Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You knew she was sick. If your meeting was that important, you should have checked in with her and explained that to her last night or earlier yesterday so you had time to find a backup. If she said she was ok and would be in and then called in today, then yes, fire her. If she's otherwise reliable and this is the first incident then you need to have a conversation with her and let her know you need more notice than that for calling in sick. You also need to be registered with an agency that will send someone out on short notice.

This is true, but most employees are allowed sick days, no? What if she overslept because she was sick? Can't be helped? I'm at odds here. She is in her 50's, maybe I should have hired someone younger. Ugh

B.

Yeah because people under 50 are never irresponsible and never oversleep.

Anonymous wrote:As a nanny I am disturbed by reading the comments. You explained how your nanny is flexible for you, normally arrives on time, and comes earlier when needed. And your wondering if you should fire her for being sick? How can she give you notice? She’s literally sick. You should better educate yourself on workers rights. It would be very beneficial for you, and the other demon mom bosses.

You brought back a nearly ten year old post for this? Jesus, the child is in college now and the OP was murdered by her poor husband who couldn’t take her anymore. The nanny won the lottery and is living in Hawaii now.

Not a nanny but I got Covid booster Monday afternoon and was fine
I woke up at 2 am, running a fewer, terrible headache,and my whole body felt like every army that had ever matched was marching over me as I ached souch. I stayed in bed, did not eat but drank water and felt awful. Four days later, I am beginning to feel all right, not fine, just all right. There was no way I could have predicted this as I had no reaction toy first two vaccines. People get sick and it is impossible to predict when you feel well.

Anonymous wrote:My nanny texted me 10 minutes before she was supposed to be here at 7 a.m. to tell me she couldn't make it in because she was too ill. I had to cancel my very important meeting at work and it made me look bad with my employer. She informed me two days earlier that she was sick and I gave her two days off without pay, but expected her on Monday since she had the whole week end to get better.

I feel that I can't count on her, this just can't happen again because my job is too important.

I appreciate that she gets up very early to be here and is often here even earlier on a moment's notice. She has been flexible for me in the past. I pay her by the hour to the penny and do not offer her any type of guaranteed wage, however, I don't think there is any excuse for her giving me 10 minutes notice for being sick.

Should I let her go, or am I being unreasonable?

Please be brutally honest, I can take it. Thanks so much.

Bernadette

You are a terrible employer and I am surprised she has stayed with you at all. Fire her so she can find decent people to work for. You wi gng through nans every two months do have fun.

As a nanny I am disturbed by reading the comments. You explained how your nanny is flexible for you, normally arrives on time, and comes earlier when needed. And your wondering if you should fire her for being sick? How can she give you notice? She’s literally sick. You should better educate yourself on workers rights. It would be very beneficial for you, and the other demon mom bosses.

Sounds like an obvious troll

OMG She is 50 years old give her a break. And the fact that she is not granted aid sick days makes me sick. Also the fact that you pay her to the penny to me as a nanny of many years would make me tell you to kiss my butt and I wouldn't work for you. It is your responsibility to have some sort of back up and I don't care if she was sick or just overslept they are your kids and your responsibility as their mom is to find something for them to do if she is sick. I wouldn't even bring it up to her unless you say something like hey I had to miss my meeting the other day when you were sick can you try to give me a little more notice when you think you won't make it in and leave it at that. I am a mother and a nanny and I understand both sides of the coin but the fact that you are willing to fire her over something this silly makes me think you should look into daycare rather than having a human who is likely to get sick or what if she had been in an accident on her way in and called you to tell you she was stranded on the side of the road then what would you have done? Sometimes parents get so wrapped up in their own schedules they forget we are people too and think that we will get there to watch their precious babies come hell or high water and to be honest if you didn't want to have issues like this arise you shouldn't have had children. I don't get you parents who think that work is more important than your own children! Also how hard would it have been for you to call your boss explain the issue and say can I phone into the meeting? Thats what my boss would have done I have been here for 8 years now and have maybe taken 10 sick days (including having a csection) and I always feel appreciated.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

[b]I think that if you have such an important job and you count on your nanny to be there at a moments notice, that you should be paying some kind of guaranteed hours and give her a few sick days each year.

Totally agree.

Let me get this right....

1 - OP does not give any paid sick days.
2 - OP expects her nanny to come at a "moment's notice" for her.
3 - OP gets pissed b/c her nanny only gave her a "moment's notice" that she couldn't come in, likely b/c she was really sick and was waiting to see if she could handle it b/c SHE GETS NO PAID SICK TIME.
4 - OP's job is "very" important.

Conclusion.

1 - OP is completely self-absorbed and expects her nanny to be at her beck and call, without giving her the same due respect or any benefits that are pretty standard in this industry.

(By the way, this is also why we think you are a bitch).

