Anonymous
Post 10/08/2017 09:52     Subject: Nanny not "teaching" things

No one is saying that you can't learn AND have fun. What we are saying is that if your primary goal is to master academic skills, you are absolutely going to be doing that at the expense of child-led play. And the gold-standard of child development is child-led play with a loving and responsive caregiver for at least the first 3-4 years. If a child is pretending to cook and is creating an elaborate pretend recipe and you interrupt her flow to point out that her pretend bag of flour has an F on it or to count aloud how many ingredients she has...you are not teaching her more than she would learn through you entering into her play with her.
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2017 09:40     Subject: Re:Nanny not "teaching" things

You can add a lot of "academics" into your routine. I always sing the alphabet when washing my charge's hands and counted with her as well as asking "how many?" of something she wants or has. I point out letters on signs, and a repeated word in her books when we are reading.
Further it is important to develop an emotional IQ by giving words to her emotions and them talking about how others - in books or a doll - is feeling.

It is never one or the other. You can do it all fairly easily.


I love this approach!! Makes learning fun and age appropriate!
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2017 22:19     Subject: Nanny not "teaching" things

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: Knowing that stuff at this age is like a party trick. It's cute and it makes the parents feel good but there's really no evidence that it has any correlation to long-term academic success. What does have a long-term correlation to academic success is plenty of creative play and social play ( especially outdoors or sensory-based), since those build strong neural pathways, help with body integration and sensory organization and teach executive function.


They do a lot of play with their friends and outside. Is there anything in particular that we should be encouraging? What is creative play?


PP here. My twin charges are just over 2. Activities this week:

driving toy cars "to the store," and filling them with "food," (actually leaves), then driving them home and unloading the groceries--lots of turn-taking, language, memory work via listing, one-to-one correspondence, and symbolic thinking.

We made birdfeeders with prickly pinecones, sticky peanut butter and silky/grainy birdseed. They loved the birdseed texture so much that I dumped the rest of the bag into the kiddie pool so that they could sit and walk in it--sensory stimulation, cause-and-effect, body integration, crossing-the-midline, balance and proprioceptive input.

Practiced changing their baby dolls' diapers and preparing and serving baby food--motor planning, ordering steps, gross and fine-motor skills, lots and lots of language, emotion language and emotional response modeling.

We made muffins--sensory stimulation, logical reasoning and ordering of steps, one-to-one correspondence, early science (relative volume), gross and fine motor control and planning

Played memory--well, memory skills, duh!, language practice, sorting and comparing, turn-taking and sharing, emotional control

Obviously we did more than this but my point is that even for very simple activities, kids are learning a lot. I think there is a false dichotomy presented to parents that you can either "let kids be kids" and they won't learn much, or you can "focus on education" (which always seems to mean academics) and they will learn. The reality is that the majority of the academic skills in the early grades are things that you can painstakingly teach at 2 or 3 or 4, OR they can pickit up quite easily at 4/5/6/7. The big question is what are they missing if you are focused on making them learn these academic parlour tricks at the youngest possible age? Well, they are missing play--play is not a universal childhood trait because it's nice to have fun. Play is universal to human children across cultures because it is the way out brains and bodies are meant to develop. If you allow kids to mostly manifest their own interests and desires and needs during play, they will create a rich and varied sensory diet, a strong and healthy body (including the underlying brain structure) and a complex social understanding that are the basic building blocks of later knowledge.



You can add a lot of "academics" into your routine. I always sing the alphabet when washing my charge's hands and counted with her as well as asking "how many?" of something she wants or has. I point out letters on signs, and a repeated word in her books when we are reading.
Further it is important to develop an emotional IQ by giving words to her emotions and them talking about how others - in books or a doll - is feeling.

It is never one or the other. You can do it all fairly easily.
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2017 21:17     Subject: Nanny not "teaching" things

Parent training is in order here.
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2017 20:03     Subject: Nanny not "teaching" things

You don’t need to worry about the “academic” stuff until your child is around 5. It is developmentally inappropriate to do so at an early age. Some kids learn earlier than others, but kids at 2 scribble, it’s what they do.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2017 14:23     Subject: Re:Nanny not "teaching" things

Kids needs to learn to be nice and have good manners, the fucking ABC's and Numbers are not important, even speech specialists agree on that. ABC's and Numbers can learn it fast at school as well another language or reinforce English.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2017 12:36     Subject: Nanny not "teaching" things

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: Knowing that stuff at this age is like a party trick. It's cute and it makes the parents feel good but there's really no evidence that it has any correlation to long-term academic success. What does have a long-term correlation to academic success is plenty of creative play and social play ( especially outdoors or sensory-based), since those build strong neural pathways, help with body integration and sensory organization and teach executive function.


