Anonymous
03/25/2013 21:27
Subject: Re:Do I fire her?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm honestly quite surprised at how many people are okay with this!
I'm a nanny, and I don't even go 2mph over the speed limit when I have my charges in the car. If this were my nanny, I would probably either ban her from driving (if there were alternative transportation) or fire her if I needed a reliable driver for my kids. I wouldn't make that choice lightly, because finding a good nanny who fits with your family isn't easy, but this seems so negligent I don't know how I could overlook it. Unless it was a speed trap zone (where the limit drops suddenly and cops like to ticket people who are still in the midst of slowing down) I wouldn't be able to keep her on as a driver for my kids.
Full disclosure being that I myself have been in three very serious accidents (as a passenger) and lost two good friends at 16 and 20 in road accidents where they were speeding, so I know I am more extreme than most people. But nonetheless...
No one likes a martyr. It's fine you've never been caught with a speeding ticket, but I would hardly call going over the speed limit negligence to a child's well-being. She told the mb, so she clearly cares about the well being of the kids and the opinions of the parents.
And this is how a nanny becomes a micromanaging MB...
Oh, sorry, expecting the nanny to follow traffic laws while transporting children is now considered MICROMANAGING? I will take you less seriously on the other thread if so.
Anonymous
03/25/2013 21:26
Subject: Re:Do I fire her?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm honestly quite surprised at how many people are okay with this!
I'm a nanny, and I don't even go 2mph over the speed limit when I have my charges in the car. If this were my nanny, I would probably either ban her from driving (if there were alternative transportation) or fire her if I needed a reliable driver for my kids. I wouldn't make that choice lightly, because finding a good nanny who fits with your family isn't easy, but this seems so negligent I don't know how I could overlook it. Unless it was a speed trap zone (where the limit drops suddenly and cops like to ticket people who are still in the midst of slowing down) I wouldn't be able to keep her on as a driver for my kids.
Full disclosure being that I myself have been in three very serious accidents (as a passenger) and lost two good friends at 16 and 20 in road accidents where they were speeding, so I know I am more extreme than most people. But nonetheless...
No one likes a martyr. It's fine you've never been caught with a speeding ticket, but I would hardly call going over the speed limit negligence to a child's well-being. She told the mb, so she clearly cares about the well being of the kids and the opinions of the parents.
Going 12mph over the speed limit with children in the car is absolutely negligence! Not only is she breaking the law, but speed limits exist for a reason - either because of traffic and road conditions, neighborhood zoning, or hidden drives. I don't think I'm being a martyr by saying I do not speed - it's not that I haven't been caught, I actually follow posted speed limits - but hearing how many nannies here think it's okay, I can completely understand why some MBs don't want nannies driving their children (I work for one). Yikes!
Anonymous
03/25/2013 18:54
Subject: Do I fire her?
Anonymous wrote:It was very honest + mature of her to let you know on her own. If she truly regrets what she did and admits she was perhaps going a little too fast, I would let her off w/a warning. However, if her attitude is that the cop wrote her a ticket for "barely" going over the speed limit, etc. and doesn't admit responsibility, I would have a serious talk w/her.
I think your hubby is overreacting here.
However since he is the children's parent as well, if he truly feel like she should be let go, perhaps he can have a talk w/her to settle his mind more.
I can't tell you how many times I have changed my DH's mind about firing this nanny or household employee or another. Remind him of all her good points, incidences where she was accommodating/ wonderful with the kids, and especially that she admitted her mistake and promised to drive extra carefully from now on BEFORE he talks to her.
Anonymous
03/25/2013 18:52
Subject: Do I fire her?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Of course not. Speeding tickets suck but most people get at least one in their lifetime. It happens.
I've never gotten a speeding ticket. Been driving for 19 years. I never go more than 5 miles over the speed limit.
Haha! I love that you are casting judgement on those who speed, WHILE ADMITTING THAT YOU SPEED! Amazing. While many cops will let you off with a warning if it's under 10, you can absolutely be ticketed for speeding going 5 (or fewer) miles over the limit. The fact that you haven't makes you lucky, not special.
Anonymous
03/25/2013 18:06
Subject: Do I fire her?
It was very honest + mature of her to let you know on her own. If she truly regrets what she did and admits she was perhaps going a little too fast, I would let her off w/a warning. However, if her attitude is that the cop wrote her a ticket for "barely" going over the speed limit, etc. and doesn't admit responsibility, I would have a serious talk w/her.
I think your hubby is overreacting here.
However since he is the children's parent as well, if he truly feel like she should be let go, perhaps he can have a talk w/her to settle his mind more.
I think your hubby is overreacting here.
However since he is the children's parent as well, if he truly feel like she should be let go, perhaps he can have a talk w/her to settle his mind more.
Anonymous
03/25/2013 17:58
Subject: Re:Do I fire her?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm honestly quite surprised at how many people are okay with this!
I'm a nanny, and I don't even go 2mph over the speed limit when I have my charges in the car. If this were my nanny, I would probably either ban her from driving (if there were alternative transportation) or fire her if I needed a reliable driver for my kids. I wouldn't make that choice lightly, because finding a good nanny who fits with your family isn't easy, but this seems so negligent I don't know how I could overlook it. Unless it was a speed trap zone (where the limit drops suddenly and cops like to ticket people who are still in the midst of slowing down) I wouldn't be able to keep her on as a driver for my kids.
