Anonymous
Post 03/31/2013 00:27     Subject: Politely declined potential nanny due to her size
nannydebsays wrote:So what it basically comes down to is an individual's choice of a nanny based on appearance.

But the appearance of being thin isn't everything - those of you who focus solely on the visible need to keep that in mind.

As an example, in high school, I was pretty lazy, didn't eat all that well, but was a fairly acceptable size - 13/14. Big, but not huge. Within the "normal" range on the BMI charts.

I gained a LOT of weight in the next years. Some due to PCOS, a lot due to poor food choices and lack of exercise. I decided to lose weight (thanks phen-fen for not killing me, BTW!) and actually worked hard to do so. Ate right, worked out daily, etc.

And I lost weight. I was back down to a size 14. It was awesome. Funny thing though? I weighed 50+ lbs. more than I had in high school. I was technically "obese".

But hell, I looked like I was "normal", and that's all that matters, right? The fact that I was in very different states of "health" at exactly the same acceptable size doesn't matter, correct?

Judgement of the visual is a stupid way to go. Human, but still stupid. Maybe a better way to judge is a person can do a job is to ask them to do it for a day or two, and see whether they can manage the physical or not.


What a touching story.. NOT.. Everyone judges everyones appearance. Point Blank!

Why would someone paying a decent amount of time want a unhealthy person caring for their active, growing children? Yes, you can still be unhealthy thin but you take your chance. If you're obese then the chance is much lower.

Overweight people run out of breathe faster, get tired faster, and generally have bad eating habits. Like another poster said, you don't get that way by eating carrot sticks all day.
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2013 19:52     Subject: Re:Politely declined potential nanny due to her size
I hope so very many of you get fat so I can laugh in your faces. I especially hope that you develop PCOS and a thyroid issue so it's really really hard to lose the weight and then I can laugh all the harder while you bitches cry about it.
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2013 19:52     Subject: Politely declined potential nanny due to her size
Anonymous wrote:I get frustrated when people think it's always as simple as eating right and exercising. For some people? Of course. Personally, I know I became overweight because of an unhealthy lifestyle. I'm working on changing it but it's going to be a long process. That's ok. But then I look at my mom. She's one of the healthiest eaters I know. She rarely eats junk food and doesn't eat a lot of processed foods. She's fairly active as well. Yet she can't seem to get below a size 12. She has a tummy. It's not because she sits on the couch and eats. For some reason she can't lose the extra weight.

Everyone's body is different.


Also, many people don't take into account other factors like bone size and muscle mass. When I am at my most skinny (as in my doctor has told me to not lose any more weight), I am at a size 8/10. I have large bones, you cannot deny this when my hips are wide enough that I cannot fit into pants that are anything smaller than an 8 yet you can wrap your fingers partially around my hip bones (giving them a sunken-in gaunt look), same with my collarbone. I also have lots of muscle in my legs and buttocks. Whether it is toned or not, it is still there. Muscle weighs more than fat does. I still weigh 138-142 lbs at a size 8/10, yet I don't have a thick layer of fat padding me at that size at all. It would be unhealthy for me to weigh less than that. Due to the size and weight of my body while skinny, me having more fat than I really need on me means I weigh much more than someone would think. You cannot use normal BMI levels on me at all. Going by my weight and height alone will give you different results that what I am actually at.

So if I am really just 30 lbs overweight for what my doctors say is an ideal weight for me, then I would hate to have a potential MB not hire me because it looks to her that I am actually 50-60 lbs overweight and she doesn't think I am a good fit for her position.
nannydebsays
Post 03/29/2013 18:07     Subject: Politely declined potential nanny due to her size
So what it basically comes down to is an individual's choice of a nanny based on appearance.

But the appearance of being thin isn't everything - those of you who focus solely on the visible need to keep that in mind.

As an example, in high school, I was pretty lazy, didn't eat all that well, but was a fairly acceptable size - 13/14. Big, but not huge. Within the "normal" range on the BMI charts.

