Anonymous
Post 04/17/2013 09:33     Subject: I know it's a law, but why?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:PP, why do you have a live-in then?


Because I thought it would be good for my situation. Turns out its more hassle that its worth. There are TWO sides to everything, just wanted to make that point.

No one has a live-in because they feel sorry for the nanny. Live-ins are a convienence for the family. Period.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2013 09:33     Subject: I know it's a law, but why?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If I only "live-in" M-F, but pay for my own monthly rent, and stay at my apartment on the weekends...am I considered a live-in, and thus except from overtime?

The truth is that live-ins are an enormous convienence for parents, not nannies.


I dont agree with this. I have a live in and its a pain in the butt.


And it's a walk in the park for your nanny. What's a pain in the butt about it? Having someone at your beck and call? Getting to pay crap wages for the chance to have someone at your beck and call? Getting to set rules about how someone lives their life but also getting to charge them to live with you and abide by your rules (not to mention the freedom to make the rules as silly and intrusive as you please because its your house, even though they pay to live there)? Oh wait I know what's a pain in the butt! It's having to share a space with someone who PAYS you to live there, and to feed someone who PAYS you to do so with their labor, or is it the lack of privacy from someone you hired to live with you? Waaah it must be awful not getting EVERYTHING thing exactly the way you want it. Live-ins should have to deduct room and board from their wages, but should also behave more like robots where they don't eat anything, do anything you didn't tell them to do, and you can turn them on and off as you please. She should also remember to thank you for the privilege to work/live with you daily as well.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2013 09:32     Subject: I know it's a law, but why?
Anonymous wrote:Live-in nannies are being forced to pay for the privilege of never going home. How would you like to move into your office, and then have your salary cut for this "privilege"?


I wouldn't do it. Simple as that. But if I decided to, I would not complain and compare it to slavery. That’s just ridiculous. You're an adult and if you are unhappy at your job, quit. I'm just so sick of EVERYONE complaining that they are over worked and under paid. It’s not just nannies, its EVERYONE.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2013 09:28     Subject: I know it's a law, but why?
Anonymous wrote:PP, why do you have a live-in then?


Because I thought it would be good for my situation. Turns out its more hassle that its worth. There are TWO sides to everything, just wanted to make that point.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2013 09:26     Subject: I know it's a law, but why?
PP, why do you have a live-in then?
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2013 09:26     Subject: I know it's a law, but why?
Live-in nannies are being forced to pay for the privilege of never going home. How would you like to move into your office, and then have your salary cut for this "privilege"?
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2013 09:24     Subject: I know it's a law, but why?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If I only "live-in" M-F, but pay for my own monthly rent, and stay at my apartment on the weekends...am I considered a live-in, and thus except from overtime?

The truth is that live-ins are an enormous convienence for parents, not nannies.


I dont agree with this. I have a live in and its a pain in the butt.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2013 09:23     Subject: I know it's a law, but why?
Anonymous wrote:Even if the children and I are sleeping, if I'm on duty- I'm on duty!!! Pay me for my time. I do not work for free, that's slavery! Also do not say I get a reduced rate for overnights! I am an hourly employee. Time over 40 hours is overtime, meaning at least time and a half. Your hourly rate should go up, not down! Those needing a nanny 24hrs probably want this as a luxury. Pay for this damn luxury. If you can't afford overtime, look for other child care options. You can't treat HUMANS like this! It's shocking that in 2013 we have AMERICAN LAWS that support this overuse, abuse, and no pay for work rendered!!!!!!


Dont agree to take/do the job then! you can say no! No one is forcing you, so its nothing like slavery. Quit complaining. PS I dont get paid to sleep at my job - just saying.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2013 09:23     Subject: I know it's a law, but why?
Anonymous wrote:If I only "live-in" M-F, but pay for my own monthly rent, and stay at my apartment on the weekends...am I considered a live-in, and thus except from overtime?

The truth is that live-ins are an enormous convienence for parents, not nannies.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2013 09:18     Subject: I know it's a law, but why?
If I only "live-in" M-F, but pay for my own monthly rent, and stay at my apartment on the weekends...am I considered a live-in, and thus except from overtime?
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2013 09:11     Subject: I know it's a law, but why?
Anonymous wrote:Even if the children and I are sleeping, if I'm on duty- I'm on duty!!! Pay me for my time. I do not work for free, that's slavery! Also do not say I get a reduced rate for overnights! I am an hourly employee. Time over 40 hours is overtime, meaning at least time and a half. Your hourly rate should go up, not down! Those needing a nanny 24hrs probably want this as a luxury. Pay for this damn luxury. If you can't afford overtime, look for other child care options. You can't treat HUMANS like this! It's shocking that in 2013 we have AMERICAN LAWS that support this overuse, abuse, and no pay for work rendered!!!!!!

So true. INA continues to stay quiet.....
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2013 09:05     Subject: I know it's a law, but why?
Even if the children and I are sleeping, if I'm on duty- I'm on duty!!! Pay me for my time. I do not work for free, that's slavery! Also do not say I get a reduced rate for overnights! I am an hourly employee. Time over 40 hours is overtime, meaning at least time and a half. Your hourly rate should go up, not down! Those needing a nanny 24hrs probably want this as a luxury. Pay for this damn luxury. If you can't afford overtime, look for other child care options. You can't treat HUMANS like this! It's shocking that in 2013 we have AMERICAN LAWS that support this overuse, abuse, and no pay for work rendered!!!!!!
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2013 08:53     Subject: I know it's a law, but why?
No one is advocating for nannies.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2013 08:39     Subject: I know it's a law, but why?
Anonymous wrote:The laws are even more nasty, when they say nanny employers who hire a 24hr nanny don't have to pay for 8 hours. Even though they are technically working, they are there in case kid wakes, has nightmares- the nanny can't run out in the middle of the night for a Shamrock shake craving. And when you sleeping, but know you are in charge of a child, your sleep is restless.

When I am "sleeping" and waiting for the baby to wake up any minute for her next feeding, I am not really sleeping. Lots of moms know about that. The last thing I'd want to do is let the baby's crying, disturb the parents.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2013 08:13     Subject: I know it's a law, but why?
The laws are even more nasty, when they say nanny employers who hire a 24hr nanny don't have to pay for 8 hours. Even though they are technically working, they are there in case kid wakes, has nightmares- the nanny can't run out in the middle of the night for a Shamrock shake craving. And when you sleeping, but know you are in charge of a child, your sleep is restless.