Anonymous
03/05/2021 14:22
Subject: Nanny asking for advice from those who employ nannies re: PTO
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That seems reasonable to me and I’m a MB.
+1. I’m appalled that they aren’t paying you for that extra week.
Why are you appalled? It was the agreement.
Because they shouldn’t have asked for that unpaid week. Do they go without pay for a week each year?
Lots of people take unpaid leave. The employee should not have agreed to it if she wasn’t prepared to have one week per year unpaid. This isn’t hard to understand.
It was made a condition of her employment that she take one week of unpaid leave. That is being cheap and not the norm in nanny employment. If you don’t see a problem with it, it is clear you are a cheapskate too. I hope the nanny finds another family soon.
Anonymous
03/05/2021 09:54
Subject: Nanny asking for advice from those who employ nannies re: PTO
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That seems reasonable to me and I’m a MB.
+1. I’m appalled that they aren’t paying you for that extra week.
Why are you appalled? It was the agreement.
Because they shouldn’t have asked for that unpaid week. Do they go without pay for a week each year?
Lots of people take unpaid leave. The employee should not have agreed to it if she wasn’t prepared to have one week per year unpaid. This isn’t hard to understand.
Anonymous
03/05/2021 01:08
Subject: Nanny asking for advice from those who employ nannies re: PTO
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My nanny gets two weeks vacation (10 week days) her choice each year plus a week of sick leave. She can take it in days or weeks with adequate notice. She’s never had to take unpaid leave for our vacations. If she wants additional vacation, she can take that unpaid.
I disagree with that. I’d be willing to do additional unpaid leave for an illness. But no way would I agree to
Go without childcare for a vacation.
You need more backup care if you are that inflexible.
Anonymous
03/05/2021 01:06
Subject: Nanny asking for advice from those who employ nannies re: PTO
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That seems reasonable to me and I’m a MB.
+1. I’m appalled that they aren’t paying you for that extra week.
Why are you appalled? It was the agreement.
Because they shouldn’t have asked for that unpaid week. Do they go without pay for a week each year?
Anonymous
03/04/2021 12:52
Subject: Nanny asking for advice from those who employ nannies re: PTO
Op, your response is definitely reasonable and at the end of the day, your contract states you have 2 weeks off of your choosing, so there’s really nothing to talk about. Also, if they agree to option number one, just make sure its not too close together. We’re still at the beginning of the year, so I’m sure you’d like to be able to take some days off later in the year but if that doesn’t bother you then don’t worry about it. Good luck!!
Anonymous
03/04/2021 12:24
Subject: Nanny asking for advice from those who employ nannies re: PTO
I think that's reasonable OP.
But I also think that you have an ongoing headache on your hands. You need better contractual language.
I'm a mom and this is how we address vacation time in our contract:
Paid Time Off: 15 days of paid time off will be given per year (the year being defined as starting on X annually, the anniversary of the first day of employment.) Paid time off may be used for vacation, personal days, sick leave, or any other needs. Leave will accrue at the rate of 1.25 day per month. Requests to take leave of more than one consecutive day at a time (for instance a week or more of vacation) should be made at least a month in advance of the time requested. This paid time off is in addition to what is specified for paid holidays. One week of paid time off (5 days) is to be scheduled based on the family's planned vacation. The remainder of the paid leave may be scheduled as convenient for Ms. X (coordinating around the family’s schedule when possible is greatly appreciated). Up to 56 hours (5.6 days) of unused paid time off may be carried over for use in the following year.
But I also think that you have an ongoing headache on your hands. You need better contractual language.
I'm a mom and this is how we address vacation time in our contract:
Paid Time Off: 15 days of paid time off will be given per year (the year being defined as starting on X annually, the anniversary of the first day of employment.) Paid time off may be used for vacation, personal days, sick leave, or any other needs. Leave will accrue at the rate of 1.25 day per month. Requests to take leave of more than one consecutive day at a time (for instance a week or more of vacation) should be made at least a month in advance of the time requested. This paid time off is in addition to what is specified for paid holidays. One week of paid time off (5 days) is to be scheduled based on the family's planned vacation. The remainder of the paid leave may be scheduled as convenient for Ms. X (coordinating around the family’s schedule when possible is greatly appreciated). Up to 56 hours (5.6 days) of unused paid time off may be carried over for use in the following year.
Anonymous
03/03/2021 19:29
Subject: Nanny asking for advice from those who employ nannies re: PTO
Anonymous wrote:My nanny gets two weeks vacation (10 week days) her choice each year plus a week of sick leave. She can take it in days or weeks with adequate notice. She’s never had to take unpaid leave for our vacations. If she wants additional vacation, she can take that unpaid.
I disagree with that. I’d be willing to do additional unpaid leave for an illness. But no way would I agree to
Go without childcare for a vacation.
Anonymous
03/03/2021 19:28
Subject: Nanny asking for advice from those who employ nannies re: PTO
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That seems reasonable to me and I’m a MB.
+1. I’m appalled that they aren’t paying you for that extra week.
Why are you appalled? It was the agreement.
Anonymous
03/03/2021 17:41
Subject: Nanny asking for advice from those who employ nannies re: PTO
My nanny gets two weeks vacation (10 week days) her choice each year plus a week of sick leave. She can take it in days or weeks with adequate notice. She’s never had to take unpaid leave for our vacations. If she wants additional vacation, she can take that unpaid.
Anonymous
03/03/2021 17:37
Subject: Nanny asking for advice from those who employ nannies re: PTO
Anonymous wrote:That seems reasonable to me and I’m a MB.
+1. I’m appalled that they aren’t paying you for that extra week.
