Anonymous wrote:I think its hilarious that MBs always pay $22/hour and top of the line benefits when they're trying to prove they don't suck. Any other time, you're an overpaying fool if you pay more than $18.

Brilliant!

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Anonymous wrote:I have worked for multiple families who were great communicators. It's all about being assertive and proactive. Thinking through what you want up front and telling the nanny as soon as an issue arises.

How did those particular families find you?

The usual ways. One online, one via word of mouth and one via agency. I always tell parents up front that one of my weaknesses is that I like to be in close communication with my employers and to receive regular feedback. I also am very detailed in my contract negotiations. I have found that that directness helps to weed out the people who are going to be passive aggressive and my lack of degree weeds out the people who think the nanny is a serf.

I think its hilarious that MBs always pay $22/hour and top of the line benefits when they're trying to prove they don't suck. Any other time, you're an overpaying fool if you pay more than $18.

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Anonymous wrote:Thinking about it, it's not that complicated. Crappy employers are also successful in their careers. A good lawyer or businessperson will know how to manipulate a situation to get what they want. They'll know how to seek out a good nanny and then short change her, have her work longer hours than agreed upon...

This has been my experience and what I've observed. Most people looking for nanny care are really into their career, or really into themselves and think they and their kids are entitled to "the best". They seek out awesome nannies, then proceed to screw them. Finding a family that isn't stuck on themselves or their job, and who will be just as generous and considerate of you as they expect you to be is literally like finding a needle in a haystack. But once I found a family like that, they tend to recommend me to their friends who are similarly kind and decent people.

Dear god. The judgment and attitude in your writing is obnoxious. You're not an "awesome nanny" if you think so scornfully of most parents. I wouldn't hire you no matter what your rate, and I certainly wouldn't pay you the $22/hr rate (plus top line benefits) we pay our current nanny. You don't deserve "kind and decent" employers.

You don't know anything about me lady, and I clearly hit a nerve. If you'd actually read my post, you'd have seen that ive already found the kind and decent employers, thanks. I specifically said that this has been my experience and what I've observed with other nannies. People choose nanny care because their big important job with crazy hours demands it, or because they think they're entitled to the best. This kind of specialized care attracts rich assholes by the dozens. That is not to say the nice families don't exist. They do, and I've found them. I'm sorry you take offense, but the majority of parents out there looking for nanny care are too stuck on themselves to think or see past their own noses.

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Anonymous wrote:Thinking about it, it's not that complicated. Crappy employers are also successful in their careers. A good lawyer or businessperson will know how to manipulate a situation to get what they want. They'll know how to seek out a good nanny and then short change her, have her work longer hours than agreed upon...

This has been my experience and what I've observed. Most people looking for nanny care are really into their career, or really into themselves and think they and their kids are entitled to "the best". They seek out awesome nannies, then proceed to screw them. Finding a family that isn't stuck on themselves or their job, and who will be just as generous and considerate of you as they expect you to be is literally like finding a needle in a haystack. But once I found a family like that, they tend to recommend me to their friends who are similarly kind and decent people.

Dear god. The judgment and attitude in your writing is obnoxious. You're not an "awesome nanny" if you think so scornfully of most parents. I wouldn't hire you no matter what your rate, and I certainly wouldn't pay you the $22/hr rate (plus top line benefits) we pay our current nanny. You don't deserve "kind and decent" employers.

The nanny pp is speaking from experience. Why are you defensive?

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Anonymous wrote:Thinking about it, it's not that complicated. Crappy employers are also successful in their careers. A good lawyer or businessperson will know how to manipulate a situation to get what they want. They'll know how to seek out a good nanny and then short change her, have her work longer hours than agreed upon...

This has been my experience and what I've observed. Most people looking for nanny care are really into their career, or really into themselves and think they and their kids are entitled to "the best". They seek out awesome nannies, then proceed to screw them. Finding a family that isn't stuck on themselves or their job, and who will be just as generous and considerate of you as they expect you to be is literally like finding a needle in a haystack. But once I found a family like that, they tend to recommend me to their friends who are similarly kind and decent people.

