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Anonymous wrote:I just had a parent ask me to come at 8:45, to start at 9am. She was shocked I billed her for an 8:45 start time. Hello! If you want me there at 8:45, you can pay me to start at 8:45.

you billed her? Like gave her a bill?

Good for her.

Anonymous wrote:I just had a parent ask me to come at 8:45, to start at 9am. She was shocked I billed her for an 8:45 start time. Hello! If you want me there at 8:45, you can pay me to start at 8:45.

you billed her? Like gave her a bill?

I just had a parent ask me to come at 8:45, to start at 9am. She was shocked I billed her for an 8:45 start time. Hello! If you want me there at 8:45, you can pay me to start at 8:45.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our nanny’s start time is 8am and she usually walks in the door at 8am, perhaps 8:02am. Granted she has washed her hands as is operational within a minute or two, I’m finding myself becoming a bit irritated. We’re only talking about a handful of minutes difference, I know, but with 2 under 2 and the baby up at 6am, every additional minute feels like 5 and I’m counting down the seconds until she arrives. At the end of the day, however, she’s never running out the door and she always stays for a little chat and debrief.

The obvious answer is to ask her if she could start earlier, at least until the little one can sleep in a bit longer, as the cost clearly justifies the need. But I’m just curious as to others’ morning handoffs.

You can’t have it both ways. If she arrives 5 minutes early every day so she’s ready to start at 8, PLUS you want a run down at the end of each day a few minutes past her end time, that’s 10 minutes every day. 50 minutes a week. 2600 minutes a year. Nearly 43 hours. You want the extra time? Pay her.

This 100%
Her time is valuable so need nanny in early, pay her the extra time.

Anonymous wrote:Our nanny’s start time is 8am and she usually walks in the door at 8am, perhaps 8:02am. Granted she has washed her hands as is operational within a minute or two, I’m finding myself becoming a bit irritated. We’re only talking about a handful of minutes difference, I know, but with 2 under 2 and the baby up at 6am, every additional minute feels like 5 and I’m counting down the seconds until she arrives. At the end of the day, however, she’s never running out the door and she always stays for a little chat and debrief.

The obvious answer is to ask her if she could start earlier, at least until the little one can sleep in a bit longer, as the cost clearly justifies the need. But I’m just curious as to others’ morning handoffs.

You can’t have it both ways. If she arrives 5 minutes early every day so she’s ready to start at 8, PLUS you want a run down at the end of each day a few minutes past her end time, that’s 10 minutes every day. 50 minutes a week. 2600 minutes a year. Nearly 43 hours. You want the extra time? Pay her.

I agree with others that you should probably ask for a 7:45 start time since you really need more help in the mornings.

I just have to say it strikes me how differently nannies view their jobs than every other job I've been in. When I worked retail, I had to clock in and be ready to work at the start of my shift. So, if I had an 8am start I would need to arrive early enough to put things in my locker, use the bathroom, make sure I'm ready, etc. When I started working corporate jobs, it was similar. I was expected to start work at 9am, which meant arriving a few minutes early. Only now that I've worked my way up to more senior positions do I have some more flexibility with start time.

Anonymous wrote:Our nanny’s start time is 8am and she usually walks in the door at 8am, perhaps 8:02am. Granted she has washed her hands as is operational within a minute or two, I’m finding myself becoming a bit irritated. We’re only talking about a handful of minutes difference, I know, but with 2 under 2 and the baby up at 6am, every additional minute feels like 5 and I’m counting down the seconds until she arrives. At the end of the day, however, she’s never running out the door and she always stays for a little chat and debrief.

The obvious answer is to ask her if she could start earlier, at least until the little one can sleep in a bit longer, as the cost clearly justifies the need. But I’m just curious as to others’ morning handoffs.

Are you paying her for five extra minutes every day? That is 1.4 OT every month. Unless you pay her to be there 5 minutes early every day. She does not need to be there early.

You need to stop complaining and start being appreciative that she doesn't run out the door the minute you arrive home. Your choice to have two children much too close together is on you not her. Keep complaining and she's going to leave.

Ours shows up a few minutes early to use the bathroom, put food in the fridge, etc. We try not to let the kids bother her too much until the official start time. However, I think this is more a reflection of people's personal attitudes about time. If she views it as no big deal to leave a couple minutes late, it's not surprising if she has the same attitude about arriving a couple minutes late. How big a deal this is to you depends on your schedule and preferences. By all means if you need more time in the morning, schedule and pay her starting at 7:45. Just be aware that she'll probably walk in at 7:47 unless you have a talk about different expectations.

We've had two different nannies, plus several subs along the way when they've been on vacation.

Consistently, start time is arrival time. They show up at the time they're starting. Just like I would never say anything to a friend who was a couple minutes late to meeting me, nor would I be happy if my boss commented on me being a few minutes late, I would never penalize a nanny for arriving less than five minutes late. I know you're barely hanging on, but that's a rounding error.

That does mean that if you're working from home, and your nanny works 8am-5pm, you can only work, at most, 8:10 to 4:50pm. Transition time from you to the nanny and back is on the clock for her. If you're routinely coming to relieve her at exactly 5pm, that's really unfair. If you pay her until 5pm, she should be walking out the door at 5pm.

If you need more time, expand her hours.

Hope you get more sleep soon!

Anonymous wrote:I've walked into work at the exact minute of my start time for 20 years. If a family needs to me to arrive earlier, I would expect them to note that or I'd have no idea. My work place is someone's home. If I walk in early I'd be nervous to catch my dad boss in his boxers or similar. It has never crossed my mind that a family wants me to enter their home prior to my start time so it wouldn't even be on my radar.

OP here: Thanks for that good point, the privacy element hadn’t crossed my mind.

I’m sure I’ll be less cranky about the two minutes once I’m getting more sleep and the mornings are less hectic.

If you want your Nanny earlier than 8AM I suggest you ask her if she could come at 7:45AM but you’d need to make sure she gets compensated the extra hour and let her leave a few minutes early on Fridays.
PS: if she comes 15 min early every day it’s about 1hour and 15 min of her time every week.

I've walked into work at the exact minute of my start time for 20 years. If a family needs to me to arrive earlier, I would expect them to note that or I'd have no idea. My work place is someone's home. If I walk in early I'd be nervous to catch my dad boss in his boxers or similar. It has never crossed my mind that a family wants me to enter their home prior to my start time so it wouldn't even be on my radar.

I would arrive between 755-8 if it was me and I was getting paid to start at 8. What time do you pay her til and what time does she actually walk out? If you pay her until 5pm and then you expect a chat and debrief until 510 every day that’s being rude on your end.

Nanny arrives at 7:55 for 8am start. If you need an earlier start, ask and pay her to start earlier. I think a minute or two over is fine.

Our nanny’s start time is 8am and she usually walks in the door at 8am, perhaps 8:02am. Granted she has washed her hands as is operational within a minute or two, I’m finding myself becoming a bit irritated. We’re only talking about a handful of minutes difference, I know, but with 2 under 2 and the baby up at 6am, every additional minute feels like 5 and I’m counting down the seconds until she arrives. At the end of the day, however, she’s never running out the door and she always stays for a little chat and debrief.

The obvious answer is to ask her if she could start earlier, at least until the little one can sleep in a bit longer, as the cost clearly justifies the need. But I’m just curious as to others’ morning handoffs.