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Anonymous wrote:We just joined an existing share so my situation is probably different but I'll be taking Fridays off and we still had to guarantee the full hours for the share since that was the salary our nanny was used to. So it is split 50/50 even though he won't be there all the time. I look at it as similar to daycare--the rate is the rate with no discount if you miss a day.

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Family 2 pays for Friday or finds another nanny share. Most shares are 5 days a week. Good luck to them finding one that is only 4 days a week.

It doesn't really matter what days the hours are on. If family A needs the nanny for 40 hours, they pay for 40 hours. If family B needs the nanny for more than 40 hours, they pay for those hours themselves.

If either family is unhappy with the arrangement, then presumably they won't match up as nanny share partners. The family who needs overtime hours doesn't automatically get the upper hand, requiring the other family to follow suit and pay for hours they don't need.

I disagree. My kids go to daycare. All parents pay the same whether our child is there 4 days a week or 5 days a week, 8 hours a day or 9.

Personally i would find another family/one that wants 5 days a week/50 hours/week.

Which is probably why you don't know that nannies are paid on an hourly basis (whether employed by a single family or in a nanny share situation). The payment is not structured the same way as daycare tuition at all. Apples to oranges.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We just joined an existing share so my situation is probably different but I'll be taking Fridays off and we still had to guarantee the full hours for the share since that was the salary our nanny was used to. So it is split 50/50 even though he won't be there all the time. I look at it as similar to daycare--the rate is the rate with no discount if you miss a day.

+1

Family 2 pays for Friday or finds another nanny share. Most shares are 5 days a week. Good luck to them finding one that is only 4 days a week.

It doesn't really matter what days the hours are on. If family A needs the nanny for 40 hours, they pay for 40 hours. If family B needs the nanny for more than 40 hours, they pay for those hours themselves.

If either family is unhappy with the arrangement, then presumably they won't match up as nanny share partners. The family who needs overtime hours doesn't automatically get the upper hand, requiring the other family to follow suit and pay for hours they don't need.

I disagree. My kids go to daycare. All parents pay the same whether our child is there 4 days a week or 5 days a week, 8 hours a day or 9.

Personally i would find another family/one that wants 5 days a week/50 hours/week.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We just joined an existing share so my situation is probably different but I'll be taking Fridays off and we still had to guarantee the full hours for the share since that was the salary our nanny was used to. So it is split 50/50 even though he won't be there all the time. I look at it as similar to daycare--the rate is the rate with no discount if you miss a day.

+1

Family 2 pays for Friday or finds another nanny share. Most shares are 5 days a week. Good luck to them finding one that is only 4 days a week.

It doesn't really matter what days the hours are on. If family A needs the nanny for 40 hours, they pay for 40 hours. If family B needs the nanny for more than 40 hours, they pay for those hours themselves.

If either family is unhappy with the arrangement, then presumably they won't match up as nanny share partners. The family who needs overtime hours doesn't automatically get the upper hand, requiring the other family to follow suit and pay for hours they don't need.

Whoever needs 40 hours pays the nanny for 40 hours. If a family needs more than 40 hours per week, they need to pay over time at the singe-child rate. It is irrelevant what days the overtime falls on, really.

Anonymous wrote:We just joined an existing share so my situation is probably different but I'll be taking Fridays off and we still had to guarantee the full hours for the share since that was the salary our nanny was used to. So it is split 50/50 even though he won't be there all the time. I look at it as similar to daycare--the rate is the rate with no discount if you miss a day.

+1

Family 2 pays for Friday or finds another nanny share. Most shares are 5 days a week. Good luck to them finding one that is only 4 days a week.

Thank you all!

Anonymous wrote:I came over here from seeing your post on general parenting.

You need to establish two rates: a two-child rate and a one-child rate. Each of these will have its own overtime rate as well (time-and-a-half).

For Mon-Thurs (40 hrs) the nanny earns the two-child standard rate. On Friday she earns the one-child overtime rate.

Both families split the Mon-Thurs down the middle, unless there are other circumstances that would lead to a different arrangement.

If you don't like it, find another share or find another family that needs Friday coverage so you can split the cost of that day.

21:13 again. I just wanted to point out that although this seems logical and fair, it's not legal. The nanny has to get paid a blended OT rate. (Which, in this instance will be very close to the 2 child rate for OT). Again, the families can split the responsibility for paying the nanny as they wish, but the nanny's documented total hourly payments need to be on a blended basis.

It's funny, the joint employment distinction usually comes up in the context of minimum wage, where it would seem like a detriment to nannies. But this is actually the sort of situation it was meant for. I.e., in order to prevent OT abuse. Not that anyone is trying to screw the nanny in this case, but, by using the system above you are not giving her all the OT to which she is entitled. There's no logical reason, from her point of view, the Friday hours are the OT ones instead of a different day.

Family 2 may not want to pay a blended rate, but they are in a nanny share for a reason. If they don't find another family that wants exactly the same hours and a nanny for whom those exact hour work, then they have to play along. Unless, of course Family 1 are total pushovers or couldn't care less about paying an extra $100 per week.

We just joined an existing share so my situation is probably different but I'll be taking Fridays off and we still had to guarantee the full hours for the share since that was the salary our nanny was used to. So it is split 50/50 even though he won't be there all the time. I look at it as similar to daycare--the rate is the rate with no discount if you miss a day.

I agree with the two rate I get $24 for two kids and $18 for one.

I came over here from seeing your post on general parenting.

You need to establish two rates: a two-child rate and a one-child rate. Each of these will have its own overtime rate as well (time-and-a-half).

For Mon-Thurs (40 hrs) the nanny earns the two-child standard rate. On Friday she earns the one-child overtime rate.

Both families split the Mon-Thurs down the middle, unless there are other circumstances that would lead to a different arrangement.

If you don't like it, find another share or find another family that needs Friday coverage so you can split the cost of that day.

I posted about blended Ot rates below, and I don't feel like retyping, so here's a link to a good explanation!

http://www.epaysystems.com/blended-overtime-rates/

Basically, if you need to be legal, you have to sp Cody a one and two child rate, pay 40 hours at two child rate, 10 hours of one child rate, and 10 hours of additional calculated OT.

Now, this says nothing about how the families split up the pay. You could still split the nannies wage 5:4 between the families as long as the nannies rate is documented correctly.

I think family 1 needs to suck it up and pay you your normal single child rate at overtime on Fridays. They are already asking you to work 40 hours Mon-Thurs, nanny share or not. They would be paying overtime for that extra 10 hours on Friday even if they weren't part of a nanny share.

Either find a new share family or family 1 pay for friday only.

How would the payment split for this nanny share work?

Family 1:
Monday to Friday 8am to 6pm

Family 2:
Monday to Thursday 8am to 6pm
(No hours on Friday)

Family 2 understandably doesn't want to pay overtime so a blended rate for all the hours doesn't seem like the best solution. But Family 1 understandably doesn't want to pay the single child rate for ten hours every Friday. What do other people do? Needs to be all legal (including overtime, taxes, etc.)