Dear god. The judgment and attitude in your writing is obnoxious. You're not an "awesome nanny" if you think so scornfully of most parents. I wouldn't hire you no matter what your rate, and I certainly wouldn't pay you the $22/hr rate (plus top line benefits) we pay our current nanny. You don't deserve "kind and decent" employers.

Anonymous wrote:Thinking about it, it's not that complicated. Crappy employers are also successful in their careers. A good lawyer or businessperson will know how to manipulate a situation to get what they want. They'll know how to seek out a good nanny and then short change her, have her work longer hours than agreed upon...

This has been my experience and what I've observed. Most people looking for nanny care are really into their career, or really into themselves and think they and their kids are entitled to "the best". They seek out awesome nannies, then proceed to screw them. Finding a family that isn't stuck on themselves or their job, and who will be just as generous and considerate of you as they expect you to be is literally like finding a needle in a haystack. But once I found a family like that, they tend to recommend me to their friends who are similarly kind and decent people.

Thinking about it, it's not that complicated. Crappy employers are also successful in their careers. A good lawyer or businessperson will know how to manipulate a situation to get what they want. They'll know how to seek out a good nanny and then short change her, have her work longer hours than agreed upon...

Anonymous wrote:I have worked for multiple families who were great communicators. It's all about being assertive and proactive. Thinking through what you want up front and telling the nanny as soon as an issue arises.

How did those particular families find you?

I have worked for multiple families who were great communicators. It's all about being assertive and proactive. Thinking through what you want up front and telling the nanny as soon as an issue arises.

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Anonymous wrote:8:21 makes no sense. It makes me think of how crappy people usually attract other crappy people. Logic would have it that the nicest families would most often attract the better nannies.

Exactly!

8:21 is making the common mistake of confusing "nice" with "pushover."

Families who know what they want and communicated clearly tends to get efficient professional nanny. Families who either can't or won't communicate clearly tend to get nannies who walk all over them.

Please show us a family who knows what they want AND can communicate it clearly. No doubt you are that one in a hundred family, or you work with one. Good for you.

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Anonymous wrote:8:21 makes no sense. It makes me think of how crappy people usually attract other crappy people. Logic would have it that the nicest families would most often attract the better nannies.

Exactly!

8:21 is making the common mistake of confusing "nice" with "pushover."

Families who know what they want and communicated clearly tends to get efficient professional nanny. Families who either can't or won't communicate clearly tend to get nannies who walk all over them.

Anonymous wrote:8:21 makes no sense. It makes me think of how crappy people usually attract other crappy people. Logic would have it that the nicest families would most often attract the better nannies.

Exactly!

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Anonymous wrote:I think the nicest people get the crappiest nannies and nice versa. No clue how it always shakes out that way.

+1

I've always paid well and been super flexible, yet end up with flakes.
It just blows my mind what some of the nannies here put up with in their jobs, I can't understand how crappy employers manage to land good nannies.

Then something is "off". What's your job description and what payrate do you offer?

None of your business. You're obviously one of the shitty nannies who like to bully around kind employers

Thank you. Your response when someone tries to help you, explains your problem perfectly. I'm also a parent, btw.

Nah, you're very clearly a money grubbing nanny.

You're boring and off-track here. Start another thread if you like.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the nicest people get the crappiest nannies and nice versa. No clue how it always shakes out that way.

+1

I've always paid well and been super flexible, yet end up with flakes.
It just blows my mind what some of the nannies here put up with in their jobs, I can't understand how crappy employers manage to land good nannies.

Then something is "off". What's your job description and what payrate do you offer?

None of your business. You're obviously one of the shitty nannies who like to bully around kind employers

Thank you. Your response when someone tries to help you, explains your problem perfectly. I'm also a parent, btw.

Nah, you're very clearly a money grubbing nanny.