Full disclosure being that I myself have been in three very serious accidents (as a passenger) and lost two good friends at 16 and 20 in road accidents where they were speeding, so I know I am more extreme than most people. But nonetheless...
No one likes a martyr. It's fine you've never been caught with a speeding ticket, but I would hardly call going over the speed limit negligence to a child's well-being. She told the mb, so she clearly cares about the well being of the kids and the opinions of the parents.
And this is how a nanny becomes a micromanaging MB...
Anonymous
03/25/2013 17:50
Subject: Re:Do I fire her?
Anonymous wrote:I'm honestly quite surprised at how many people are okay with this!
I'm a nanny, and I don't even go 2mph over the speed limit when I have my charges in the car. If this were my nanny, I would probably either ban her from driving (if there were alternative transportation) or fire her if I needed a reliable driver for my kids. I wouldn't make that choice lightly, because finding a good nanny who fits with your family isn't easy, but this seems so negligent I don't know how I could overlook it. Unless it was a speed trap zone (where the limit drops suddenly and cops like to ticket people who are still in the midst of slowing down) I wouldn't be able to keep her on as a driver for my kids.
Full disclosure being that I myself have been in three very serious accidents (as a passenger) and lost two good friends at 16 and 20 in road accidents where they were speeding, so I know I am more extreme than most people. But nonetheless...
No one likes a martyr. It's fine you've never been caught with a speeding ticket, but I would hardly call going over the speed limit negligence to a child's well-being. She told the mb, so she clearly cares about the well being of the kids and the opinions of the parents.
Anonymous
03/25/2013 16:34
Subject: Do I fire her?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thanks for the responses. And I'm feeling good about validating my initial reaction. I was glad she told me! She will not be fired, because we do otherwise love her! I will probably just ask that she be extra cautious with the kids in the car like I know she usually is.
Yes, this is the appropriate response.
+1
Anonymous
03/25/2013 16:08
Subject: Re:Do I fire her?
I'm honestly quite surprised at how many people are okay with this!
I'm a nanny, and I don't even go 2mph over the speed limit when I have my charges in the car. If this were my nanny, I would probably either ban her from driving (if there were alternative transportation) or fire her if I needed a reliable driver for my kids. I wouldn't make that choice lightly, because finding a good nanny who fits with your family isn't easy, but this seems so negligent I don't know how I could overlook it. Unless it was a speed trap zone (where the limit drops suddenly and cops like to ticket people who are still in the midst of slowing down) I wouldn't be able to keep her on as a driver for my kids.
Full disclosure being that I myself have been in three very serious accidents (as a passenger) and lost two good friends at 16 and 20 in road accidents where they were speeding, so I know I am more extreme than most people. But nonetheless...
I'm a nanny, and I don't even go 2mph over the speed limit when I have my charges in the car. If this were my nanny, I would probably either ban her from driving (if there were alternative transportation) or fire her if I needed a reliable driver for my kids. I wouldn't make that choice lightly, because finding a good nanny who fits with your family isn't easy, but this seems so negligent I don't know how I could overlook it. Unless it was a speed trap zone (where the limit drops suddenly and cops like to ticket people who are still in the midst of slowing down) I wouldn't be able to keep her on as a driver for my kids.
Full disclosure being that I myself have been in three very serious accidents (as a passenger) and lost two good friends at 16 and 20 in road accidents where they were speeding, so I know I am more extreme than most people. But nonetheless...
Anonymous
03/25/2013 16:00
Subject: Do I fire her?
Anonymous wrote:Of course not. Speeding tickets suck but most people get at least one in their lifetime. It happens.
I've never gotten a speeding ticket. Been driving for 19 years. I never go more than 5 miles over the speed limit.
Anonymous
03/25/2013 15:52
Subject: Re:Do I fire her?
I think the question is nuts. No i would not fire a nanny for going 12 over the limit, particularly on a road you KNOW is easy to speed on which probably means the speed limit is really too low on it.
Did you drive today before noon? If the OP is in the area and the nanny did was speeding 12 mph with the slippery roads then it is a big deal. I tend to drive too fast and I was driving 10 mph under the speed limit today. Roads were fine as long as you were careful, didn't speed and left a good distance between cars.
Anonymous
03/25/2013 15:46
Subject: Do I fire her?
I think the question is nuts. No i would not fire a nanny for going 12 over the limit, particularly on a road you KNOW is easy to speed on which probably means the speed limit is really too low on it.
Give her a warning sure and make her pay the ticket but never would i consider this a firable offense.
Give her a warning sure and make her pay the ticket but never would i consider this a firable offense.
Anonymous
03/25/2013 15:33
Subject: Do I fire her?
Speeding more than 5mph over is inexcusable IMO, but I wouldn't fire her the first time. As a driver you're supposed to be paying attention to that stuff, esp with kids in the car. Punishing her for being honest about it will just make her hide mistakes in the future. Give her a warning and tell her no more than 5 mph over and to be a more responsible driver.
Anonymous
03/25/2013 15:30
Subject: Re:Do I fire her?
OP are you in the DC area? If you are and this happened today with the bad weather then yes I would not allow her to drive my kids which might mean firing her if this is necessary. If it was 12 over on a day without any adverse weather conditions then I would go with a warning.
Anonymous
03/25/2013 15:01
Subject: Do I fire her?
I LOVE clear thinking MBs.