Anonymous
Post 12/12/2017 17:35     Subject: Why hire an educated experienced nanny if...

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You aren’t going to listen to any of their advice.

I’ve been nannying for 15 years. I have a bachelors in elementary education and child development, IBCLC, and various other child related degrees and certifications.

I went through a 6 interview process to get this position. 88 other nannies applied and I was hired.

Why won’t they listen to a thing I say.

I tell them baby has a tongue tie that’s prohibiting proper latch, ignored and 2 months later dentist confirms tongue toe and baby gets frenectomy at 3 months. I say baby is reacting to soy/dairy, ignored.... doctor finds blood and mucus in stool and has them switch to soy/dairy free formula. I say baby has ear infection, ignored for 2 weeks and during check out doctor confirms severe double ear infection. I correct use of car seat in their car, ignored and still not fixed.

Why hire me if you aren’t going to listen?

You could have hired someone much cheaper to play warm body for you.

This is their first child and of course they know heaps more than I ever could.


The parents hired you for your educational credentials. These are medical issues — you are not a pediatrician.


Not OP but when you've been a nanny long enough, you have seen the most common ailments. I "diagnosed" dislocated elbow once as well as tortocolis - and was right both times. Luckily I had MBs who listened to me.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2017 16:52     Subject: Why hire an educated experienced nanny if...

Anonymous wrote:You aren’t going to listen to any of their advice.

I’ve been nannying for 15 years. I have a bachelors in elementary education and child development, IBCLC, and various other child related degrees and certifications.

I went through a 6 interview process to get this position. 88 other nannies applied and I was hired.

Why won’t they listen to a thing I say.

I tell them baby has a tongue tie that’s prohibiting proper latch, ignored and 2 months later dentist confirms tongue toe and baby gets frenectomy at 3 months. I say baby is reacting to soy/dairy, ignored.... doctor finds blood and mucus in stool and has them switch to soy/dairy free formula. I say baby has ear infection, ignored for 2 weeks and during check out doctor confirms severe double ear infection. I correct use of car seat in their car, ignored and still not fixed.

Why hire me if you aren’t going to listen?

You could have hired someone much cheaper to play warm body for you.

This is their first child and of course they know heaps more than I ever could.


The parents hired you for your educational credentials. These are medical issues — you are not a pediatrician.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2017 15:37     Subject: Re:Why hire an educated experienced nanny if...

Anonymous wrote:Leave, OP. It will not get better. My former employers didn't listen to be either. My poor former charge developed so many issues that so specifically warned about because they did not listen to me. I was a preschool teacher for 30 years and know what I am talking about. My former MB would read something on the internet (like night diapers explode) and believe what she read rather than what I said.

Luckily I remain close to their child who sees my current charge, now two, who has parents who do listen to my advice. My former employers see my new charge is potty trained effortlessly at 22 months while their child still has poop phobia at nearly four because they trained so late. My new charge is speaking two languages (I speak French) and signing -- my former employers insisted I only speak English and not sign so as not to confuse him. And my new charge has been speaking in full sentences since 1.5 in English. Countless examples...

Leave this job, OP. I had no idea how much stress my former employers were causing me until I found this perfect job!


Yes! Had the same experience!
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2017 15:16     Subject: Why hire an educated experienced nanny if...

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I agree w/ you OP and I'm an MB.

But I also wonder why you couldn't see this kind of nightmare coming. 6 interviews is too many - no matter what the job, and 15 years of nannying ought to give you some skills in discerning the parents you're meeting - no?


I was blinded by excellent pay and a 60% health insurance stipend. Also why I’m still here.


Ah. I've had that "blinded by pay" experience also (in a different line of work).

Well, maybe you can remediate the parents in time. Money can be worth some aggravation!
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2017 15:16     Subject: Why hire an educated experienced nanny if...

Anonymous wrote:You aren’t going to listen to any of their advice.

I’ve been nannying for 15 years. I have a bachelors in elementary education and child development, IBCLC, and various other child related degrees and certifications.

I went through a 6 interview process to get this position. 88 other nannies applied and I was hired.

Why won’t they listen to a thing I say.

