Anonymous
Post 08/17/2019 02:29     Subject: AP doesn’t wash her hands

^And to add, they may have running water but it may only be turned on in their village for certain hours of the day. And yes its called a village. Each section of the village is allowed to use their running water during different times. Ask your Thai AP her background OP, have a conversation with her about her upbringing. It will be eye opening for sure. And the conversion rate from USD to Thai baht is crazy so what $1 here will buy you a candy bar conversion to about ~ Thai baht will buy you a couple days worth of groceries.
Anonymous
Post 08/17/2019 02:06     Subject: Re:AP doesn’t wash her hands

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Buy a giant bottle of hand sanitizer. Tell AP she needs to use some at particular times: when starting work, after bathroom trips, after diaper changes/helping with bathroom (if you child requires), before meal preparation, etc. Alternatively, she can wash her hands with soap and hot water.

You can't do much if she still ignores you after you tell her point blank to her face AND in writing (put a note on her next week of schedule).

Most APs will adjust and forget a few times before getting used to it if you're very direct about the requirement. However, some APs simply don't care and will disrespect your specific instruction. If this is the case, you'll have bigger issues than hand washing come up.


Thank you, this is a great idea. I'd definitely prefer if she washed her hands with soap and water, but I also don't know how to approach the "I've noticed I don't hear you wash your hands after using the bathroom" issue without sounding a bit creepy. I originally noticed because I used her bathroom a few months ago and I noticed the soap was almost out. I thought to myself that I need to get her some more hand soap but then I forgot. A few days go by and I was in her bathroom again (she shares with my kid) and I noticed that the almost out hand soap was still almost out. Meaning she hadn't used it. After that I realized that any time I hear her in the restroom, I don't hear the water run after the flush, she just comes right out. I had an old roommate that did the same thing, I guess I partially trained myself to listen out for this. I guess I can also ask her if she likes the hand soap in her bathroom or not and if she wants a new type, and if she questions why I'm asking I can say that I've noticed she doesn't use it. In her defense, she grew up very poor and I have a feeling that hand washing wasn't a thing in her home.

I'll have to add hand washing to our handbook for future APs.


She probably didn’t even having running water in her home. I’ve been there on missions trips before, some of the conditions are terrible.


Oh come on. You really think a Thai AP with enough ability to complete a full application, likely complete with pictures and video, had no running water in her home?


Yes. You live in a sheltered world inside your box.


PP here - and don’t doubt for a second that they won’t hide their economic status from their HP for fear of getting judged or passed on as a potential candidate. I have seen it first hand.
Anonymous
Post 08/17/2019 02:02     Subject: Re:AP doesn’t wash her hands

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Buy a giant bottle of hand sanitizer. Tell AP she needs to use some at particular times: when starting work, after bathroom trips, after diaper changes/helping with bathroom (if you child requires), before meal preparation, etc. Alternatively, she can wash her hands with soap and hot water.

You can't do much if she still ignores you after you tell her point blank to her face AND in writing (put a note on her next week of schedule).

Most APs will adjust and forget a few times before getting used to it if you're very direct about the requirement. However, some APs simply don't care and will disrespect your specific instruction. If this is the case, you'll have bigger issues than hand washing come up.


Thank you, this is a great idea. I'd definitely prefer if she washed her hands with soap and water, but I also don't know how to approach the "I've noticed I don't hear you wash your hands after using the bathroom" issue without sounding a bit creepy. I originally noticed because I used her bathroom a few months ago and I noticed the soap was almost out. I thought to myself that I need to get her some more hand soap but then I forgot. A few days go by and I was in her bathroom again (she shares with my kid) and I noticed that the almost out hand soap was still almost out. Meaning she hadn't used it. After that I realized that any time I hear her in the restroom, I don't hear the water run after the flush, she just comes right out. I had an old roommate that did the same thing, I guess I partially trained myself to listen out for this. I guess I can also ask her if she likes the hand soap in her bathroom or not and if she wants a new type, and if she questions why I'm asking I can say that I've noticed she doesn't use it. In her defense, she grew up very poor and I have a feeling that hand washing wasn't a thing in her home.

I'll have to add hand washing to our handbook for future APs.


She probably didn’t even having running water in her home. I’ve been there on missions trips before, some of the conditions are terrible.


Oh come on. You really think a Thai AP with enough ability to complete a full application, likely complete with pictures and video, had no running water in her home?


