Anonymous
Post 05/22/2018 13:18     Subject: having more then one nanny...
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sounds like it will work OP. Especially if you usually get home around 5 so you can help with all the kids. I would definitely give your current nanny a raise to account for the twins. I would not pay her a separate rate for when she has all 4 kids, that would get too complicated.


Op here. Now that you mention it, a raise does sound better then paying her a higher rate with all 4 kids. She has been great to us.


I was going to chime in and say the same thing. Then there isn’t the complication of changing payrate when she happens to have all four longer. I do think that it will put your current nanny in a position of realizing that her time with your family is limited, as you’ll likely keep the twin nanny when you you have the kids in school full time.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2018 12:37     Subject: having more then one nanny...
Sounds like you’ve got it all sorted out then, op!
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2018 12:24     Subject: having more then one nanny...
Anonymous wrote:Sounds like it will work OP. Especially if you usually get home around 5 so you can help with all the kids. I would definitely give your current nanny a raise to account for the twins. I would not pay her a separate rate for when she has all 4 kids, that would get too complicated.


Op here. Now that you mention it, a raise does sound better then paying her a higher rate with all 4 kids. She has been great to us.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2018 12:10     Subject: having more then one nanny...
Sounds like it will work OP. Especially if you usually get home around 5 so you can help with all the kids. I would definitely give your current nanny a raise to account for the twins. I would not pay her a separate rate for when she has all 4 kids, that would get too complicated.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2018 11:54     Subject: having more then one nanny...
Anonymous wrote: Do you actually need childcare from 7 AM until 6:30 PM? At what age are you planning to start this set up? The reason I ask is that the feasibility of even 2 1/2 hours of all four of those kids in the late afternoon is going to look very different depending on how long your maternity leave is. If you are planning to have the afternoon nanny deal with four to 6:30 PM with four kids two of whom are newborn twins, that is going to be really hard on her and very poor care for all of the kids. And I say this as someone who is handled twins and older siblings on my own multiple times. If she is not very experienced with twins and especially newborn twins, then having four all at the same time will be tough enough, but the timeframe that you are talking about is called the witching hour for a reason. The twins are likely to be very fussy and demanding between four and 6:30 PM, and if one or God for bid both of them have colic, it would be challenging for a caregiver even to provide quality care to the two of them. Add in the older siblings and a nanny who presumably mostly works with older kids and it could be very very tough on her. If you could get away with maintaining the overlap until you got home or waiting until the twins are at least six months old to overlap and making sleep training high-priority, you will be much better off IMO.


I will have 4 months maternity leave. My husband leaves at 7:30 with the older kids to drop off at school and I would leave around 6:45/7. So yes we need care from 7 Am forward so my husband can get ready before leaving. And I see your concern about handling 4 kids, I know it might be tough, but our nanny has experience with multiples. She’s worked with twins, however thentwins didn’t have any siblings. Our nanny said she’s willing to do it but like you said I’m a little concerned it might be too much. I am off work around 4:30/5 but she’s always stayed until 6:30 to help for dinner so most of the time she will not have all four kids until 6:30, but I work late on occasion so it’s a possibility
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2018 11:07     Subject: having more then one nanny...
Do you actually need childcare from 7 AM until 6:30 PM? At what age are you planning to start this set up? The reason I ask is that the feasibility of even 2 1/2 hours of all four of those kids in the late afternoon is going to look very different depending on how long your maternity leave is. If you are planning to have the afternoon nanny deal with four to 6:30 PM with four kids two of whom are newborn twins, that is going to be really hard on her and very poor care for all of the kids. And I say this as someone who is handled twins and older siblings on my own multiple times. If she is not very experienced with twins and especially newborn twins, then having four all at the same time will be tough enough, but the timeframe that you are talking about is called the witching hour for a reason. The twins are likely to be very fussy and demanding between four and 6:30 PM, and if one or God for bid both of them have colic, it would be challenging for a caregiver even to provide quality care to the two of them. Add in the older siblings and a nanny who presumably mostly works with older kids and it could be very very tough on her. If you could get away with maintaining the overlap until you got home or waiting until the twins are at least six months old to overlap and making sleep training high-priority, you will be much better off IMO.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2018 10:45     Subject: Re:having more then one nanny...
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think is best just to get one nanny. Its only an extra 2.5. Just pay her overtime and extra for the two oldest children. You would have to do the same if you was to get another nanny for the late afternoon. You would have to pay her for watching all four children. It's always harder for mom to find part time nannies.


Infant twins are exhausting. 7-6:30 5 days a week is a recipe for nanny burnout. If this mom can swing two nannies, at least until both the oldest are in school and the twins are a little older, it is a much better idea.

And, she already has the afternoon nanny. She's looking for the full time, 7-4 nanny. That will be easy to find.



