Anonymous
Post 03/18/2021 14:01     Subject: Re:Covid guidelines

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Even if you tell your au pair to follow CDC, state, and local guidelines, I guarantee you that you will still be feeling very uncomfortable with what the au pairs are up to if you and your family have been cautious. Au pairs basically will act like COVID doesn't exist but occasionally wear a mask (not always properly).

Bars? Hey, they're open at reduced capacity, so au pairs can go, right?
Restaurants and drinking? Same as above and definitely maskless because they're consuming food/drink. Are the wait staff going say something to their customers if their chairs aren't distanced? Nope.
Tinder and other apps? Well, that's not the same as a "gathering" so why would this not be ok?
Travel? Also open, so why would you have a problem with it?

Then, the vaccine also makes them COVID-proof, right? Why would you have any restrictions if they're vaccinated. So what that they *might* transmit the virus still... some evidence says vaccinated people likely don't too... therefore this shouldn't impact how au pairs are living their "best life" here...


All of the above (PP is a rockstar!). And guess what? If your family does get COVID our your au pair is not adhering to your rules, your agency and your LCC will give you the trope, "well, maybe you are not right for the program". I am beyond disgusted by our agency and LCC at the moment


Your house, your rules! If your LCC thinks that your rules are unreasonable (vis-a-vis other HFs) then the program may not make sense for you, at least not right now.
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2021 12:57     Subject: Re:Covid guidelines

Anonymous wrote:Even if you tell your au pair to follow CDC, state, and local guidelines, I guarantee you that you will still be feeling very uncomfortable with what the au pairs are up to if you and your family have been cautious. Au pairs basically will act like COVID doesn't exist but occasionally wear a mask (not always properly).

Bars? Hey, they're open at reduced capacity, so au pairs can go, right?
Restaurants and drinking? Same as above and definitely maskless because they're consuming food/drink. Are the wait staff going say something to their customers if their chairs aren't distanced? Nope.
Tinder and other apps? Well, that's not the same as a "gathering" so why would this not be ok?
Travel? Also open, so why would you have a problem with it?

Then, the vaccine also makes them COVID-proof, right? Why would you have any restrictions if they're vaccinated. So what that they *might* transmit the virus still... some evidence says vaccinated people likely don't too... therefore this shouldn't impact how au pairs are living their "best life" here...


Nothing is risk free in life and we all have to make decisions that work for our families. Last year, we decided to take a break from the program. DH and I are both vaccinated now and we decided to re-join the program again this year. To us, the risk seems manageable. I do understand, however, that our year of isolation is coming to an end. I do hope that our au pair won't go bar hopping as soon as bars are open (are they open already?), but I also understand that she will be meeting people, going out, and taking bigger risks than what we are taking now (even after being vaccinated). That all was part of the equation for us.
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2021 10:34     Subject: Re:Covid guidelines

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Even if you tell your au pair to follow CDC, state, and local guidelines, I guarantee you that you will still be feeling very uncomfortable with what the au pairs are up to if you and your family have been cautious. Au pairs basically will act like COVID doesn't exist but occasionally wear a mask (not always properly).

Bars? Hey, they're open at reduced capacity, so au pairs can go, right?
Restaurants and drinking? Same as above and definitely maskless because they're consuming food/drink. Are the wait staff going say something to their customers if their chairs aren't distanced? Nope.
Tinder and other apps? Well, that's not the same as a "gathering" so why would this not be ok?
Travel? Also open, so why would you have a problem with it?

Then, the vaccine also makes them COVID-proof, right? Why would you have any restrictions if they're vaccinated. So what that they *might* transmit the virus still... some evidence says vaccinated people likely don't too... therefore this shouldn't impact how au pairs are living their "best life" here...


All of the above (PP is a rockstar!). And guess what? If your family does get COVID our your au pair is not adhering to your rules, your agency and your LCC will give you the trope, "well, maybe you are not right for the program". I am beyond disgusted by our agency and LCC at the moment



Not to mention, many APs work for host famiilies who are very entitiled and feel they don't have to be careful and/or subscribe to the above thought process.
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2021 10:11     Subject: Re:Covid guidelines

Anonymous wrote:Even if you tell your au pair to follow CDC, state, and local guidelines, I guarantee you that you will still be feeling very uncomfortable with what the au pairs are up to if you and your family have been cautious. Au pairs basically will act like COVID doesn't exist but occasionally wear a mask (not always properly).