Anonymous
03/03/2021 14:55
Subject: Nanny asking for advice from those who employ nannies re: PTO
That seems reasonable to me and I’m a MB.
Anonymous
03/03/2021 14:10
Subject: Nanny asking for advice from those who employ nannies re: PTO
I would not take any days off which did not work for your family.
Anonymous
03/03/2021 13:52
Subject: Re:Nanny asking for advice from those who employ nannies re: PTO
You should never have agreed to an unpaid week. That said, I’d go with taking your vacation while they’re away with the understanding that this will not be the situation next year.
Anonymous
03/03/2021 13:33
Subject: Nanny asking for advice from those who employ nannies re: PTO
In my contract I have guaranteed hours and two weeks paid vacation of my choice. It also says in my contract that the parents can give me one week off unpaid per year if they give me 8 weeks advance notice.
[Optional background info: I have been a nanny for many years and have never agreed to take one week unpaid before, but in recent years I've really valued having extra time off, and financially I can survive one week without pay, so I agreed to it. Initially they wanted to give me two weeks unpaid per year, but during contract negotiations I asked them to change it to one week per year which they agreed to.]
Ever since I started with them, last September, MB has been saying that they will be spending two weeks out of town in the summer, and has, multiple times, strongly suggested that I should take my vacation during that time. I've been giving non-committal responses like "I haven't planned anything yet but when I do I'll try to keep that in mind" etc.
My husband works in healthcare and he and I have both been working nonstop since last February. I had hoped that we might both get some extra time off over the holidays, as we both typically do, but he ended up having to cover for coworkers and working extra shifts, and my nanny family had me work every single day other than the days I have off in my contract (Xmas eve, Xmas day, New year's day), so by January we were both feeling very burnt out.
We decided to plan a relaxing trip to an Airbnb cabin just out of town for a week in early April. I gave my nanny family the dates and MB said that it was no problem, as her parents, who are both vaccinated, retired, and live just a few hours away, and love to watch their grandchild, had already said they would be more than happy to fill in for me that week. So, they do have a very good option for childcare to cover for my two vacation weeks.
Still, MB continues to suggest that I should take my remaining week of vacation during their two week trip this summer. She finally gave me the dates of their trip last week, and they don't work for my husband and I; he has two coworkers who are going to be out on maternity leave at that time and he's already been told by his boss that he can't take any extra time off during the 4 weeks that their maternity leaves overlap.
Having said that, we don't plan to travel until I am able to get the vaccine, and in my state I won't be eligible for at least a few more months. So I'm not even sure that I will need or want to take a different week off between now and when our contract renews in September.
So, here is the bottom line: MB is pressuring me to use my remaining vacation week during their 2 week trip, which doesn't really work for me. I don't want her to think that I am being unreasonable or unwilling to be flexible, but I am positive that even if I agree to take my vacation at that time, they will still make me take the second week of their trip unpaid.
Here is what I plan to propose:
I would agree to taking my vacation during that time if they agree to pay me for the full time and not to make me take an unpaid week off this year.
OR
If they prefer not to pay me for one week of the trip, then I will simply take my paid vacation at a different time.
Does this sound like a reasonable proposal? Any advice for how to proceed? I would appreciate hearing feedback from a nanny employers perspective. Thank you.
[Optional background info: I have been a nanny for many years and have never agreed to take one week unpaid before, but in recent years I've really valued having extra time off, and financially I can survive one week without pay, so I agreed to it. Initially they wanted to give me two weeks unpaid per year, but during contract negotiations I asked them to change it to one week per year which they agreed to.]
Ever since I started with them, last September, MB has been saying that they will be spending two weeks out of town in the summer, and has, multiple times, strongly suggested that I should take my vacation during that time. I've been giving non-committal responses like "I haven't planned anything yet but when I do I'll try to keep that in mind" etc.
My husband works in healthcare and he and I have both been working nonstop since last February. I had hoped that we might both get some extra time off over the holidays, as we both typically do, but he ended up having to cover for coworkers and working extra shifts, and my nanny family had me work every single day other than the days I have off in my contract (Xmas eve, Xmas day, New year's day), so by January we were both feeling very burnt out.
We decided to plan a relaxing trip to an Airbnb cabin just out of town for a week in early April. I gave my nanny family the dates and MB said that it was no problem, as her parents, who are both vaccinated, retired, and live just a few hours away, and love to watch their grandchild, had already said they would be more than happy to fill in for me that week. So, they do have a very good option for childcare to cover for my two vacation weeks.
Still, MB continues to suggest that I should take my remaining week of vacation during their two week trip this summer. She finally gave me the dates of their trip last week, and they don't work for my husband and I; he has two coworkers who are going to be out on maternity leave at that time and he's already been told by his boss that he can't take any extra time off during the 4 weeks that their maternity leaves overlap.
Having said that, we don't plan to travel until I am able to get the vaccine, and in my state I won't be eligible for at least a few more months. So I'm not even sure that I will need or want to take a different week off between now and when our contract renews in September.
So, here is the bottom line: MB is pressuring me to use my remaining vacation week during their 2 week trip, which doesn't really work for me. I don't want her to think that I am being unreasonable or unwilling to be flexible, but I am positive that even if I agree to take my vacation at that time, they will still make me take the second week of their trip unpaid.
Here is what I plan to propose:
I would agree to taking my vacation during that time if they agree to pay me for the full time and not to make me take an unpaid week off this year.
OR
If they prefer not to pay me for one week of the trip, then I will simply take my paid vacation at a different time.
Does this sound like a reasonable proposal? Any advice for how to proceed? I would appreciate hearing feedback from a nanny employers perspective. Thank you.