I tell them baby has a tongue tie that’s prohibiting proper latch, ignored and 2 months later dentist confirms tongue toe and baby gets frenectomy at 3 months. I say baby is reacting to soy/dairy, ignored.... doctor finds blood and mucus in stool and has them switch to soy/dairy free formula. I say baby has ear infection, ignored for 2 weeks and during check out doctor confirms severe double ear infection. I correct use of car seat in their car, ignored and still not fixed.

Why hire me if you aren’t going to listen?

You could have hired someone much cheaper to play warm body for you.

This is their first child and of course they know heaps more than I ever could.


You are not alone! Currently experiencing this also, everything on the internet is more valid than anything I have to say or suggest! What I don't understand is why the specifically went through the trouble of hiring someone with such education and experience to not use them to their full potential?!
I had a conversation with my employers and told them it is as if I do not know how to do my job sometimes or they do not trust meeith their child, they wereshocked LOL
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2017 14:55     Subject: Re:Why hire an educated experienced nanny if...

Leave, OP. It will not get better. My former employers didn't listen to be either. My poor former charge developed so many issues that so specifically warned about because they did not listen to me. I was a preschool teacher for 30 years and know what I am talking about. My former MB would read something on the internet (like night diapers explode) and believe what she read rather than what I said.

Luckily I remain close to their child who sees my current charge, now two, who has parents who do listen to my advice. My former employers see my new charge is potty trained effortlessly at 22 months while their child still has poop phobia at nearly four because they trained so late. My new charge is speaking two languages (I speak French) and signing -- my former employers insisted I only speak English and not sign so as not to confuse him. And my new charge has been speaking in full sentences since 1.5 in English. Countless examples...

Leave this job, OP. I had no idea how much stress my former employers were causing me until I found this perfect job!
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2017 14:21     Subject: Why hire an educated experienced nanny if...

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: Part of being an experienced nanny is also knowing how to work with new parents. This is pretty typical behavior. Some parents are going to listen to everything the nanny says right off the bat simply because they think she walks on water. Most parents are not like that. When you say you flagged these things for them, how did you flag it? Did you mention it offhand or in passing? Did you send it via email? Did you explain why you thought these things were happening and if so how? You can’t reasonably expect them to automatically trust your intuition more than their own. If I were making any of these claims to a nanny family, I would start taking copious notes as soon as I noticed the issue and I would be coming to them with actual data tracking things like allergy responses especially. I would submit it to them in writing along with links to sources like the AAP sponsored healthychildren.org website with information describing signs and symptoms, or with screenshots of the relevant parts of their own car seat manual. Just because you have been doing this for a long time doesn’t mean you are going to know more about every single thing than they do, and if you come across as judge mental and critical in person to the same extent that you do in this post, that is going to undermine your authority as well. Feel free to quit and look for another job, but anytime a job doesn’t work out it is a chance for self reflection and a change in tactics for next time.


The parents could have done research on their own! They could of also taken the child to the doctors to confirm. I don’t think nannies with 20 + years know everything, but I’m sure they know a little something. I would be annoyed too. At the end of the day, the baby possibly suffered longer because parents didn’t take a listening eat, and at least confirm what their nanny suspected.


So which is it? The parents should be doing research or the parents should listen to everything the nanny tells them? I am not saying they are parents of the year. I am saying that part of being a nanny is working through these issues with parents effectively and without blame and judgement.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2017 14:07     Subject: Why hire an educated experienced nanny if...

Anonymous wrote: Part of being an experienced nanny is also knowing how to work with new parents. This is pretty typical behavior. Some parents are going to listen to everything the nanny says right off the bat simply because they think she walks on water. Most parents are not like that. When you say you flagged these things for them, how did you flag it? Did you mention it offhand or in passing? Did you send it via email? Did you explain why you thought these things were happening and if so how? You can’t reasonably expect them to automatically trust your intuition more than their own. If I were making any of these claims to a nanny family, I would start taking copious notes as soon as I noticed the issue and I would be coming to them with actual data tracking things like allergy responses especially. I would submit it to them in writing along with links to sources like the AAP sponsored healthychildren.org website with information describing signs and symptoms, or with screenshots of the relevant parts of their own car seat manual. Just because you have been doing this for a long time doesn’t mean you are going to know more about every single thing than they do, and if you come across as judge mental and critical in person to the same extent that you do in this post, that is going to undermine your authority as well. Feel free to quit and look for another job, but anytime a job doesn’t work out it is a chance for self reflection and a change in tactics for next time.


