Anonymous
Post 05/13/2013 17:01     Subject: How much do you pay your nanny for overnight care?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"Elite"? Who's entitled, then?

Who's entitled to what?


I would think an Ivy-league educated Elite Nanny like yourself would be able to swiftly engage with the logic. Anyone who associates their profession with the words "most elite" has a bit of an entitlement issue.
Anonymous
Post 05/13/2013 16:55     Subject: How much do you pay your nanny for overnight care?

Anonymous wrote:"Elite"? Who's entitled, then?

Who's entitled to what?
Anonymous
Post 05/13/2013 16:55     Subject: How much do you pay your nanny for overnight care?

Anonymous wrote:
Many of you simply cannot afford a nanny.
You are not entitled to the most elite form of childcare, any more than you are entitled to the biggest house in your neighborhood, or the most elite private school you can find.


I'm entitled to direct my resources to any area I want, as long as someone I deem worthy is willing to accept it: see definition of norm, above.

I don't think a nanny is automatically "the most elite form of childcare," and I sincerely doubt that you, poster, have experienced or provided it. Troll.
Anonymous
Post 05/13/2013 16:52     Subject: How much do you pay your nanny for overnight care?

"Elite"? Who's entitled, then?
Anonymous
Post 05/13/2013 16:49     Subject: How much do you pay your nanny for overnight care?

Anonymous wrote:A norm of any sort is the way people are willing to behave and what others are willing to accept about that behavior. An example would be: most people think it's outside the norm to resort to name calling in response to a discussion.

Speaking of norms, it is also important to note that norms are often different by profession and by the nature of the position (and by geographical market, per above). Most often, those salaried people (who are trying to understand what to pay their nanny for an overnight rate) don't get a single dollar extra for working overtime at their own jobs - perfectly legally, I might add. They travel, spend overnights, even work through weekends as part of their positions, without a single dollar more of salary. And in many cases, one of the parents who a nanny works for doesn't make very much more money annually than the nanny.

This may play in to the frequent disconnect between nannies and employers on this subject.

But it's ridiculous to assume that nanny employers are cheap or otherwise inappropriate to try to negotiate an overnight rate.

Contrary to the constant trolling here, employers are not all cheap wealthy people who look down upon our nannies and use them like caterers for a fancy party.

Many of us seek just to "break even" financially for a few years as households because we we could lose our careers if we pause them entirely when our kids are too young for school.



Many of you simply cannot afford a nanny.
You are not entitled to the most elite form of childcare, any more than you are entitled to the biggest house in your neighborhood, or the most elite private school you can find.
Anonymous
Post 05/13/2013 16:42     Subject: How much do you pay your nanny for overnight care?

A norm of any sort is the way people are willing to behave and what others are willing to accept about that behavior. An example would be: most people think it's outside the norm to resort to name calling in response to a discussion.

Speaking of norms, it is also important to note that norms are often different by profession and by the nature of the position (and by geographical market, per above). Most often, those salaried people (who are trying to understand what to pay their nanny for an overnight rate) don't get a single dollar extra for working overtime at their own jobs - perfectly legally, I might add. They travel, spend overnights, even work through weekends as part of their positions, without a single dollar more of salary. And in many cases, one of the parents who a nanny works for doesn't make very much more money annually than the nanny.

This may play in to the frequent disconnect between nannies and employers on this subject.

But it's ridiculous to assume that nanny employers are cheap or otherwise inappropriate to try to negotiate an overnight rate.

Contrary to the constant trolling here, employers are not all cheap wealthy people who look down upon our nannies and use them like caterers for a fancy party.

Many of us seek just to "break even" financially for a few years as households because we we could lose our careers if we pause them entirely when our kids are too young for school.


Anonymous
Post 05/13/2013 13:03     Subject: How much do you pay your nanny for overnight care?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The "market norms" are made up by cheap employers and nannies need to start making their own "market norms.' In every other jon working night is extra pay.


I don't think you understand "market norm".


Please do explain what you mean by "market norm".


What falls within the range of common for a given market, such as DC metro.
Anonymous
Post 05/13/2013 12:59     Subject: How much do you pay your nanny for overnight care?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The "market norms" are made up by cheap employers and nannies need to start making their own "market norms.' In every other jon working night is extra pay.


I don't think you understand "market norm".


Please do explain what you mean by "market norm".
Anonymous
Post 05/13/2013 12:32     Subject: How much do you pay your nanny for overnight care?

Anonymous wrote:The "market norms" are made up by cheap employers and nannies need to start making their own "market norms.' In every other jon working night is extra pay.


I don't think you understand "market norm".

Anonymous
Post 05/11/2013 20:39     Subject: How much do you pay your nanny for overnight care?

You are grossly mistaken, if you think what your girlfriends tell you, they pay their sitters, equates to "market norms".
Anonymous
Post 05/11/2013 19:06     Subject: How much do you pay your nanny for overnight care?

The "market norms" are made up by cheap employers and nannies need to start making their own "market norms.' In every other jon working night is extra pay.
Anonymous
Post 05/11/2013 15:05     Subject: How much do you pay your nanny for overnight care?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nannies are crazy to accept overnight rates. They can't go out and party, get drunk, have boyfriend over so they are om duty the entire time. You people are so cheap, it is disgusting


Because that's all nannies do in their off hours?

I'm not crazy. It's reasonable and within market norms.

Where do you get your "market norms" from?


Seriously? Read the other responses on this thread. It clearly is within market norm.
Anonymous
Post 05/11/2013 13:21     Subject: How much do you pay your nanny for overnight care?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nannies are crazy to accept overnight rates. They can't go out and party, get drunk, have boyfriend over so they are om duty the entire time. You people are so cheap, it is disgusting


Because that's all nannies do in their off hours?

I'm not crazy. It's reasonable and within market norms.

Where do you get your "market norms" from?
Anonymous
Post 05/11/2013 11:29     Subject: How much do you pay your nanny for overnight care?

Anonymous wrote:Nannies are crazy to accept overnight rates. They can't go out and party, get drunk, have boyfriend over so they are om duty the entire time. You people are so cheap, it is disgusting


Because that's all nannies do in their off hours?

I'm not crazy. It's reasonable and within market norms.
Anonymous
Post 05/11/2013 04:34     Subject: Re:How much do you pay your nanny for overnight care?

$75-100.

Live ins in MD do get OT pay legally. Live ins in DC/VA have to negotiate for it if it matters to them.