Bars? Hey, they're open at reduced capacity, so au pairs can go, right?
Restaurants and drinking? Same as above and definitely maskless because they're consuming food/drink. Are the wait staff going say something to their customers if their chairs aren't distanced? Nope.
Tinder and other apps? Well, that's not the same as a "gathering" so why would this not be ok?
Travel? Also open, so why would you have a problem with it?

Then, the vaccine also makes them COVID-proof, right? Why would you have any restrictions if they're vaccinated. So what that they *might* transmit the virus still... some evidence says vaccinated people likely don't too... therefore this shouldn't impact how au pairs are living their "best life" here...


All of the above (PP is a rockstar!). And guess what? If your family does get COVID our your au pair is not adhering to your rules, your agency and your LCC will give you the trope, "well, maybe you are not right for the program". I am beyond disgusted by our agency and LCC at the moment
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2021 09:50     Subject: Re:Covid guidelines

Even if you tell your au pair to follow CDC, state, and local guidelines, I guarantee you that you will still be feeling very uncomfortable with what the au pairs are up to if you and your family have been cautious. Au pairs basically will act like COVID doesn't exist but occasionally wear a mask (not always properly).

Bars? Hey, they're open at reduced capacity, so au pairs can go, right?
Restaurants and drinking? Same as above and definitely maskless because they're consuming food/drink. Are the wait staff going say something to their customers if their chairs aren't distanced? Nope.
Tinder and other apps? Well, that's not the same as a "gathering" so why would this not be ok?
Travel? Also open, so why would you have a problem with it?

Then, the vaccine also makes them COVID-proof, right? Why would you have any restrictions if they're vaccinated. So what that they *might* transmit the virus still... some evidence says vaccinated people likely don't too... therefore this shouldn't impact how au pairs are living their "best life" here...
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2021 23:09     Subject: Covid guidelines

We also follow the science of the CDC, that way it's not up for Negotiation and not some arbitrary thing our family makes up.
Anonymous
Post 03/16/2021 09:18     Subject: Covid guidelines

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:i think its very case by case and my requirements have shifted since this whole thing began so don't have anything to share, but i wanted to point out the 1005 top most important vital thing I have learned about this: I need my AP to be HONEST with me about COVID. I need her to tell me if she found herself in situation that wasnt safe/where she didnt follow the rules. I need her to tell me if she is feeling too restricted and wants to have a compromise on one of the rules. I need her to tell me if one of the "safe" au pairs we have previously given her permission to hang out with was potentially exposed. What has really hurt our HF/AP relationship through all this is that she at times was not following the rules and didnt tell us which has completely eroded our trust even though she is a great au pair who is wonderful with our kid.


+1. Ours followed our rules (our DS is medically vulnerable so we need to play it extremely safe), but just didn't tell us when she was having a hard time and got really resentful so our great relationship just imploded. I would have much rather she said "SOS, I'm having a hard time with these restrictions that you told me about and I agreed to, but it's still hard". We could have had an amicable rematch. Instead, she kept it in and then lashed out at the very end.


I am so sorry it happened to you. I hope you can find a replacement au pair, though with things opening up and with visa/travel ban still in place, this could be difficult/ Best of luck to you!
Anonymous
Post 03/16/2021 07:02     Subject: Re:Covid guidelines

We ask that she follows the CDC guidelines. Things change so quickly that we had a hard time figuring out what the rules should be and decided to go with CDC.
Anonymous
Post 03/15/2021 14:14     Subject: Covid guidelines

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:i think its very case by case and my requirements have shifted since this whole thing began so don't have anything to share, but i wanted to point out the 1005 top most important vital thing I have learned about this: I need my AP to be HONEST with me about COVID. I need her to tell me if she found herself in situation that wasnt safe/where she didnt follow the rules. I need her to tell me if she is feeling too restricted and wants to have a compromise on one of the rules. I need her to tell me if one of the "safe" au pairs we have previously given her permission to hang out with was potentially exposed. What has really hurt our HF/AP relationship through all this is that she at times was not following the rules and didnt tell us which has completely eroded our trust even though she is a great au pair who is wonderful with our kid.