Op here, and yes I agree. Our current nanny is not available in the AM anyway
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2018 10:45     Subject: Re:having more then one nanny...
Anonymous wrote:I think is best just to get one nanny. Its only an extra 2.5. Just pay her overtime and extra for the two oldest children. You would have to do the same if you was to get another nanny for the late afternoon. You would have to pay her for watching all four children. It's always harder for mom to find part time nannies.


I’m not looking for a part time nanny. I am looking for a full time nanny to work 7-4. Our current nanny works 1-6:30
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2018 10:28     Subject: Re:having more then one nanny...
Anonymous wrote:I think is best just to get one nanny. Its only an extra 2.5. Just pay her overtime and extra for the two oldest children. You would have to do the same if you was to get another nanny for the late afternoon. You would have to pay her for watching all four children. It's always harder for mom to find part time nannies.


Infant twins are exhausting. 7-6:30 5 days a week is a recipe for nanny burnout. If this mom can swing two nannies, at least until both the oldest are in school and the twins are a little older, it is a much better idea.

And, she already has the afternoon nanny. She's looking for the full time, 7-4 nanny. That will be easy to find.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2018 10:23     Subject: Re:having more then one nanny...
I have worked for families with two nannies per child on weekdays and weekends. We always worked out coverage and would pick up the other nannies shift if sick or vacationing. Lots of wealthy families have the set up.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2018 10:19     Subject: Re:having more then one nanny...
I think is best just to get one nanny. Its only an extra 2.5. Just pay her overtime and extra for the two oldest children. You would have to do the same if you was to get another nanny for the late afternoon. You would have to pay her for watching all four children. It's always harder for mom to find part time nannies.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2018 10:19     Subject: having more then one nanny...
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When I had 3 older kids and a newborn, I had a full time nanny and a part time nanny-housekeeper.

I think it will be hard to find someone willing to work for 2.5 hours a day, but you can try -- maybe a student would take this job? If you can bump it up to 4-5 hours a day, you will probably find someone. Maybe you can make it a housekeeper/babysitting position rather than purely babysitting to come up with the hours.

Also, it will likely be easier to find someone who can do mornings, especially if you decide to only do 2.5-3 hours a day. Would your nanny be willing to shift to 9:30-6:30?

Also, I just prorated the benefits for our part time person. So, she still gets the same number of days off a year, only her "day" is 5 hours, and our full time nanny's "day" is 8.5 hours.


I think you misunderstood the OP. Nanny A would be at the house from 7am-4pm, Nanny B would be at the house from 1pm-6:30pm (current schedule). Nannies would overlap from 1pm-4pm.


Ah. Yes. Then that sounds good to me!

There are a lot of benefits to two nannies, including built-in backup for at least part of the day when someone is out, and a little more adult interaction for the nannies themselves. You do need to hire someone who like the idea, though, and isn't going to be grumpy about having someone else around. Ideally, they'd like each other and help the kids play together.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2018 10:04     Subject: having more then one nanny...
Anonymous wrote:When I had 3 older kids and a newborn, I had a full time nanny and a part time nanny-housekeeper.

I think it will be hard to find someone willing to work for 2.5 hours a day, but you can try -- maybe a student would take this job? If you can bump it up to 4-5 hours a day, you will probably find someone. Maybe you can make it a housekeeper/babysitting position rather than purely babysitting to come up with the hours.

Also, it will likely be easier to find someone who can do mornings, especially if you decide to only do 2.5-3 hours a day. Would your nanny be willing to shift to 9:30-6:30?

Also, I just prorated the benefits for our part time person. So, she still gets the same number of days off a year, only her "day" is 5 hours, and our full time nanny's "day" is 8.5 hours.


I think you misunderstood the OP. Nanny A would be at the house from 7am-4pm, Nanny B would be at the house from 1pm-6:30pm (current schedule). Nannies would overlap from 1pm-4pm.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2018 09:25     Subject: having more then one nanny...
When I had 3 older kids and a newborn, I had a full time nanny and a part time nanny-housekeeper.

I think it will be hard to find someone willing to work for 2.5 hours a day, but you can try -- maybe a student would take this job? If you can bump it up to 4-5 hours a day, you will probably find someone. Maybe you can make it a housekeeper/babysitting position rather than purely babysitting to come up with the hours.

Also, it will likely be easier to find someone who can do mornings, especially if you decide to only do 2.5-3 hours a day. Would your nanny be willing to shift to 9:30-6:30?

Also, I just prorated the benefits for our part time person. So, she still gets the same number of days off a year, only her "day" is 5 hours, and our full time nanny's "day" is 8.5 hours.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2018 22:49     Subject: having more then one nanny...
hello, I am pregnant with twins and we have a 4 y/o and 6 y/o. our current nanny works for us from 1-6:30 everyday. however, we are thinking about hiring a second nanny for the twins. does anyone employ more than one nanny? should pay/vacation/sick days etc stay the same? we plan for this nanny to come 7-4 everyday and at 4 our other nanny would have all 4 kids until we relieve her at 6:30. is this a good plan? should be pay more for the 2.5 hours she'll have the four kids? any thoughts or suggestion would be appreciated. thank you.