Anonymous
Post 07/29/2013 14:26     Subject: The $15 per hour nanny
Anonymous wrote:Good quality nannies make between $20-$25; the problem is most people here can't really afford nannies and so the confusion starts. They hire glorified babysitters and expect things to run as they would with a professional nanny. That's not how it works. The people here who are paying $15 and such are people who shouldn't even have nannies; they are barely breaking the income bracket that nannies are mostly used in. and often time, the MB is JUST making enough to cover the nanny salary and they end up living off of DH's 60K yearly income alone. If you're a professional nanny you'll find a professional job and make anywhere from $20-$25 no problem.

I wonder how you explain then the preponderance of happy nanny employers in the reported $14-$18 range? Is it your theory that these nannies should be charging more (because there is an unexplored pool of $20-$25 jobs waiting for them), or that these parents don't know what a good nanny is, and are therefore happy with what they get?yes
Anonymous
Post 07/29/2013 13:07     Subject: The $15 per hour nanny
Anonymous wrote:$15. an hour is UNEXCEPTABLE for an exceptional seriously experienced nanny of 20 years.

For parents who settle for bargain immigrant labor, we get what we pay for, just like in the rest of America. We think it's such a deal, until the child can't speak age-appropriate English, or has other problems down the road.


They are babysitters! What the hell should they make? Yes, it is our children but my goodness, why would someone get to make more than 1/2 our population to watch a child. They sit around the parks and talk to their friends. Feed, and protect the little one they are in charge of, it isn't that hard. 15 is great money for an uneducated immigrant or an educated student out of school. It is 15 an hour!!
Anonymous
Post 07/29/2013 11:34     Subject: The $15 per hour nanny
Good quality nannies make between $20-$25; the problem is most people here can't really afford nannies and so the confusion starts. They hire glorified babysitters and expect things to run as they would with a professional nanny. That's not how it works. The people here who are paying $15 and such are people who shouldn't even have nannies; they are barely breaking the income bracket that nannies are mostly used in. and often time, the MB is JUST making enough to cover the nanny salary and they end up living off of DH's 60K yearly income alone. If you're a professional nanny you'll find a professional job and make anywhere from $20-$25 no problem.
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2013 15:07     Subject: The $15 per hour nanny
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Give it a rest, PP. You lost this thread pages ago.

There is such a thing as a market and concepts such as supply and demand that set the rates for the costs of goods and services.

These are verifiable in any intro economics textbook you want to read. Please. School yourself. Your ignorance is embarrassing to all nannies.

Seems you've lost your focus. Naturally there's a market and market value. What you fail to understand, however, is that when you claim a concrete value as defined by the market, your numbers must be based on actual data.

What data do you have to support your "market rate" nanny? Girlfriends? No.

You'd be laughed out of Economics 101.

Please try again for us.


Here's your focus, 17:18.
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2013 15:06     Subject: The $15 per hour nanny
Anonymous wrote:Give it a rest, PP. You lost this thread pages ago.

There is such a thing as a market and concepts such as supply and demand that set the rates for the costs of goods and services.

These are verifiable in any intro economics textbook you want to read. Please. School yourself. Your ignorance is embarrassing to all nannies.

What are you talking about? Do you have a clue?
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2013 11:48     Subject: Re:The $15 per hour nanny
Give it a rest, PP. You lost this thread pages ago.

There is such a thing as a market and concepts such as supply and demand that set the rates for the costs of goods and services.

These are verifiable in any intro economics textbook you want to read. Please. School yourself. Your ignorance is embarrassing to all nannies.


+1000
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2013 20:47     Subject: The $15 per hour nanny
Anonymous wrote:Give it a rest, PP. You lost this thread pages ago.

There is such a thing as a market and concepts such as supply and demand that set the rates for the costs of goods and services.

These are verifiable in any intro economics textbook you want to read. Please. School yourself. Your ignorance is embarrassing to all nannies.

