Anonymous
12/12/2012 14:12
Subject: CPR training
Anonymous wrote:"Tough. She is cheap."
No, she's not. CPR is a basic requirement a serious nanny should have before she gets the job. I think it's generous for an MB to pay for the class alone to help a nanny deficient in her qualifications. No reason to pay her more and reward her for being underqualified.
Even MB who admittd she is generally cheap sgreed nanny should be paid for taking class on her own time. CPR is nice, just like Red Cross life saving class but it is not reasonable to expect all these qualifications from an hourly employee. Being able to dial 911 and understanding and speaking English isshould be moreimportant for a nanny. However, as most of you are skinflints when it comes to paying for childcare, the worse their English, the less they they get paid snd the more work you pile on these unfortunate women.
Anonymous
12/12/2012 13:56
Subject: CPR training
"Tough. She is cheap."
No, she's not. CPR is a basic requirement a serious nanny should have before she gets the job. I think it's generous for an MB to pay for the class alone to help a nanny deficient in her qualifications. No reason to pay her more and reward her for being underqualified.
No, she's not. CPR is a basic requirement a serious nanny should have before she gets the job. I think it's generous for an MB to pay for the class alone to help a nanny deficient in her qualifications. No reason to pay her more and reward her for being underqualified.
Anonymous
12/11/2012 16:45
Subject: CPR training
MB here - we recently asked our nanny to take a CPR class. We paid for the class and for the few hours she spent there. I'll confess that I'm generally a cheap person but it didn't seem fair to ask her to work outside of her scheduled time and not compensate her since she was only there because we asked her to be. I get that some nannies might just keep the credentials and use them for their own benefit, but I think anything you learn on one job can be used in future positions. I know my past employer certainly sent me to trainings that I use now in my current job. As for the overtime issue, maybe you could try and offset some of the hours during the pay period?
Anonymous
12/09/2012 17:08
Subject: Re:CPR training
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm an MB (not OP) who would be happy to pay for the class, do nannies feel they also should be paid for their time taking the class? That's a lot to swallow particularly if it made hours over 40 in the week and needed to be paid at an overtime rate...
If this is a prequisite for the job and she has to use her time, why shouldn't you pay her? You are really cheap.
This last sentence in your comment is the reason dcum forums always devolve.
Tough. She is cheap.
Anonymous
Anonymous
12/08/2012 13:54
Subject: Re:CPR training
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm an MB (not OP) who would be happy to pay for the class, do nannies feel they also should be paid for their time taking the class? That's a lot to swallow particularly if it made hours over 40 in the week and needed to be paid at an overtime rate...
If this is a prequisite for the job and she has to use her time, why shouldn't you pay her? You are really cheap.
This last sentence in your comment is the reason dcum forums always devolve.
Anonymous
12/08/2012 10:21
Subject: Re:CPR training
Anonymous wrote:I'm an MB (not OP) who would be happy to pay for the class, do nannies feel they also should be paid for their time taking the class? That's a lot to swallow particularly if it made hours over 40 in the week and needed to be paid at an overtime rate...
If this is a prequisite for the job and she has to use her time, why shouldn't you pay her? You are really cheap.
Anonymous
12/07/2012 23:40
Subject: Re:CPR training
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm an MB (not OP) who would be happy to pay for the class, do nannies feel they also should be paid for their time taking the class? That's a lot to swallow particularly if it made hours over 40 in the week and needed to be paid at an overtime rate...
I almost responded earlier and then I had to reconsider my position. As a nanny, I could see either side of this.
Firstly, I think a professional nanny should already have this certification or should have signed up for a class on her own if it's expired. A nanny whose employer has to mandate this training is not especially concerned with the safety of her charges or her own reputation, and so I am a little suspicious of that to begin.
Secondly, I think (and have posted here) that any employer-mandated trainings should be paid for by the employer (likewise with employer-mandated vaccinations).
As for the time being spent in the class, I'm conflicted. My CPR/First Aid combo class was an entire Saturday and it feels unreasonable to ask someone to give up an entire day of their life without pay for something their boss wants done. In other fields, trainings are scheduled during regular working hours (paid) or paid as OT if on off-hours, and I struggle to see why a nanny shouldn't have her time respected in the same way. On the other hand, this is a basic skill s/he needs to have when caring for other people's children, so I understand why an employer would balk at paying OT for their nanny to take the class. I suppose with all of that laid out, I would land just on the side of "no, she shouldn't be paid for that time" ONLY because I personally think she should have had the training before getting hired. If a nanny needed to be paid for those hours, however, I could appreciate her argument for that being fair (for example, if she normally takes other on-call or PT jobs during her off hours and will suffer a loss of income for having to give up a job for the class).
I feel the same way as PP...
Anonymous
12/07/2012 15:22
Subject: Re:CPR training
Anonymous wrote:I'm an MB (not OP) who would be happy to pay for the class, do nannies feel they also should be paid for their time taking the class? That's a lot to swallow particularly if it made hours over 40 in the week and needed to be paid at an overtime rate...
I almost responded earlier and then I had to reconsider my position. As a nanny, I could see either side of this.
Firstly, I think a professional nanny should already have this certification or should have signed up for a class on her own if it's expired. A nanny whose employer has to mandate this training is not especially concerned with the safety of her charges or her own reputation, and so I am a little suspicious of that to begin.
Secondly, I think (and have posted here) that any employer-mandated trainings should be paid for by the employer (likewise with employer-mandated vaccinations).
As for the time being spent in the class, I'm conflicted. My CPR/First Aid combo class was an entire Saturday and it feels unreasonable to ask someone to give up an entire day of their life without pay for something their boss wants done. In other fields, trainings are scheduled during regular working hours (paid) or paid as OT if on off-hours, and I struggle to see why a nanny shouldn't have her time respected in the same way. On the other hand, this is a basic skill s/he needs to have when caring for other people's children, so I understand why an employer would balk at paying OT for their nanny to take the class. I suppose with all of that laid out, I would land just on the side of "no, she shouldn't be paid for that time" ONLY because I personally think she should have had the training before getting hired. If a nanny needed to be paid for those hours, however, I could appreciate her argument for that being fair (for example, if she normally takes other on-call or PT jobs during her off hours and will suffer a loss of income for having to give up a job for the class).
Anonymous
12/07/2012 14:41
Subject: Re:CPR training
Anonymous wrote:I'm an MB (not OP) who would be happy to pay for the class, do nannies feel they also should be paid for their time taking the class? That's a lot to swallow particularly if it made hours over 40 in the week and needed to be paid at an overtime rate...
I don't feel that I should be compensated for my time while taking a CPR class that falls outside of my normal schedule. It's a few hours of my time every two years for peace of mind that I am prepared for a respiratory or cardiac emergency. The potential benefits greatly outweigh the loss of a few hours of personal time.
Anonymous
12/07/2012 08:28
Subject: CPR training
I for one would be more than happy to take the class if my employer paid for it and would not expect to be paid for the time spent in class. While I might not remain certified by the time I might get another job, this is an extremely important skill to have and sort of separates the professionals from the warm bodies.
Anonymous
12/07/2012 08:23
Subject: Re:CPR training
I'm an MB (not OP) who would be happy to pay for the class, do nannies feel they also should be paid for their time taking the class? That's a lot to swallow particularly if it made hours over 40 in the week and needed to be paid at an overtime rate...