Anonymous
Post 02/26/2013 13:04     Subject: MB changing hours last minute

Anonymous wrote:All is nonsense is just another reason to get paid in advance. No banking hours. I am a pt nanny, but same rules apply.



Paid in advance? For real?

I have NEVER been paid in advance for ANY job. Why would that be okay with parents?
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2013 09:14     Subject: MB changing hours last minute

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:new mb here. I have been guilty of this with my part-time nanny. she is an angel and never complained. Now, i realize this is hard on the nanny. Would it be fair to pay a nanny half time for the hours you don't need her to come in?


No, stupid. You pay her regular hourly pay? How about you don't get paid for your down time or only get half pay. You would complain, wouldn't you.


I also do not agree with what this MB is doing, but calling her stupid was uncalled for and certainly won't help her see reason.


I agree, no need to name call.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2013 08:15     Subject: MB changing hours last minute

All is nonsense is just another reason to get paid in advance. No banking hours. I am a pt nanny, but same rules apply.

Anonymous
Post 02/26/2013 03:49     Subject: MB changing hours last minute

I work PT and insist on having guaranteed hours/pay each week. If they don't need me I still get paid. I count on this money.

I previously had a work exchange that was stated to be 15 hours approx each week (with anything over being an hourly rate with money). No talk of banking hours at all and since I had never encountered that before, and had done several work exchanges, I didn't think to bring it up. 3 weeks into the position the MB had casually said to me, "you are keeping track of your hours, right?". Apparently they were keeping track and anything under 15 per week was to be banked and then used later. I didn't like this, and while it was only randomly that she would ask me to stay late one night or do a babysitting evening on the weekend, she would often only use 12 hours each week. This left me with sometime 50 hours being owed! I owed some at Christmas and did a few days with longer hours and babysitting and got it down to just a few, but then she would not need me for a random day, or something and 2 months later I would be back at 40 hours owed again. The living situation wasn't that great to put up with that, so I found something else instead. I had a paying job that was willing to change me to an exchange and was going to be great hours (no banking hours!) and so I stayed in the "banking hours" place for a couple more months to save up money and then moved in to my other job. I am now very happy, have other paying positions and no longer worry about banking hours ever again. I would seriously say no to what seemed like the greatest position EVER if it meant having to deal with that again.
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2013 20:04     Subject: MB changing hours last minute

Some mb if she could bank unneeded hours. I said no. It was really very easy and straight forward. The end. They feel like they just have to ask. They have no clue how insulting they are behaving.
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2013 19:47     Subject: MB changing hours last minute

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:new mb here. I have been guilty of this with my part-time nanny. she is an angel and never complained. Now, i realize this is hard on the nanny. Would it be fair to pay a nanny half time for the hours you don't need her to come in?


No, stupid. You pay her regular hourly pay? How about you don't get paid for your down time or only get half pay. You would complain, wouldn't you.


I also do not agree with what this MB is doing, but calling her stupid was uncalled for and certainly won't help her see reason.
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2013 19:37     Subject: MB changing hours last minute

I had an mbonce who wanted to pay me a set weekly rate and then bank the hours if they didn't use all the hours they paid. I said no way because I didn't want to be stuck working a Fri or Sat night because they let me go early on a Tuesday 6 weeks ago. I think if another mb approached me about this in the future, I wouldn't agree unless it was an even trade...stay late on a m, t, w, th for lettin gme go early on a m, t, w, th but I wouldn't swap a f, s, su for a week day. Would also require the banked hours be used within a week or two. But no way would I give up a Fri eve for a tue afternoon...that's not a fair trade. I'm speaking as a 40 yr old who doesn't go out a lot and generally considered a reasonable person.
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2013 19:29     Subject: MB changing hours last minute

Anonymous wrote:When I tell the nanny I won't need her after 3pm even though she normally works until 5, or until 10 when she normally starts at 8am, then either:

1. If it's last minute I eat the cost and she gets paid anyway, or
2. If we have a little notice this is coming, I say, "We won't need you until noon next Thursday, would you like to work a date night next Friday night?"


