Anonymous
06/11/2021 13:09
Subject: Re:Unusual nanny job-help me make a decision!
Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe here that a PP has zero qualms about being monitored by a camera + an app that lets the parents know how long their child is crying for!!
I think this sounds absolutely ridiculous even in this day & age.
This would be micromanagement at its finest.
You couldn’t pay me a million…
I advocate for cameras. They've saved me a few times when kids had bumps and bruises that were self-inflicted.
The app is new to me, but in combination with a camera, so that they can see what I've tried and what works? No problem.
Anonymous
06/11/2021 04:50
Subject: Re:Unusual nanny job-help me make a decision!
I cannot believe here that a PP has zero qualms about being monitored by a camera + an app that lets the parents know how long their child is crying for!!
I think this sounds absolutely ridiculous even in this day & age.
This would be micromanagement at its finest.
You couldn’t pay me a million…
I think this sounds absolutely ridiculous even in this day & age.
This would be micromanagement at its finest.
You couldn’t pay me a million…
Anonymous
06/11/2021 04:12
Subject: Re:Unusual nanny job-help me make a decision!
Anonymous wrote:Update from OP
Now find that I would be paid hourly for the insane schedule and the rate is $22/hour . No differential for the long hours, evenings overnights and weekends about 2/3 of the hours are evening , night or weekend . Live -out position .
Also be expected to work 2-3 major holidays per year plus the surrounding 4-5 days.
Included in duties are errands/grocery shopping/meal prep/laundry . Since the baby is nursing , the meals would be for parents .
Grandparents would be popping by to visit . Family vacations away would be unpaid for me . No pto/sick time/insurance/mileage/perks.
I am not taking this job , but stunning what people will ask for . …and maybe they’ll find someone to do it .
Oh also they made it clear that I would be monitored by camera and also have an app to detect crying and how long crying lasts so they know exactly what is occurring at home .
Maybe they can get an app that takes care of their baby ! Or a robot !
Thanks all for your input .
8.39 again.
No issues with camera or app for me. Nights and weekends are also fine with me. But I don't do live-out, and there's no way I'd take this job at just $35k. My rate would be 130 hours for the month, $900 weekly, for $46,800/year. However, all the hours would be on the clock (no 3-5 hours off in between shifts, especially with an infant), and all the extra duties would be done during working hours (no housework/cooking on my time).
No benefits is a dealbreaker, unless they want to raise my salary sufficiently so that I can pay it myself without a change in pay. Just leaving out sick leave, vacation and pto is ridiculous.
Grandparents are iffy. Are they truly "popping by" or are they planning on coming several times and staying for a while each time? How do they foresee the position changing during those times?
Totally understand why you're passing, OP.
Anonymous
06/11/2021 03:11
Subject: Re:Unusual nanny job-help me make a decision!
Anonymous wrote:Update from OP
Now find that I would be paid hourly for the insane schedule and the rate is $22/hour . No differential for the long hours, evenings overnights and weekends about 2/3 of the hours are evening , night or weekend . Live -out position .
Also be expected to work 2-3 major holidays per year plus the surrounding 4-5 days.
Included in duties are errands/grocery shopping/meal prep/laundry . Since the baby is nursing , the meals would be for parents .
Grandparents would be popping by to visit . Family vacations away would be unpaid for me . No pto/sick time/insurance/mileage/perks.
I am not taking this job , but stunning what people will ask for . …and maybe they’ll find someone to do it .
Oh also they made it clear that I would be monitored by camera and also have an app to detect crying and how long crying lasts so they know exactly what is occurring at home .
Maybe they can get an app that takes care of their baby ! Or a robot !
Thanks all for your input .
Camera's are fine but $22 an hour/no benefits or OT is insane for that kind of demanding job. $22 an hour for one child is fine but they need to pay a premium.
Anonymous
06/10/2021 22:53
Subject: Re:Unusual nanny job-help me make a decision!
Update from OP
Now find that I would be paid hourly for the insane schedule and the rate is $22/hour . No differential for the long hours, evenings overnights and weekends about 2/3 of the hours are evening , night or weekend . Live -out position .
Also be expected to work 2-3 major holidays per year plus the surrounding 4-5 days.
Included in duties are errands/grocery shopping/meal prep/laundry . Since the baby is nursing , the meals would be for parents .
Grandparents would be popping by to visit . Family vacations away would be unpaid for me . No pto/sick time/insurance/mileage/perks.
I am not taking this job , but stunning what people will ask for . …and maybe they’ll find someone to do it .