I gained a LOT of weight in the next years. Some due to PCOS, a lot due to poor food choices and lack of exercise. I decided to lose weight (thanks phen-fen for not killing me, BTW!) and actually worked hard to do so. Ate right, worked out daily, etc.

And I lost weight. I was back down to a size 14. It was awesome. Funny thing though? I weighed 50+ lbs. more than I had in high school. I was technically "obese".

But hell, I looked like I was "normal", and that's all that matters, right? The fact that I was in very different states of "health" at exactly the same acceptable size doesn't matter, correct?

Judgement of the visual is a stupid way to go. Human, but still stupid. Maybe a better way to judge is a person can do a job is to ask them to do it for a day or two, and see whether they can manage the physical or not.
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2013 18:00     Subject: Politely declined potential nanny due to her size
I have never met anyone with a theroid problem. I know it happens but it's overrated. Every single overweight person I know has been that way due to overeating and lack of exercise. Some eat 3x a serving size each meal and assume they eat healthy just because it's not 'junk food'.. Overeating is overeating.

I know large people who lost weight and guess how they all did it? No magic pill but instead they exercised and ate healthy foods in MODERATION!
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2013 17:53     Subject: Politely declined potential nanny due to her size
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nope..I am not thin because of my microbes. I am thin because it's important to me..so I eat vegetables and fruits all day long, get my cardio in and get to yoga..


Did you even read the article?

Microbial treatments were as effective AS THE GASTRIC BYPASS. The microbes affect metabolism and energy expenditure, something you cannot change more than a little bit through exercise. Your gut flora is an enormous component of why you are able to maintain your weight. I get that people want to view themselves as superior because they make certain choices, but consider that other people's bodies don't process sugar/fat/carbs the same way yours does, other people's brains don't react to hunger signals the way yours does, and so on. While one DOES have to make healthy choices to be healthy, it is not the same journey for everyone.

I can't understand this. We understand the people's bodies work differently, right? So why should the body's processing of food be considered universal? This is not just an issue of "willpower."


Will power is a very big part when changing ones lifestyle. I don't like calling it a diet, I call it a lifestyle change and it takes will power to really focus on your goal of changing the way you consume food and exercise.
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2013 17:51     Subject: Politely declined potential nanny due to her size
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I noticed 9 out of 10 overweight people almost ALWAYS brag about how healthy they eat, how much they exercise and how energetic they are. I also noticed more then one nanny on this thread saying this and then going on to talk badly about skinny nannies.

Dissing skinny nannies isn't going to make the big ones look better. Your not fooling anyone.


Also I don't see any dissing of lifestyle choices to skinny nannies, I only see dissing of the way that the skinny nannies are speaking and calling out those who are not the same size as them.


There is dissing of skinny nannies. Reread the thread. I seen atleast two poster comparing themselves to skinny nannies. Saying they eat healthy and exercise and talk about all the wonderful things they do with their charge. They then went on to say how they no a skinny nanny who eats junk and isn't a good nanny/lazy/.
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2013 16:41     Subject: Politely declined potential nanny due to her size
Well many of you have your head up your asses. If you're eating anything out of a package containing preservatives it's not "healthy".

When 70% of our nation is overweight/obese, it's no wonder this is such a touchy issue. Being overweight even is directly correlated to type two diabetes, heart disease, sleep apnea, cancer, stroke, heart attacks, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, joint/bone problems, etc.

Anonymous
Post 03/29/2013 13:25     Subject: Politely declined potential nanny due to her size
Anonymous wrote:Obese nannies, please don't try to make others feel sorry for your unhealthy decisions. If someone is truly obese because of a medical problem and that only--meaning they otherwise lead a healthy lifestyle then ok sure, I'm sorry for you. But if you expect me to sympathize with you because you choose to eat junk and not exercise, no. Absolutely not. Everyone is capable of being healthy and active no matter what your resources may consist of. I get it. Gym memberships are expensive. Walking is free.