They do a lot of play with their friends and outside. Is there anything in particular that we should be encouraging? What is creative play?
Creative play is whatever the kid chooses to play and uses their imagination without being told what to do or think or say by an adult. Playing house, playing store, playing with babydolls, setting up trains or cars and playing with them, that's all creative play.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2017 00:20     Subject: Nanny not "teaching" things

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: Knowing that stuff at this age is like a party trick. It's cute and it makes the parents feel good but there's really no evidence that it has any correlation to long-term academic success. What does have a long-term correlation to academic success is plenty of creative play and social play ( especially outdoors or sensory-based), since those build strong neural pathways, help with body integration and sensory organization and teach executive function.


They do a lot of play with their friends and outside. Is there anything in particular that we should be encouraging? What is creative play?


PP here. My twin charges are just over 2. Activities this week:

driving toy cars "to the store," and filling them with "food," (actually leaves), then driving them home and unloading the groceries--lots of turn-taking, language, memory work via listing, one-to-one correspondence, and symbolic thinking.

We made birdfeeders with prickly pinecones, sticky peanut butter and silky/grainy birdseed. They loved the birdseed texture so much that I dumped the rest of the bag into the kiddie pool so that they could sit and walk in it--sensory stimulation, cause-and-effect, body integration, crossing-the-midline, balance and proprioceptive input.

Practiced changing their baby dolls' diapers and preparing and serving baby food--motor planning, ordering steps, gross and fine-motor skills, lots and lots of language, emotion language and emotional response modeling.

We made muffins--sensory stimulation, logical reasoning and ordering of steps, one-to-one correspondence, early science (relative volume), gross and fine motor control and planning

Played memory--well, memory skills, duh!, language practice, sorting and comparing, turn-taking and sharing, emotional control

Obviously we did more than this but my point is that even for very simple activities, kids are learning a lot. I think there is a false dichotomy presented to parents that you can either "let kids be kids" and they won't learn much, or you can "focus on education" (which always seems to mean academics) and they will learn. The reality is that the majority of the academic skills in the early grades are things that you can painstakingly teach at 2 or 3 or 4, OR they can pickit up quite easily at 4/5/6/7. The big question is what are they missing if you are focused on making them learn these academic parlour tricks at the youngest possible age? Well, they are missing play--play is not a universal childhood trait because it's nice to have fun. Play is universal to human children across cultures because it is the way out brains and bodies are meant to develop. If you allow kids to mostly manifest their own interests and desires and needs during play, they will create a rich and varied sensory diet, a strong and healthy body (including the underlying brain structure) and a complex social understanding that are the basic building blocks of later knowledge.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2017 18:16     Subject: Nanny not "teaching" things

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: Knowing that stuff at this age is like a party trick. It's cute and it makes the parents feel good but there's really no evidence that it has any correlation to long-term academic success. What does have a long-term correlation to academic success is plenty of creative play and social play ( especially outdoors or sensory-based), since those build strong neural pathways, help with body integration and sensory organization and teach executive function.


They do a lot of play with their friends and outside. Is there anything in particular that we should be encouraging? What is creative play?

Where do you live? Parent education would help your apprehension.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2017 10:29     Subject: Nanny not "teaching" things

Building blocks or legos would be best if you're nanny is not into academics. PS I am a nanny
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2017 08:40     Subject: Nanny not "teaching" things

Anonymous wrote: Knowing that stuff at this age is like a party trick. It's cute and it makes the parents feel good but there's really no evidence that it has any correlation to long-term academic success. What does have a long-term correlation to academic success is plenty of creative play and social play ( especially outdoors or sensory-based), since those build strong neural pathways, help with body integration and sensory organization and teach executive function.


They do a lot of play with their friends and outside. Is there anything in particular that we should be encouraging? What is creative play?
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2017 05:48     Subject: Nanny not "teaching" things

Knowing that stuff at this age is like a party trick. It's cute and it makes the parents feel good but there's really no evidence that it has any correlation to long-term academic success. What does have a long-term correlation to academic success is plenty of creative play and social play ( especially outdoors or sensory-based), since those build strong neural pathways, help with body integration and sensory organization and teach executive function.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2017 03:58     Subject: Nanny not "teaching" things

Let it go, she's only 2.5 yo and will learn at preschool.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2017 22:33     Subject: Re:Nanny not "teaching" things

Our nanny was a preschool teacher and DD (2.5) does know her letters, numbers, shapes and colors (all colors and what colors combined make other colors) as well as about 25 sight words. Nanny is teaching her to read now. Academics were important to me, too and DD has really thrived and is always asking what something "says" and how to sound it out so it has been a perfect match with her personality and Nanny's skills.

That said, I don't think it really matters in the long run. DD has always been ahead of her peers because of Nanny, but it generally all evens out once the kids are in elementary school. What Nanny has given her - which is invaluable now and in the long run - is a love of reading/books. Now that is one thing that does translate into academic success.

Anonymous
Post 10/03/2017 22:13     Subject: Nanny not "teaching" things

My nanny arranges an endless amounts of play dates, so I have the most social 2.5 year old, but she seems to be behind "academically." She doesn't know her letters or drawing more than scribbles. She just started preschool, but it more playbased. At what age do I need to worry about academics?