Anonymous
06/08/2016 13:39
Subject: Advice and Rate Estimate, Please
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Yes, for an average nanny you may pay her an average hourly rate. But what educated parent wants an average nanny? Do tell.
The ones who would really prefer to have their child/children in day care because of the cost difference between day care and a nanny, but are stuck on years-long waitlists. I see a lot of complaining about people who think that anyone paying an average rate is "cheap". I'd love to be able to pay $20+/hour for a great nanny...but I can't. As it is, I'll be digging into my savings in order to pay what has been listed here as the average. Child care, until I can get into a day care, is going to cost well above my mortgage payment. I can't just find another child care option because there are none. So please spare us your judgment, this is plenty stressful without our attitude. You want to make more than the average, then don't apply for those jobs. You deal with the high end people, and my educated but average for the city self will find people who can work for me within my budget.
Thank you for your crystal clear illustration why it's SO very important to include your hourly pay range whenever you advertise for your job. So both parents and nannies can avoid wasting time on vastly different expectations.
Thank you again.
Anonymous
06/08/2016 13:36
Subject: Advice and Rate Estimate, Please
Anonymous wrote:Imo you'd get only a mediocre nanny for your job at $20/hr, but perhaps someone else here knows of an "excellent" available nanny who'd be interested. Not sure what sort of nanny you're hoping to find, OP.
Ignore. Find out for yourself by posting an ad at websites like sittercity, care, urbansitter. $20/hr for FT work (sometimes you need to pay a higher rate for PT to make it worth it to nannys) for 1.5 kids? You'll have more than 30 applications from just one site (nannys on urbansitter tend to ask higher rates than the other two). Try it out at $2 less than what you can pay. If you don't like the applicants, go up and see if you get better. Where there is a good fit on both sides is what the market rate is for your job duties.
Anonymous
06/08/2016 11:19
Subject: Advice and Rate Estimate, Please
Anonymous wrote:
Yes, for an average nanny you may pay her an average hourly rate. But what educated parent wants an average nanny? Do tell.
The ones who would really prefer to have their child/children in day care because of the cost difference between day care and a nanny, but are stuck on years-long waitlists. I see a lot of complaining about people who think that anyone paying an average rate is "cheap". I'd love to be able to pay $20+/hour for a great nanny...but I can't. As it is, I'll be digging into my savings in order to pay what has been listed here as the average. Child care, until I can get into a day care, is going to cost well above my mortgage payment. I can't just find another child care option because there are none. So please spare us your judgment, this is plenty stressful without our attitude. You want to make more than the average, then don't apply for those jobs. You deal with the high end people, and my educated but average for the city self will find people who can work for me within my budget.
Anonymous
06/07/2016 12:39
Subject: Advice and Rate Estimate, Please
Yes, for an average nanny you may pay her an average hourly rate. But what educated parent wants an average nanny? Do tell.
Anonymous
06/07/2016 12:31
Subject: Re:Advice and Rate Estimate, Please
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here: yes, I was thinking 10.5 hours a day. Is the rate too low or the hours too long or both?
Those hours are common with most nannies schedules. You do realize though you will need to pay overtime. The going rate is between $20-25 so your rate is fine!
Lol. So funny how some posters on this forum think the "going rate" is $15/hr, but I know some nannies who earn $30+ per hour. Different nannies have different rates.
So funny that you know some nannies who earn $30+/hr. I know 14 nannies in NW DC and not one of them makes $30+/hr. The highest I know is a nanny who makes $26/hr for three children. Nanny rates are pretty stable in this area. For one child $15-17/hr is the average rate, although all the nannies I know make at between $17-20/hr for one child (they are experienced, professional nannies with ECE or other certifications and stellar references. They are also long term nannies, all with families longer than one year.)
It's pretty easy to find resources for average nanny salaries. The DOL puts out national and regional statistics, parent surveys are common in certain areas, websites have data, neighborhood list servs and mail lists are helpful as are parent and nanny surveys. It really isn't rocket science and very stable. For one child, $15-17/hr, for two children $17-19/hr and for three $20-24/hr. Guaranteed hours, appropriate O/T, and a health care stipend. Vacation of at least two weeks (preferably 3) with two the choice of the nanny and one the parents. As many Federal holidays as parent's are allowed or other holidays such as the day after Thanksgiving or Boxing Day Off. At least 5 days of sick time (though I'd roll this into a total PTO package. If she uses her car, standard IRS exemption and a quarterly detailing of her car.
I'm not bit on the birthday gift trend for adults, but I do gift our nanny a gift card now and then because she oftens makes us dinner even though it is not her job. She just loves to cook, so we give her any money she needs to cook whatever she wants and make sure she cooks enough for herself and her family.I also just give her a spa card when she needs a break and floats an extra vacation day or leave early she she she travels. Anything I can thank of to appreciate here. Oh yes, and yearly raises.