Seems you've lost your focus. Naturally there's a market and market value. What you fail to understand, however, is that when you claim a concrete value as defined by the market, your numbers must be based on actual data.

What data do you have to support your "market rate" nanny? Girlfriends? No.

You'd be laughed out of Economics 101.

Please try again for us.

Anonymous
Post 07/19/2013 17:18     Subject: The $15 per hour nanny
Give it a rest, PP. You lost this thread pages ago.

There is such a thing as a market and concepts such as supply and demand that set the rates for the costs of goods and services.

These are verifiable in any intro economics textbook you want to read. Please. School yourself. Your ignorance is embarrassing to all nannies.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2013 16:41     Subject: The $15 per hour nanny
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Market rates are not a myth, PP, and you should probably take a course or two in economics if the concept is so strange to you.

In which course did you learn that the nanny market rate is determined by whatever your girlfriends tell you?

There's zero verifiable data the market rate of a nanny. People can't even agree about what is a nanny.

Please do share what you learned in your economics class that would establish a market rate on girlfriend gossip.

Thanks!


*on the
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2013 16:39     Subject: The $15 per hour nanny
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Market rates are not a myth, PP, and you should probably take a course or two in economics if the concept is so strange to you.

In which course did you learn that the nanny market rate is determined by whatever your girlfriends tell you?

There's zero verifiable data the market rate of a nanny. People can't even agree about what is a nanny.

Please do share what you learned in your economics class that would establish a market rate on girlfriend gossip.

Thanks!

Anonymous
Post 07/19/2013 10:13     Subject: The $15 per hour nanny
Anonymous wrote:Very few nannies in this area make $20+ an hour, PP.

Part of the reason nannies don't get jobs that pay that high is that there is no real definition of 'professional'. There are no credentials that say one kind of nanny is of higher quality than another. It's true that you only need to convince one family you are worth $20 an hour, but that is hard here when there are many great nannies on the market with your same skills available for $15-$18 an hour. Child care is not a skilled profession, which is why there are so many nannies out there. This is how markets work.

Unfortunately, most Americans think a nanny is the same as a sitter. Hence the rampant confusion here.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2013 09:58     Subject: The $15 per hour nanny
Very few nannies in this area make $20+ an hour, PP.

Part of the reason nannies don't get jobs that pay that high is that there is no real definition of 'professional'. There are no credentials that say one kind of nanny is of higher quality than another. It's true that you only need to convince one family you are worth $20 an hour, but that is hard here when there are many great nannies on the market with your same skills available for $15-$18 an hour. Child care is not a skilled profession, which is why there are so many nannies out there. This is how markets work.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2013 08:37     Subject: Re:The $15 per hour nanny
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:$15 an hour average is still pretty good in this area. Its far from a starting salary and its hard to find any jobs that pay
more than $15.


It all depends on the area. Other markets do have a different "starting salary" and $15/hr can be a starting nanny rate for very little experience (maybe just with that age group), or could be the average rate for what is just a "sitter" that has several years of experience.

Exactly. $15/hr is a sitter rate.

....in the DC area. Professional nannies are 20-25/hr or even better.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2013 08:11     Subject: Re:The $15 per hour nanny
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:$15 an hour average is still pretty good in this area. Its far from a starting salary and its hard to find any jobs that pay more than $15.


It all depends on the area. Other markets do have a different "starting salary" and $15/hr can be a starting nanny rate for very little experience (maybe just with that age group), or could be the average rate for what is just a "sitter" that has several years of experience.

Exactly. $15/hr is a sitter rate.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2013 03:05     Subject: Re:The $15 per hour nanny
Anonymous wrote:$15 an hour average is still pretty good in this area. Its far from a starting salary and its hard to find any jobs that pay more than $15.


It all depends on the area. Other markets do have a different "starting salary" and $15/hr can be a starting nanny rate for very little experience (maybe just with that age group), or could be the average rate for what is just a "sitter" that has several years of experience.