home anyway?? The best way to avoid such a situation is to diligently check and verify references, do a thorough background check, and get to know the woman you've hired. Hi and bye in the morning/evening is not enough.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2013 18:31     Subject: Nanny camera?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what's the harm in a nanny knowing there is a camera and being super nanny everyday? I don't see the harm in letting your nanny know.


Then they'll abuse the child where there aren't cameras.


That's not what I meant. You don't have to tell her where they are or when they are used just letting her know she will be on camera in the home. You can switch locations as you please to get the best understanding, but simply letting her know they will be used does not undermind your csi investigation. If anything then you can be cheap and get one but your nanny has no clue where and how many so she will still be on her best behavior. What is the downside to the parent in such a case? They lose the thrilling of "catching" something?


There'd be absolutely no thrill whatsoever if I found out my nanny was abusing my child. None.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2013 17:47     Subject: Nanny camera?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what's the harm in a nanny knowing there is a camera and being super nanny everyday? I don't see the harm in letting your nanny know.


Then they'll abuse the child where there aren't cameras.


That's not what I meant. You don't have to tell her where they are or when they are used just letting her know she will be on camera in the home. You can switch locations as you please to get the best understanding, but simply letting her know they will be used does not undermind your csi investigation. If anything then you can be cheap and get one but your nanny has no clue where and how many so she will still be on her best behavior. What is the downside to the parent in such a case? They lose the thrilling of "catching" something?
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2013 15:23     Subject: Nanny camera?
I understand the parents position, but at the same time I think if I found out about cameras I would be seriously insulted. In addition I hope this has not been the case because parents have given me the okay to pump in the nursery or sitting room...that would be very awkward o_0
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2013 13:50     Subject: Nanny camera?
Anonymous wrote:So what's the harm in a nanny knowing there is a camera and being super nanny everyday? I don't see the harm in letting your nanny know.


Then they'll abuse the child where there aren't cameras.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2013 12:21     Subject: Nanny camera?
So what's the harm in a nanny knowing there is a camera and being super nanny everyday? I don't see the harm in letting your nanny know.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2013 00:17     Subject: Nanny camera?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We have one. We didn't tell our nanny. We feel no guilt about this at all.


Do you also not care if she finds it and quits? I know plenty of nannies who have no problem working on camera, myself included, but I don't know any who would be okay with her employers secretly taping her. I wouldn't quit on the spot. I'd take special consideration to be super nanny on camera, get an evaluation or recommendation letter from you, find a great new position, then leave you high and dry. If you think its okay to be sneaky and dishonest, why should your nanny treat you any differently?


We'll deal with it if you quit with no notice. I just don't want you abusing my child when you think nobody can see you. That's why we don't tell our nanny.


+1


+1. Nannies are easily replaced. Children are not.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2013 23:39     Subject: Nanny camera?
I unplug the camera at work...
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2013 23:34     Subject: Nanny camera?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Simmer down, Deb! We did do a background check, and we did check references, and we did interview carefully. But you can still never be sure. And, everyone who does something awful, at some point, does that awful thing for the first time. We do not expect to see proof of our nanny abusing our child. Of course we didn't put cameras in the bathrooms. We checked with our lawyer that we have the right to film in the common areas of our home and we do. If the nanny finds out about cameras then of course, anyone can file suit against anyone else in court. But I don't think they'd win for invasion of privacy.


I repeat, your moral compass is BROKEN. More than that, I believe it has been shattered.

Best of luck in your scummy lives.
Wow. At work you can be filmed without knowing it. What moral compass has to do with it? Lol
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2013 22:05     Subject: Nanny camera?
Anonymous wrote:Simmer down, Deb! We did do a background check, and we did check references, and we did interview carefully. But you can still never be sure. And, everyone who does something awful, at some point, does that awful thing for the first time. We do not expect to see proof of our nanny abusing our child. Of course we didn't put cameras in the bathrooms. We checked with our lawyer that we have the right to film in the common areas of our home and we do. If the nanny finds out about cameras then of course, anyone can file suit against anyone else in court. But I don't think they'd win for invasion of privacy.


I repeat, your moral compass is BROKEN. More than that, I believe it has been shattered.

Best of luck in your scummy lives.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2013 17:40     Subject: Nanny camera?
nannydebsays wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We have one. We didn't tell our nanny. We feel no guilt about this at all.


Do you also not care if she finds it and quits? I know plenty of nannies who have no problem working on camera, myself included, but I don't know any who would be okay with her employers secretly taping her. I wouldn't quit on the spot. I'd take special consideration to be super nanny on camera, get an evaluation or recommendation letter from you, find a great new position, then leave you high and dry. If you think its okay to be sneaky and dishonest, why should your nanny treat you any differently?


We'll deal with it if you quit with no notice. I just don't want you abusing my child when you think nobody can see you. That's why we don't tell our nanny.