Yes. You live in a sheltered world inside your box.
Anonymous
Post 08/17/2019 00:49     Subject: AP doesn’t wash her hands

Tell her to wash her hands.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2019 16:20     Subject: Re:AP doesn’t wash her hands

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Buy a giant bottle of hand sanitizer. Tell AP she needs to use some at particular times: when starting work, after bathroom trips, after diaper changes/helping with bathroom (if you child requires), before meal preparation, etc. Alternatively, she can wash her hands with soap and hot water.

You can't do much if she still ignores you after you tell her point blank to her face AND in writing (put a note on her next week of schedule).

Most APs will adjust and forget a few times before getting used to it if you're very direct about the requirement. However, some APs simply don't care and will disrespect your specific instruction. If this is the case, you'll have bigger issues than hand washing come up.


Thank you, this is a great idea. I'd definitely prefer if she washed her hands with soap and water, but I also don't know how to approach the "I've noticed I don't hear you wash your hands after using the bathroom" issue without sounding a bit creepy. I originally noticed because I used her bathroom a few months ago and I noticed the soap was almost out. I thought to myself that I need to get her some more hand soap but then I forgot. A few days go by and I was in her bathroom again (she shares with my kid) and I noticed that the almost out hand soap was still almost out. Meaning she hadn't used it. After that I realized that any time I hear her in the restroom, I don't hear the water run after the flush, she just comes right out. I had an old roommate that did the same thing, I guess I partially trained myself to listen out for this. I guess I can also ask her if she likes the hand soap in her bathroom or not and if she wants a new type, and if she questions why I'm asking I can say that I've noticed she doesn't use it. In her defense, she grew up very poor and I have a feeling that hand washing wasn't a thing in her home.

I'll have to add hand washing to our handbook for future APs.


She probably didn’t even having running water in her home. I’ve been there on missions trips before, some of the conditions are terrible.


Oh come on. You really think a Thai AP with enough ability to complete a full application, likely complete with pictures and video, had no running water in her home?
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2019 13:41     Subject: Re:AP doesn’t wash her hands

Anonymous wrote:I would bring her to Bath and Body Works and let her pick out some scents. I just returned from a two-week vacation and I truly couldn't stand the very floral hand soaps that were in the bathrooms of my cottage. Of course I used them, and often, but I really didn't like the scents at all. Sometimes the 'feel' is off-putting, too - the hand soaps in the Disney parks come to mind, they feel slimy to me. B&BW also has foaming hand soaps if she prefers, and you can test them in the store. You can also point out to her that we've got different germs here that her body might not be immune/resistant to and you don't want her to get sick. This makes the whole situation seem courteous instead of embarrassing for her.


Only if you can handle the scenes at Bath & Body works!! They all smell absolutely awful to me and if someone uses them I can tell and feel sick after.

Perhaps ask her if she has a favorite flower or scent and get her that. But you need to address it - she absolutely needs to learn that handwasbing is a part of typical American (and many other) culture
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2019 11:41     Subject: Re:AP doesn’t wash her hands

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Buy a giant bottle of hand sanitizer. Tell AP she needs to use some at particular times: when starting work, after bathroom trips, after diaper changes/helping with bathroom (if you child requires), before meal preparation, etc. Alternatively, she can wash her hands with soap and hot water.

You can't do much if she still ignores you after you tell her point blank to her face AND in writing (put a note on her next week of schedule).

Most APs will adjust and forget a few times before getting used to it if you're very direct about the requirement. However, some APs simply don't care and will disrespect your specific instruction. If this is the case, you'll have bigger issues than hand washing come up.


Thank you, this is a great idea. I'd definitely prefer if she washed her hands with soap and water, but I also don't know how to approach the "I've noticed I don't hear you wash your hands after using the bathroom" issue without sounding a bit creepy. I originally noticed because I used her bathroom a few months ago and I noticed the soap was almost out. I thought to myself that I need to get her some more hand soap but then I forgot. A few days go by and I was in her bathroom again (she shares with my kid) and I noticed that the almost out hand soap was still almost out. Meaning she hadn't used it. After that I realized that any time I hear her in the restroom, I don't hear the water run after the flush, she just comes right out. I had an old roommate that did the same thing, I guess I partially trained myself to listen out for this. I guess I can also ask her if she likes the hand soap in her bathroom or not and if she wants a new type, and if she questions why I'm asking I can say that I've noticed she doesn't use it. In her defense, she grew up very poor and I have a feeling that hand washing wasn't a thing in her home.

I'll have to add hand washing to our handbook for future APs.


