Anonymous
Post 12/19/2016 09:13     Subject: Time and a half for Christmas Day?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What. Does. Your. Contract. Say.


If this issue was in her contract, why would she post the question?


Because it sounds like she knew she was expected to work some holidays, but as she thought about it more, she figured it might be "worth" more than a regular day. I would agree that if that were the case, it would have been spelled out in the contract.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2016 07:34     Subject: Time and a half for Christmas Day?

Anonymous wrote:What. Does. Your. Contract. Say.


If this issue was in her contract, why would she post the question?
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2016 19:58     Subject: Time and a half for Christmas Day?

What. Does. Your. Contract. Say.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2016 18:50     Subject: Time and a half for Christmas Day?

doodlebug wrote:If they're working on Xmas day, I GUARANTEE they're being paid extra for it...both in cash and in an extra day off later. I'd still talk to them about what they're planning to do for YOU but it's completely reasonable to expect double pay if you'll be missing out on your own festivities. Perhaps they'll let you take the kids to your home for the day, or out to the movies etc to make it a more special day instead of same ol' same ol'.


Um, no. That's not how it works for doctors. Call is part of their job; each doctor in the practice takes a certain number of holidays each year, and generally the Jews volunteer to do Christmas and Easter. In fact, where I grew up in Mobile, AL, Jewish doctors would volunteer to work on Christmas in hospitals where they had privileges to free up another doctor to be with his/her family, even if it wasn't their turn or part of their employment contract. No extra pay. Just good will.

I would assume that the nanny of emergency room physicians has a very different kind of schedule than most nannies. I also would assume that working holidays, including Christmas, was disclosed as part of the hiring process as part of the regular hours. That was the time to object, ask for a different rate, or say that she was not willing to work on Christmas. Then the couple would have been free to accept her terms, or move on and try to find someone else.

The OP clearly feels that working on Christmas should be acknowledged as something special, and she should address it before it comes up again next year. However, if I were she, I would not bring it up this year unless she is going to ask to take it as a paid day off. I think they will say no to extra pay, and I also think that asking might affect whatever bonus they were planning to give which, I would assume, would reflect their good will for her working the holiday.

If I were those physicians, however, I might reconsider having both people work Christmas/Easter for the next few years, however, since it does seem kind of ridiculous to free up another doctor to be home with his/her family by requiring someone else (their nanny) to work that day. This is something else I would encourage OP to point out AFTER the holiday.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2016 11:57     Subject: Time and a half for Christmas Day?

doodlebug wrote:If they're working on Xmas day, I GUARANTEE they're being paid extra for it...both in cash and in an extra day off later. I'd still talk to them about what they're planning to do for YOU but it's completely reasonable to expect double pay if you'll be missing out on your own festivities. Perhaps they'll let you take the kids to your home for the day, or out to the movies etc to make it a more special day instead of same ol' same ol'.


Im the physician PP again. I've worked every Christmas for 20 years. I've never been paid extra for a holiday. Usually holidays are rotated, so in a situation like this, they may be more likely to get THanksgiving or another holiday, but across a half dozen hospitals and as many variations in seniority, I've never seen a physician get extra holiday pay as a given.

Honestly, what you have here is a religious holiday which is not a federal holiday this year. As a Jew, I've dealt with this my entire life, as our religious holidays are never federal holidays. You either request the day of, work the days as a regular day, or negotiate, in advance, what it will require for you to work that day.
doodlebug
Post 12/18/2016 11:43     Subject: Time and a half for Christmas Day?

If they're working on Xmas day, I GUARANTEE they're being paid extra for it...both in cash and in an extra day off later. I'd still talk to them about what they're planning to do for YOU but it's completely reasonable to expect double pay if you'll be missing out on your own festivities. Perhaps they'll let you take the kids to your home for the day, or out to the movies etc to make it a more special day instead of same ol' same ol'.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2016 11:39     Subject: Time and a half for Christmas Day?

Anonymous wrote:If you agree to work on a legal holiday, you should expect at least time and a half compensation.

PP here. Aside from the fact that that iOS bad to assume you will get benefits at work that aren't discussed beforehand, keep
In mind the legal holiday this year is dec 26.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2016 10:59     Subject: Time and a half for Christmas Day?

If you agree to work on a legal holiday, you should expect at least time and a half compensation.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2016 09:37     Subject: Time and a half for Christmas Day?

It's not legally required, so I wouldn't assume you get extra unless you negotiate for it. Honestly, I'm in a similar situation (Jewish doctor... always work Christmas). We give our childcare provider a bonus at Christmas, that's the thank you. If they feel they need extra cash to make working on Christmas worth it, Id expect them to explicitly negotiate that.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2016 09:33     Subject: Time and a half for Christmas Day?

OP, do you celebrate Christmas?

If so, I might talk to them and see if they have any options for backup care on Christmas. It sounds like they are considerate about making Christmas a holiday for others, and there's a good chance they have Jewish friends who would be fine taking their kids for a day.

If so and there's no option for backup care, then yes, I'd expect some sort of higher pay.

If you don't celebrate Christmas, then I wouldn't think anything about it.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2016 07:42     Subject: Re:Time and a half for Christmas Day?

OP here. My employers are Jewish and both work as ER doctors who always work on Christmas so their Christian colleagues can be with their families.

I loathe questions like this which imply that parents having nannies are somehow abandoning their children.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2016 06:39     Subject: Time and a half for Christmas Day?

What will they be doing on Christmas Day while you provide the care of their children?
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2016 03:06     Subject: Time and a half for Christmas Day?

I also think you should be paid double your rate if you work on Christmas Day.

Anything less would be a direct insult.
doodlebug
Post 12/18/2016 01:23     Subject: Time and a half for Christmas Day?

I don't know; it's not legally required. If it's important to you, then I'd hammer it out now to make sure you're on the same page and not about to be disappointed. Personally, I wouldn't touch Xmas day for less than double time. Why on earth can't they handle their own kids on ONE day??
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2016 22:54     Subject: Time and a half for Christmas Day?

I work for a very by-the-book family on weekends and was wondering if I will be paid time-and-a-half for working on Christmas? It is a legal holiday but also a Sunday this year.