I don't think the PP was suggesting the raise should have anything to do with the employers wealth. I took it to mean, under normal circumstances she would expect such and such raise for a new baby and such and such raise for a contract renewal, but if she recognized a family truly couldn't afford that, but offered the best they could, then she would accept that.

"You are really on a sick crusade trying to convince everyone here to believe your silly market rate nonsense. Nobody cares that you want to enforce some poster score card, as if one size fits all. So here's a primer for you. Average nannies get average wages. Below average get below average wages. And above average nannies command the highest wages."

I am not PP you are quoting but you don't seem to understand that "market rate" includes the factors you mentioned. A great nanny will be above avg in pay - that is the mkt rate for compensation for a great nanny. An avg nanny will be able to command avg/middle pay - that is market rate for an avg nanny. But these factors relate to the NANNY's qualifications, NOT to how much money the employer family has. That is PP's point.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When my daughter was born we provided 1.00 extra per hour when I went back to work and a 1.00 for the year end raise; the two events were w/in a couple of months of each other. I did not ask our nanny for her thoughts but she must have been fine w/ it because my daughter is 3 1/2 and our nanny is still with us.

As a nanny, if I thought that was truly the best you could do, I might stay on to. I take it that your older child went to preschool? How do you manage the transport for the older child to school?

Even if the PP could afford more, doesn't mean the nanny deserves more. I noticed you said "If I thought that was truly the best you could do"... You need to accept market rate, and not assume that just because someone is wealthy that you deserve a higher rate.

Are you really not as bright , as you sound? You are really on a sick crusade trying to convince everyone here to believe your silly market rate nonsense. Nobody cares that you want to enforce some poster score card, as if one size fits all. So here's a primer for you. Average nannies get average wages. Below average get below average wages. And above average nannies command the highest wages. Get it?
(Hint: you don't need that MBA.)

Any just for you, let's repeat the obvious. Every field has their bad apples, so buyer beware. One hopes that you are not one of the bad apples in your field. Btw, weren't you suppose to have left us?

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Anonymous wrote:When my daughter was born we provided 1.00 extra per hour when I went back to work and a 1.00 for the year end raise; the two events were w/in a couple of months of each other. I did not ask our nanny for her thoughts but she must have been fine w/ it because my daughter is 3 1/2 and our nanny is still with us.

As a nanny, if I thought that was truly the best you could do, I might stay on to. I take it that your older child went to preschool? How do you manage the transport for the older child to school?

Even if the PP could afford more, doesn't mean the nanny deserves more. I noticed you said "If I thought that was truly the best you could do"... You need to accept market rate, and not assume that just because someone is wealthy that you deserve a higher rate.

Anonymous wrote:Why don't you have the meeting first?

Then come to the board to mull it over?

You need a starting point.

For instance, nanny says she wants a $3/hr raise. Then you come here to debate that, if she's worth it to you and your children. But if she says she wants a 25 cents per hour raise, you've wasted endless hours and aggravation here, for no intelligent reason. Unless you're seeking some kind of sick attention?

You're giving horrible advice. Please go elsewhere.

Anonymous wrote:Here's the thing. The nanny already knows what she needs in order to stay on with the new baby, if at all.

Why not simply ask her?

Who knows. She may think that the new situation will be less work, and she'll ask you to decrease her wages.

Congratulations on your new growing baby!

LOL - Why would anyone in their right mind ask for a decrease in pay? What a silly thing to say. LOL.

10:09 here -- if your nanny doesn't drive, that also lowers her cost, IMO.

Our nanny (two children 3 and 1) has been with us for almost a year at $17/hr. I am expecting #3 in June, and could not afford a huge raise for her. So, we went ahead and gave her a $1 raise on her anniversary and told her $18/hr would be for all three (I am home, so we share the labor). I also increased the number of holiday days she gets, and increased her hours to full time in advance of the new baby.

Honestly, I would have given her a little more per hour, but I'm saving it for a big holiday bonus since so many nannies seem to get angry when they don't get at least 1 week's pay at Christmastime.

Anonymous wrote:When my daughter was born we provided 1.00 extra per hour when I went back to work and a 1.00 for the year end raise; the two events were w/in a couple of months of each other. I did not ask our nanny for her thoughts but she must have been fine w/ it because my daughter is 3 1/2 and our nanny is still with us.

As a nanny, if I thought that was truly the best you could do, I might stay on to. I take it that your older child went to preschool? How do you manage the transport for the older child to school?

When my daughter was born we provided 1.00 extra per hour when I went back to work and a 1.00 for the year end raise; the two events were w/in a couple of months of each other. I did not ask our nanny for her thoughts but she must have been fine w/ it because my daughter is 3 1/2 and our nanny is still with us.

Yes, bottom line is you both must be in honest agreement. Key is honest. Often nanny will settle on whatever you want and then start on her next job search.

We added 1.50 for the new baby per hour when I went back to work-- the raise was a combination of a yearly addition and the new baby and also took into account that the toddler was going to pre-school. I did ask my nanny what she thought was fair and she said $5 more per hour! I responded that with her current salary and benefits, 1.50 was all I was prepared to pay and she agreed (that was a year ago and she is still with us). SO-- I think that you decide what you are willing to pay and then speak with her, but be aware that your opinion and hers might differ.