+1. Ours followed our rules (our DS is medically vulnerable so we need to play it extremely safe), but just didn't tell us when she was having a hard time and got really resentful so our great relationship just imploded. I would have much rather she said "SOS, I'm having a hard time with these restrictions that you told me about and I agreed to, but it's still hard". We could have had an amicable rematch. Instead, she kept it in and then lashed out at the very end.


Was she a new au pair, rematch, or extension?
Anonymous
Post 03/15/2021 13:52     Subject: Covid guidelines

Anonymous wrote:i think its very case by case and my requirements have shifted since this whole thing began so don't have anything to share, but i wanted to point out the 1005 top most important vital thing I have learned about this: I need my AP to be HONEST with me about COVID. I need her to tell me if she found herself in situation that wasnt safe/where she didnt follow the rules. I need her to tell me if she is feeling too restricted and wants to have a compromise on one of the rules. I need her to tell me if one of the "safe" au pairs we have previously given her permission to hang out with was potentially exposed. What has really hurt our HF/AP relationship through all this is that she at times was not following the rules and didnt tell us which has completely eroded our trust even though she is a great au pair who is wonderful with our kid.


+1. Ours followed our rules (our DS is medically vulnerable so we need to play it extremely safe), but just didn't tell us when she was having a hard time and got really resentful so our great relationship just imploded. I would have much rather she said "SOS, I'm having a hard time with these restrictions that you told me about and I agreed to, but it's still hard". We could have had an amicable rematch. Instead, she kept it in and then lashed out at the very end.
Anonymous
Post 03/15/2021 13:39     Subject: Covid guidelines

i think its very case by case and my requirements have shifted since this whole thing began so don't have anything to share, but i wanted to point out the 1005 top most important vital thing I have learned about this: I need my AP to be HONEST with me about COVID. I need her to tell me if she found herself in situation that wasnt safe/where she didnt follow the rules. I need her to tell me if she is feeling too restricted and wants to have a compromise on one of the rules. I need her to tell me if one of the "safe" au pairs we have previously given her permission to hang out with was potentially exposed. What has really hurt our HF/AP relationship through all this is that she at times was not following the rules and didnt tell us which has completely eroded our trust even though she is a great au pair who is wonderful with our kid.
Anonymous
Post 03/15/2021 13:30     Subject: Covid guidelines

Anonymous wrote:Would anyone be willing to share their Covid related guidelines for their au pair? I understand this will vary greatly from family to family. We are thinking of matching with an au pair and wondering what we should tell her / outline in our ‘handbook’ regarding this. We usually have our au pair candidate read our ‘handbook’ before they decide if they want to match w us. We had an au pair in 2020 but they left in April so we have never really had an au pair during Covid times. Just wondering what others are doing either with your current au pair or an au pair you are expecting shortly. Thanks!


Whatever precautions you want, outline it and make it known during the interview. In fact, that's what I start out with. If they are not willing to abide by our requirements, then there's no pont in having a conversation. Be wary of "I believe in masking but I still want to have an amazing travel year". Make it relaistic.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2021 21:25     Subject: Covid guidelines

Anonymous wrote:Just demand they arrive with proof of having been fully vaccinated.


Most 20-somethings years old are not eligible to be vaccinated in their country.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2021 20:49     Subject: Covid guidelines

Just demand they arrive with proof of having been fully vaccinated.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2021 19:50     Subject: Covid guidelines

Would anyone be willing to share their Covid related guidelines for their au pair? I understand this will vary greatly from family to family. We are thinking of matching with an au pair and wondering what we should tell her / outline in our ‘handbook’ regarding this. We usually have our au pair candidate read our ‘handbook’ before they decide if they want to match w us. We had an au pair in 2020 but they left in April so we have never really had an au pair during Covid times. Just wondering what others are doing either with your current au pair or an au pair you are expecting shortly. Thanks!