Oh also they made it clear that I would be monitored by camera and also have an app to detect crying and how long crying lasts so they know exactly what is occurring at home .
Maybe they can get an app that takes care of their baby ! Or a robot !
Thanks all for your input .
Now find that I would be paid hourly for the insane schedule and the rate is $22/hour . No differential for the long hours, evenings overnights and weekends about 2/3 of the hours are evening , night or weekend . Live -out position .
Also be expected to work 2-3 major holidays per year plus the surrounding 4-5 days.
Included in duties are errands/grocery shopping/meal prep/laundry . Since the baby is nursing , the meals would be for parents .
Grandparents would be popping by to visit . Family vacations away would be unpaid for me . No pto/sick time/insurance/mileage/perks.
I am not taking this job , but stunning what people will ask for . …and maybe they’ll find someone to do it .
Oh also they made it clear that I would be monitored by camera and also have an app to detect crying and how long crying lasts so they know exactly what is occurring at home .
Maybe they can get an app that takes care of their baby ! Or a robot !
Thanks all for your input .
Anonymous
06/10/2021 18:00
Subject: Re:Unusual nanny job-help me make a decision!
Enough you have to care for the child and do child
related things. No to house work no to grocery shopping just no period!
related things. No to house work no to grocery shopping just no period!
Anonymous
06/08/2021 08:39
Subject: Re:Unusual nanny job-help me make a decision!
If they are willing to do this as a live-in, I would do it. My rate would be $900/week, due to the variability of the schedule, average hourly rate, and extra duties (also to be done on the clock or not at all). Live-in nannies aren't guaranteed OT like live-out nannies, but any hours over 130 per month would be written into the contract at $40 (not quite 1.5, but high enough to make them question whether it's really necessary). I'd also make sure that the contract abides by the best of live-in nanny protections: 5 consecutive hours of sleep or every hour is paid (this includes their 3-4 hour "off" between 20 hour shifts).
OP, this could work for the right person, but if you're already happy with the availability of temp and sick care and you want to live-out, this is definitely not the right position for you.
OP, this could work for the right person, but if you're already happy with the availability of temp and sick care and you want to live-out, this is definitely not the right position for you.
Anonymous
06/07/2021 20:44
Subject: Re:Unusual nanny job-help me make a decision!
OMG! Do not take this job! You will have absolutely no life outside work and they sound horrible! Do not agree to any housekeeping EVER if not related to the child and no errands period.
Anonymous
06/07/2021 16:38
Subject: Unusual nanny job-help me make a decision!
Anonymous wrote:I have been approached by a professional couple who have a new baby.
At the 10-week point post-birth, they wish to hire a nanny for a live-out position.
The schedule is different each month and not predictable until about a month prior, and yet may still change at the last minute.
This irregular schedule is approx 130 hours a month at minimum.
They also request help with errands, housekeeping, and laundry, and grocery shopping.
Shifts range from 3 hours in the mid-afternoon or evening to 20 hours shifts on 3-4 consecutive days after which you need to come back after 3 hours for another 20 hours shift. . There are many evening and night shifts. Also, one weekend a month with overnights and the possibility of very long shifts.
Based on the variability in schedule, it would be difficult to have a second position for the remaining hours [an additional 30 hours to get to a full-time position. Also would be difficult to plan for my own personal appointment, social activities, even vacations, in advance.
Also, the baby is tiny now, nursing, and I have no idea whether this will be a baby who is good with the bottle or a good sleeper for those 20 hour days!
Input, please.
HAs anyone ever held a position like this?
This seems overwhelming to negotiate, and I have absolutely no idea what to negotiate for a salary.
I currently work temp positions/sick chid care and there is NEVER a shortage of work for me in this area.
RUN! This is a horrible job unless they are paying $500.00 an hour.
Anonymous
06/07/2021 16:37
Subject: Re:Unusual nanny job-help me make a decision!
I wouldn’t take this job OP.
The schedule is simply too erratic for me.
The possibility that you may be required to do 3-4 twenty hour shifts is just bizarre.
Then only get a three hour break before being required to go back.....??!
No way!
Also I would not want to be responsible for an entire family’s grocery shopping, laundry, cleaning AND errand running.
I strongly advise you to continue in your search!
The schedule is simply too erratic for me.
The possibility that you may be required to do 3-4 twenty hour shifts is just bizarre.
Then only get a three hour break before being required to go back.....??!
No way!
Also I would not want to be responsible for an entire family’s grocery shopping, laundry, cleaning AND errand running.
I strongly advise you to continue in your search!