So instead of being upfront about the fact that you will nanny cam, you choose to hide that fact because you apparently believe the person you hired is a potential abuser.. I am trying to wrap my head around that logic.

You don't trust the person you hired. So you chose to break trust with that person at the time she was hired by installing a secret nanny cam. And you expect to one day see proof that you were right to film your nanny in secret when you watch her abusing your child. Wow. Just...wow.

I hope you have every room (including bathrooms) cammed from every possible angle, and that when nanny discovers you are filming her at all times, even when she has the expectation of privacy, she sues you for all you have. I guess then it's "stupid" to leave your child with a nanny you don't trust, right? Maybe if parents do background checks, contact and speak with references, and take the time to interview carefully, they'll be better able to trust the person they hire. Of course, that logic doesn't apply to the PP who is going to "deal with it" when nanny finds the secret cams and quits. That PP will just hire the first person they find when the previous nanny quits, and then cope with the consequences if that person does abuse their kid. Brilliant plan. Hope that works out for them.


Simmer down, Deb! We did do a background check, and we did check references, and we did interview carefully. But you can still never be sure. And, everyone who does something awful, at some point, does that awful thing for the first time. We do not expect to see proof of our nanny abusing our child. Of course we didn't put cameras in the bathrooms. We checked with our lawyer that we have the right to film in the common areas of our home and we do. If the nanny finds out about cameras then of course, anyone can file suit against anyone else in court. But I don't think they'd win for invasion of privacy.
nannydebsays
Post 05/20/2013 16:18     Subject: Nanny camera?
Anonymous wrote:
nannydebsays wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We have one. We didn't tell our nanny. We feel no guilt about this at all.


Do you also not care if she finds it and quits? I know plenty of nannies who have no problem working on camera, myself included, but I don't know any who would be okay with her employers secretly taping her. I wouldn't quit on the spot. I'd take special consideration to be super nanny on camera, get an evaluation or recommendation letter from you, find a great new position, then leave you high and dry. If you think its okay to be sneaky and dishonest, why should your nanny treat you any differently?


We'll deal with it if you quit with no notice. I just don't want you abusing my child when you think nobody can see you. That's why we don't tell our nanny.



You don't trust the person you hired.

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It would be stupid to trust the person instantly.


I guess then it's "stupid" to leave your child with a nanny you don't trust, right? Maybe if parents do background checks, contact and speak with references, and take the time to interview carefully, they'll be better able to trust the person they hire.

Of course, that logic doesn't apply to the PP who is going to "deal with it" when nanny finds the secret cams and quits. That PP will just hire the first person they find when the previous nanny quits, and then cope with the consequences if that person does abuse their kid. Brilliant plan. Hope that works out for them.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2013 16:08     Subject: Nanny camera?
nannydebsays wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We have one. We didn't tell our nanny. We feel no guilt about this at all.


Do you also not care if she finds it and quits? I know plenty of nannies who have no problem working on camera, myself included, but I don't know any who would be okay with her employers secretly taping her. I wouldn't quit on the spot. I'd take special consideration to be super nanny on camera, get an evaluation or recommendation letter from you, find a great new position, then leave you high and dry. If you think its okay to be sneaky and dishonest, why should your nanny treat you any differently?


We'll deal with it if you quit with no notice. I just don't want you abusing my child when you think nobody can see you. That's why we don't tell our nanny.



You don't trust the person you hired.

.
It would be stupid to trust the person instantly.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2013 16:02     Subject: Nanny camera?
At work you can be recorded, you don't need to know its happening.
nannydebsays
Post 05/20/2013 16:02     Subject: Nanny camera?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We have one. We didn't tell our nanny. We feel no guilt about this at all.


Do you also not care if she finds it and quits? I know plenty of nannies who have no problem working on camera, myself included, but I don't know any who would be okay with her employers secretly taping her. I wouldn't quit on the spot. I'd take special consideration to be super nanny on camera, get an evaluation or recommendation letter from you, find a great new position, then leave you high and dry. If you think its okay to be sneaky and dishonest, why should your nanny treat you any differently?


We'll deal with it if you quit with no notice. I just don't want you abusing my child when you think nobody can see you. That's why we don't tell our nanny.


So instead of being upfront about the fact that you will nanny cam, you choose to hide that fact because you apparently believe the person you hired is a potential abuser.. I am trying to wrap my head around that logic.

You don't trust the person you hired.

So you chose to break trust with that person at the time she was hired by installing a secret nanny cam.

And you expect to one day see proof that you were right to film your nanny in secret when you watch her abusing your child.

Wow. Just...wow.

I hope you have every room (including bathrooms) cammed from every possible angle, and that when nanny discovers you are filming her at all times, even when she has the expectation of privacy, she sues you for all you have.