Exactly. Many times it is because of the fatty foods you eat and the lack of exercise. While some MAY have a medical issue, not all obese people do-- that is just an excuse some use to get away eith it.
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2013 13:22     Subject: Re:Politely declined potential nanny due to her size
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To the rude poster who said to the thyroid nanny that I wouldn't be fat if I gave a damn. I actually do give a damn. I eat healthy every day and I work out 5 days a week on top of chasing 2 little one's around all day. You should be ashamed of yourself for being so rude and making such assumptions about someone you don't even know. I figured out something was wrong medically because I am active daily and eat very healthy and went to my doctor and found out I had a problem. I am very upset to have gained all this weight and am really working hard to lose it. It has not changed my ability to care for the children that I take care of 40+ hours a week. Their mother is even aware of what is going on and has been very supportive of my weight loss efforts and has been one of my biggest cheerleaders. I am disgusted with your comments. Everyone saying you do not get fat by being healthy is wrong. Some people get fat by being unhealthy and others such as myself got fat but not through fault of their own. I don't pig out and sit on my butt all day. Some of you really need to think about your judgmental attitude. I am officially done with this board. I know no one cares about that but just figured I would put that out there because a lot of you are ruining these boards for those of us who come here for the right reasons. Please find something better to do with your time and stop being so critical of others. I apologize for any typos or grammatical errors but I'm really to upset to care right now.


Ok. I am the rude judgmental posted that said this. I am aware having issues with thyroid can cause weight issues. I unfortunately started with an idea and ran with it I don't regret what I said except for this one. I am sorry for hurting your feelings. I have never had to deal with weight issues, and for me to lose weigh is easy, but I'm not into to be skinny...I am in it to be healthy, so weight issues just don't really bother, but they do to a lot of other people and I should be more considerate of this. Again, I am sorry for hurting your feelings. As for the ones that plant their behinds on the couch or snack on crap, I don't regret what I said to you!!


I wouldn't. EVERY obese person has said that they are overweight due to a thyroid problem. While some may,some use it as an excuse for being obese. Look at your eating habits and lack of exercise.
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2013 10:36     Subject: Politely declined potential nanny due to her size
I get frustrated when people think it's always as simple as eating right and exercising. For some people? Of course. Personally, I know I became overweight because of an unhealthy lifestyle. I'm working on changing it but it's going to be a long process. That's ok. But then I look at my mom. She's one of the healthiest eaters I know. She rarely eats junk food and doesn't eat a lot of processed foods. She's fairly active as well. Yet she can't seem to get below a size 12. She has a tummy. It's not because she sits on the couch and eats. For some reason she can't lose the extra weight.

Everyone's body is different.
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2013 10:18     Subject: Politely declined potential nanny due to her size
Anonymous wrote:Nope..I am not thin because of my microbes. I am thin because it's important to me..so I eat vegetables and fruits all day long, get my cardio in and get to yoga..


Did you even read the article?

Microbial treatments were as effective AS THE GASTRIC BYPASS. The microbes affect metabolism and energy expenditure, something you cannot change more than a little bit through exercise. Your gut flora is an enormous component of why you are able to maintain your weight. I get that people want to view themselves as superior because they make certain choices, but consider that other people's bodies don't process sugar/fat/carbs the same way yours does, other people's brains don't react to hunger signals the way yours does, and so on. While one DOES have to make healthy choices to be healthy, it is not the same journey for everyone.

I can't understand this. We understand the people's bodies work differently, right? So why should the body's processing of food be considered universal? This is not just an issue of "willpower."
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2013 09:59     Subject: Politely declined potential nanny due to her size
Nope..I am not thin because of my microbes. I am thin because it's important to me..so I eat vegetables and fruits all day long, get my cardio in and get to yoga..
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2013 09:20     Subject: Re:Politely declined potential nanny due to her size
If you're thin, give thanks for your microbes...

http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/34866/title/Microbes-Affect-Weight-Loss/
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2013 05:55     Subject: Politely declined potential nanny due to her size
OP Here - I already responded back the other day regarding my reasons. I am very sorry if I came across as judgemental or ignorant (like some have stated). I have nothing wrong with overweight people in general, just in the childcare field.

I didn't think so many people would get offended so again, I'm sorry.