She probably didn’t even having running water in her home. I’ve been there on missions trips before, some of the conditions are terrible.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2019 10:57     Subject: Re:AP doesn’t wash her hands

I would bring her to Bath and Body Works and let her pick out some scents. I just returned from a two-week vacation and I truly couldn't stand the very floral hand soaps that were in the bathrooms of my cottage. Of course I used them, and often, but I really didn't like the scents at all. Sometimes the 'feel' is off-putting, too - the hand soaps in the Disney parks come to mind, they feel slimy to me. B&BW also has foaming hand soaps if she prefers, and you can test them in the store. You can also point out to her that we've got different germs here that her body might not be immune/resistant to and you don't want her to get sick. This makes the whole situation seem courteous instead of embarrassing for her.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2019 10:28     Subject: Re:AP doesn’t wash her hands

Anonymous wrote:Buy a giant bottle of hand sanitizer. Tell AP she needs to use some at particular times: when starting work, after bathroom trips, after diaper changes/helping with bathroom (if you child requires), before meal preparation, etc. Alternatively, she can wash her hands with soap and hot water.

You can't do much if she still ignores you after you tell her point blank to her face AND in writing (put a note on her next week of schedule).

Most APs will adjust and forget a few times before getting used to it if you're very direct about the requirement. However, some APs simply don't care and will disrespect your specific instruction. If this is the case, you'll have bigger issues than hand washing come up.


Thank you, this is a great idea. I'd definitely prefer if she washed her hands with soap and water, but I also don't know how to approach the "I've noticed I don't hear you wash your hands after using the bathroom" issue without sounding a bit creepy. I originally noticed because I used her bathroom a few months ago and I noticed the soap was almost out. I thought to myself that I need to get her some more hand soap but then I forgot. A few days go by and I was in her bathroom again (she shares with my kid) and I noticed that the almost out hand soap was still almost out. Meaning she hadn't used it. After that I realized that any time I hear her in the restroom, I don't hear the water run after the flush, she just comes right out. I had an old roommate that did the same thing, I guess I partially trained myself to listen out for this. I guess I can also ask her if she likes the hand soap in her bathroom or not and if she wants a new type, and if she questions why I'm asking I can say that I've noticed she doesn't use it. In her defense, she grew up very poor and I have a feeling that hand washing wasn't a thing in her home.

I'll have to add hand washing to our handbook for future APs.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2019 10:23     Subject: AP doesn’t wash her hands

Ugh, my brother is starting to do this now and it's super annoying and disgusting.

For the AP, we make it a rule. our child is immunocompromised.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2019 10:04     Subject: Re:AP doesn’t wash her hands

Buy a giant bottle of hand sanitizer. Tell AP she needs to use some at particular times: when starting work, after bathroom trips, after diaper changes/helping with bathroom (if you child requires), before meal preparation, etc. Alternatively, she can wash her hands with soap and hot water.

You can't do much if she still ignores you after you tell her point blank to her face AND in writing (put a note on her next week of schedule).

Most APs will adjust and forget a few times before getting used to it if you're very direct about the requirement. However, some APs simply don't care and will disrespect your specific instruction. If this is the case, you'll have bigger issues than hand washing come up.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2019 05:06     Subject: AP doesn’t wash her hands

Our first Thai Au Pair washed her hands. The second never did and actually threw away the hand soap in her bathroom. We had to address it directly...
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2019 04:15     Subject: AP doesn’t wash her hands

Anonymous wrote:We have a Thai AP that we adore but she never washes her hands. I mean she goes to the bathroom doesn’t wash her hands and then goes over and touches my kid. I’ve also never seen her wash her hands before eating. Has anyone else with a Thai AP noticed this? Is this a cultural thing, or is she just gross?


I have had this experience with my Thai and a Colombian AP. There is a section on my handbook that covers this. I also posted a sign in the bathroom. They also took showers/baths very infrequently (maybe once a week or once every two weeks). They were not fun to be around.

This is not an attempt to make generalizations because my other Colombian APs were fine.
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2019 21:57     Subject: AP doesn’t wash her hands

Make it a house rule.

Penny, in this house we wash our hands at the following transitions:

- when we come in from outside
-after using the toilet
- before prepping or eating food
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2019 18:32     Subject: AP doesn’t wash her hands

We have a Thai AP that we adore but she never washes her hands. I mean she goes to the bathroom doesn’t wash her hands and then goes over and touches my kid. I’ve also never seen her wash her hands before eating. Has anyone else with a Thai AP noticed this? Is this a cultural thing, or is she just gross?