Anonymous
06/07/2021 16:18
Subject: Unusual nanny job-help me make a decision!
I would only accept this position under these terms:
-guaranteed 40 hours per week - if they need less childcare, you can help with running errands, laundry or whatever you are comfortable with.
- you will be provided with the schedule 2 weeks prior to the start of the month. any late changes are subject to your availability and you will still be paid for the original schedule even if you are not available at the changed times.
- they provide a private room for sleeping and you are welcome to stay there overnight with any shift that ends in the middle of the night or ends less than 8 hours before the start of your next shift.
I would also want to see a sample schedule for 1-2 months to get an idea of what a normal month might look like. My rate would depend on how desirable or undesirable the schedule appears to be.
-guaranteed 40 hours per week - if they need less childcare, you can help with running errands, laundry or whatever you are comfortable with.
- you will be provided with the schedule 2 weeks prior to the start of the month. any late changes are subject to your availability and you will still be paid for the original schedule even if you are not available at the changed times.
- they provide a private room for sleeping and you are welcome to stay there overnight with any shift that ends in the middle of the night or ends less than 8 hours before the start of your next shift.
I would also want to see a sample schedule for 1-2 months to get an idea of what a normal month might look like. My rate would depend on how desirable or undesirable the schedule appears to be.
Anonymous
06/07/2021 14:26
Subject: Re:Unusual nanny job-help me make a decision!
Move on. Very bad option. Believe it's always better to look for a F-T position with a set schedule.. or if you are open to a Part times; focuse only for Part times that requiere M-T all morning at least 25 hours; so you can jave the cjanfe to get another Part time in the afternoons or this Part time could also work great; 3 Full days with 1 family and look to fill the other 2 full days eith with another family.
Anonymous
06/07/2021 13:58
Subject: Unusual nanny job-help me make a decision!
They are crazy thinking one person can do a 20 hour shift, have a 3 hour break, and then do another 20 hour shift, caring for a small, helpless human. They need at least two nannies.
Anonymous
06/07/2021 13:53
Subject: Unusual nanny job-help me make a decision!
Don’t take it, pp. They basically want an on-call nanny but are too cheap to pay for the coverage. You will be frustrated and exhausted.
Anonymous
06/07/2021 12:42
Subject: Unusual nanny job-help me make a decision!
I have been approached by a professional couple who have a new baby.
At the 10-week point post-birth, they wish to hire a nanny for a live-out position.
The schedule is different each month and not predictable until about a month prior, and yet may still change at the last minute.
This irregular schedule is approx 130 hours a month at minimum.
They also request help with errands, housekeeping, and laundry, and grocery shopping.
Shifts range from 3 hours in the mid-afternoon or evening to 20 hours shifts on 3-4 consecutive days after which you need to come back after 3 hours for another 20 hours shift. . There are many evening and night shifts. Also, one weekend a month with overnights and the possibility of very long shifts.
Based on the variability in schedule, it would be difficult to have a second position for the remaining hours [an additional 30 hours to get to a full-time position. Also would be difficult to plan for my own personal appointment, social activities, even vacations, in advance.
Also, the baby is tiny now, nursing, and I have no idea whether this will be a baby who is good with the bottle or a good sleeper for those 20 hour days!
Input, please.
HAs anyone ever held a position like this?
This seems overwhelming to negotiate, and I have absolutely no idea what to negotiate for a salary.
I currently work temp positions/sick chid care and there is NEVER a shortage of work for me in this area.
At the 10-week point post-birth, they wish to hire a nanny for a live-out position.
The schedule is different each month and not predictable until about a month prior, and yet may still change at the last minute.
This irregular schedule is approx 130 hours a month at minimum.
They also request help with errands, housekeeping, and laundry, and grocery shopping.
Shifts range from 3 hours in the mid-afternoon or evening to 20 hours shifts on 3-4 consecutive days after which you need to come back after 3 hours for another 20 hours shift. . There are many evening and night shifts. Also, one weekend a month with overnights and the possibility of very long shifts.
Based on the variability in schedule, it would be difficult to have a second position for the remaining hours [an additional 30 hours to get to a full-time position. Also would be difficult to plan for my own personal appointment, social activities, even vacations, in advance.
Also, the baby is tiny now, nursing, and I have no idea whether this will be a baby who is good with the bottle or a good sleeper for those 20 hour days!
Input, please.
HAs anyone ever held a position like this?
This seems overwhelming to negotiate, and I have absolutely no idea what to negotiate for a salary.
I currently work temp positions/sick chid care and there is NEVER a shortage of work for me in this area.