That's messed up. I don't want to give up MY friday night because YOUR schedule changed.
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2013 18:54     Subject: MB changing hours last minute

I assume the pp is being sarcastic but i guess this is how some nanny employers need to have said to them so they will understand why nannies need to be paid.


my boss doesn't deduct pay if she sends me home an hour early or ask me to come in an hour later nor does she ask me to make it up. If I come in late because of my choice then I can ask to make it up though if she has a need.
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2013 18:37     Subject: MB changing hours last minute

If you don't need her then you should not pay her. By the same token, all paid maternity leave should be done away with. No jobs should be held for women. Afterall, when someone is on maternity leave, your employer doesn't need you. Fair is fair.
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2013 18:27     Subject: MB changing hours last minute

Anonymous wrote:new mb here. I have been guilty of this with my part-time nanny. she is an angel and never complained. Now, i realize this is hard on the nanny. Would it be fair to pay a nanny half time for the hours you don't need her to come in?


How many hours a week is she working for you? PT jobs can be different - some PT nannies are flexible, others are desperately depending on the income. Talk to your nanny, let her know you realize now that this was inappropriate and unfair to her, and ask her what arrangement suits her best. When I was in college and a PT nanny I didn't care. When I had finished college, I cared a LOT. We can't say how your nanny feels, you'll have to talk to her.

However, if she agrees that a guaranteed number of hours per week is important to her (which it probably is) then you should pay her full wages for all the hours you've booked her time. If you call the day before to cancel half of the next work day, she can't fill that time with another job - she's out what could be, to her, a big chunk of her income. It's fair to pay her full hourly rate for all the hours you have asked her to reserve on her calendar for you and your family.
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2013 18:24     Subject: Re:MB changing hours last minute

To defend the poster who said she offers her nanny date night hours instead...

I have two jobs - FT and PT. At my FT job I have guaranteed hours and a set schedule. We agreed the schedule can be changed with one week's notice but only so long as it doesn't drop me below my weekly hours and doesn't conflict with other jobs (or it can drop below, but I still get paid the same amount). For my PT job, I absolutely could have negotiated the same, the MB offered it... but I didn't want to. That job is extra work and money on top of an income that supports me, so if they call and say they don't need me tomorrow - that's a pleasant surprising day off for me! If they were guaranteeing me hours, I'd be going in when they didn't really need me, and in this case I'd rather sleep in than provide unnecessary care.

Which isn't to say this particular MB/nanny are in the same boat, but I do think with PT employees there is a purpose in discussing the arrangement. With FT employees, it should be expected that you'll guarantee the same number of hours in a set schedule each week.
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2013 18:20     Subject: MB changing hours last minute

Anonymous wrote:new mb here. I have been guilty of this with my part-time nanny. she is an angel and never complained. Now, i realize this is hard on the nanny. Would it be fair to pay a nanny half time for the hours you don't need her to come in?


No, stupid. You pay her regular hourly pay? How about you don't get paid for your down time or only get half pay. You would complain, wouldn't you.
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2013 18:16     Subject: MB changing hours last minute

Anonymous wrote:When I tell the nanny I won't need her after 3pm even though she normally works until 5, or until 10 when she normally starts at 8am, then either:

1. If it's last minute I eat the cost and she gets paid anyway, or
2. If we have a little notice this is coming, I say, "We won't need you until noon next Thursday, would you like to work a date night next Friday night?"


If sbe is available to work her normal, contracted, hours and you arbitrarily decixe you do not need her, then you pay her for thoze hours, she doesn't need to babysit for you on your juvenile date nights.
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2013 16:30     Subject: MB changing hours last minute

Anonymous wrote:When I tell the nanny I won't need her after 3pm even though she normally works until 5, or until 10 when she normally starts at 8am, then either:

1. If it's last minute I eat the cost and she gets paid anyway, or
2. If we have a little notice this is coming, I say, "We won't need you until noon next Thursday, would you like to work a date night next Friday night?"


What do you do if she says no I don't want to work on Friday night? Does she still get paid? If not that's messed up, and taking advantage of her. YOU decide you don't need her because of your plans, but then you ask her to give up HER Friday night or lose money? Smh...