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+100000000000000

If I didn't get ick pay I'd wait to the last minute too, to see if I was well enough to go to work. This is what happens when you're cheap, OP. Here's the thing: I get 10 sick days per year (note: My employer isn't a shrew like you, OP) and in the 7 years I've worked for this family, I have taken one sick day. ONE. Oh and they also guarantee my hours and pay vacation. Hence the loyalty and 7 years with the same family.

What makes you think if you fire this nanny you'll get someone better? The economy isn't great right now but I can tell you that no one is going to want this job with no benefits, no sick pay, no vacation, no guaranteed hours... And a beck and call MB who doesn't respect her nanny!

You get what you deserve, feel lucky this nanny even took your job, let me guess: She's illegal????

Anonymous wrote:

I think that if you have such an important job and you count on your nanny to be there at a moments notice, that you should be paying some kind of guaranteed hours and give her a few sick days each year.

Totally agree.

Let me get this right....

1 - OP does not give any paid sick days.
2 - OP expects her nanny to come at a "moment's notice" for her.
3 - OP gets pissed b/c her nanny only gave her a "moment's notice" that she couldn't come in, likely b/c she was really sick and was waiting to see if she could handle it b/c SHE GETS NO PAID SICK TIME.
4 - OP's job is "very" important.

Conclusion.

1 - OP is completely self-absorbed and expects her nanny to be at her beck and call, without giving her the same due respect or any benefits that are pretty standard in this industry.

(By the way, this is also why we think you are a bitch).

Anonymous wrote:I think you're right. I guess you get what you pay for. Her drive is 30 to 45 minutes. She probably did oversleep. The kids love her and she goes above and beyond w/them, but, still, no excuse for what she did.

thanks,
B

Actually, there is a really good excuse. Your nanny was sick.

Jeez...does this suck for you? Yes, but such is life when you are a working parent. Unless your nanny does this habitually, I'd thank your lucky stars that you have a nanny that goes above and beyond and that the kids love. Trust me, these things are more important than you missing ONE MEETING.

I am an MB by the way.

If she called 10 minutes before and her commute is 30min, you should at least give her a written warning and clarify your policy in the contract.

I didn't realize any nanny employers didn't guarantee hours. I think that's nuts. How can you expect any loyalty out of your nanny if you don't guarantee the income on which she relies? I pay our nanny the same each week whether she is sick or not, on vacation or not. This is her JOB.

Anonymous wrote:You knew she was sick. If your meeting was that important, you should have checked in with her and explained that to her last night or earlier yesterday so you had time to find a backup. If she said she was ok and would be in and then called in today, then yes, fire her. If she's otherwise reliable and this is the first incident then you need to have a conversation with her and let her know you need more notice than that for calling in sick. You also need to be registered with an agency that will send someone out on short notice.

+1

Here is my opinion.. (I'm a nanny). I would never, ever text in sick, I think it is so unprofessional. I use texting as a constant form of communication with my employer but would never text if I was unable to make it, or would be late, that would always be a phone call and ALWAYS be advanced notice. I've been a nanny for 8 years and can count on one hand the amount of times I've called in sick and it's always been advanced notice..

Maybe talk to your nanny and ask that in the future she give you a heads up the night before if she isn't feeling well (that way you can change your schedule) and ask that she calls you in the morning to let you know whether or not she is feeling better.

Anonymous wrote:My nanny texted me 10 minutes before she was supposed to be here at 7 a.m. to tell me she couldn't make it in because she was too ill. I had to cancel my very important meeting at work and it made me look bad with my employer. She informed me two days earlier that she was sick and I gave her two days off without pay, but expected her on Monday since she had the whole week end to get better.

I feel that I can't count on her, this just can't happen again because my job is too important.

I appreciate that she gets up very early to be here and is often here even earlier on a moment's notice. She has been flexible for me in the past. I pay her by the hour to the penny and do not offer her any type of guaranteed wage, however, I don't think there is any excuse for her giving me 10 minutes notice for being sick.

Should I let her go, or am I being unreasonable?

Please be brutally honest, I can take it. Thanks so much.

Bernadette

I think that if you have such an important job and you count on your nanny to be there at a moments notice, that you should be paying some kind of guaranteed hours and give her a few sick days each year.

Did you tell her that you had an important meeting this morning BEFORE the weekend, that you would need to know at least the night before if she couldn't come in, so that you could make other plans for the kids? Don't you have any kind of backup care set in place? I know 10 minutes is not much time to deal with that, but do you at least have something set up that you can call the night before or an hour or so before you need someone? You really need something like this, this is not her responsibility but yours.

As for calling in late, that was messed up, but there is a chance that if she is sick that she might not have been able to call before then (so tired she slept through alarm, was busy being sick into the toilet, etc). Even with calling in that morning, if someone gets up and gets to work 60-90 minutes later, it can be very short notice anyways if you don't know the night before that you will be sick enough that you have to call in.

I think the way you are acting is going overboard considering how great she has been in the past. This is one incident, not really something that I would fire someone over, but maybe give a warning that you need as much notice as possible, learn to mention when you have an important meeting and you really need her to be on time that day, or mention ahead she can't make it etc.