The parents could have done research on their own! They could of also taken the child to the doctors to confirm. I don’t think nannies with 20 + years know everything, but I’m sure they know a little something. I would be annoyed too. At the end of the day, the baby possibly suffered longer because parents didn’t take a listening eat, and at least confirm what their nanny suspected.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2017 13:41     Subject: Why hire an educated experienced nanny if...

Anonymous wrote:I agree w/ you OP and I'm an MB.

But I also wonder why you couldn't see this kind of nightmare coming. 6 interviews is too many - no matter what the job, and 15 years of nannying ought to give you some skills in discerning the parents you're meeting - no?


I was blinded by excellent pay and a 60% health insurance stipend. Also why I’m still here.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2017 13:33     Subject: Why hire an educated experienced nanny if...

Part of being an experienced nanny is also knowing how to work with new parents. This is pretty typical behavior. Some parents are going to listen to everything the nanny says right off the bat simply because they think she walks on water. Most parents are not like that. When you say you flagged these things for them, how did you flag it? Did you mention it offhand or in passing? Did you send it via email? Did you explain why you thought these things were happening and if so how? You can’t reasonably expect them to automatically trust your intuition more than their own. If I were making any of these claims to a nanny family, I would start taking copious notes as soon as I noticed the issue and I would be coming to them with actual data tracking things like allergy responses especially. I would submit it to them in writing along with links to sources like the AAP sponsored healthychildren.org website with information describing signs and symptoms, or with screenshots of the relevant parts of their own car seat manual. Just because you have been doing this for a long time doesn’t mean you are going to know more about every single thing than they do, and if you come across as judge mental and critical in person to the same extent that you do in this post, that is going to undermine your authority as well. Feel free to quit and look for another job, but anytime a job doesn’t work out it is a chance for self reflection and a change in tactics for next time.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2017 13:24     Subject: Why hire an educated experienced nanny if...

Anonymous wrote:I agree w/ you OP and I'm an MB.

But I also wonder why you couldn't see this kind of nightmare coming. 6 interviews is too many - no matter what the job, and 15 years of nannying ought to give you some skills in discerning the parents you're meeting - no?


I usually do 5-8 interviews. Between phone calls, Skype and possibly in person, they add up quickly. However, I'm a live-in nanny, and it's not just about finding a good fit for family and nanny, it's also important to make sure that we can all live together.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2017 13:15     Subject: Why hire an educated experienced nanny if...

I agree w/ you OP and I'm an MB.

But I also wonder why you couldn't see this kind of nightmare coming. 6 interviews is too many - no matter what the job, and 15 years of nannying ought to give you some skills in discerning the parents you're meeting - no?
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2017 12:27     Subject: Why hire an educated experienced nanny if...

Quit before the real crazyness begins.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2017 12:18     Subject: Why hire an educated experienced nanny if...

I love first time parents who truly believe childbirth imbues them with special knowledge of childhood development. Just try to keep your laughter to a minimum.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2017 10:53     Subject: Why hire an educated experienced nanny if...

You aren’t going to listen to any of their advice.

I’ve been nannying for 15 years. I have a bachelors in elementary education and child development, IBCLC, and various other child related degrees and certifications.

I went through a 6 interview process to get this position. 88 other nannies applied and I was hired.

Why won’t they listen to a thing I say.

I tell them baby has a tongue tie that’s prohibiting proper latch, ignored and 2 months later dentist confirms tongue toe and baby gets frenectomy at 3 months. I say baby is reacting to soy/dairy, ignored.... doctor finds blood and mucus in stool and has them switch to soy/dairy free formula. I say baby has ear infection, ignored for 2 weeks and during check out doctor confirms severe double ear infection. I correct use of car seat in their car, ignored and still not fixed.

Why hire me if you aren’t going to listen?

You could have hired someone much cheaper to play warm body for you.

This is their first child and of course they know heaps more than I ever could.