NP. This may be the single most useful nanny post I have seen to date. Thank you!
Anonymous
06/07/2016 07:13
Subject: Re:Advice and Rate Estimate, Please
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here: yes, I was thinking 10.5 hours a day. Is the rate too low or the hours too long or both?
Those hours are common with most nannies schedules. You do realize though you will need to pay overtime. The going rate is between $20-25 so your rate is fine!
Lol. So funny how some posters on this forum think the "going rate" is $15/hr, but I know some nannies who earn $30+ per hour. Different nannies have different rates.
So funny that you know some nannies who earn $30+/hr. I know 14 nannies in NW DC and not one of them makes $30+/hr. The highest I know is a nanny who makes $26/hr for three children. Nanny rates are pretty stable in this area. For one child $15-17/hr is the average rate, although all the nannies I know make at between $17-20/hr for one child (they are experienced, professional nannies with ECE or other certifications and stellar references. They are also long term nannies, all with families longer than one year.)
It's pretty easy to find resources for average nanny salaries. The DOL puts out national and regional statistics, parent surveys are common in certain areas, websites have data, neighborhood list servs and mail lists are helpful as are parent and nanny surveys. It really isn't rocket science and very stable. For one child, $15-17/hr, for two children $17-19/hr and for three $20-24/hr. Guaranteed hours, appropriate O/T, and a health care stipend. Vacation of at least two weeks (preferably 3) with two the choice of the nanny and one the parents. As many Federal holidays as parent's are allowed or other holidays such as the day after Thanksgiving or Boxing Day Off. At least 5 days of sick time (though I'd roll this into a total PTO package. If she uses her car, standard IRS exemption and a quarterly detailing of her car.
I'm not bit on the birthday gift trend for adults, but I do gift our nanny a gift card now and then because she oftens makes us dinner even though it is not her job. She just loves to cook, so we give her any money she needs to cook whatever she wants and make sure she cooks enough for herself and her family.I also just give her a spa card when she needs a break and floats an extra vacation day or leave early she she she travels. Anything I can thank of to appreciate here. Oh yes, and yearly raises.
NP. Everything this MB/DB says is spot on from my experience as well, and I'm a nanny.
OP, if you're worried about the hours being too long, some parents split up their schedule so that parent A leaves early for work while parent B does kid hand off, and then parent A comes home earlier to relieve nanny.
Anonymous
06/07/2016 01:19
Subject: Re:Advice and Rate Estimate, Please
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here: yes, I was thinking 10.5 hours a day. Is the rate too low or the hours too long or both?
Those hours are common with most nannies schedules. You do realize though you will need to pay overtime. The going rate is between $20-25 so your rate is fine!
Lol. So funny how some posters on this forum think the "going rate" is $15/hr, but I know some nannies who earn $30+ per hour. Different nannies have different rates.
So funny that you know some nannies who earn $30+/hr. I know 14 nannies in NW DC and not one of them makes $30+/hr. The highest I know is a nanny who makes $26/hr for three children. Nanny rates are pretty stable in this area. For one child $15-17/hr is the average rate, although all the nannies I know make at between $17-20/hr for one child (they are experienced, professional nannies with ECE or other certifications and stellar references. They are also long term nannies, all with families longer than one year.)
It's pretty easy to find resources for average nanny salaries. The DOL puts out national and regional statistics, parent surveys are common in certain areas, websites have data, neighborhood list servs and mail lists are helpful as are parent and nanny surveys. It really isn't rocket science and very stable. For one child, $15-17/hr, for two children $17-19/hr and for three $20-24/hr. Guaranteed hours, appropriate O/T, and a health care stipend. Vacation of at least two weeks (preferably 3) with two the choice of the nanny and one the parents. As many Federal holidays as parent's are allowed or other holidays such as the day after Thanksgiving or Boxing Day Off. At least 5 days of sick time (though I'd roll this into a total PTO package. If she uses her car, standard IRS exemption and a quarterly detailing of her car.
I'm not bit on the birthday gift trend for adults, but I do gift our nanny a gift card now and then because she oftens makes us dinner even though it is not her job. She just loves to cook, so we give her any money she needs to cook whatever she wants and make sure she cooks enough for herself and her family.I also just give her a spa card when she needs a break and floats an extra vacation day or leave early she she she travels. Anything I can thank of to appreciate here. Oh yes, and yearly raises.
Anonymous
06/06/2016 20:35
Subject: Re:Advice and Rate Estimate, Please
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here: yes, I was thinking 10.5 hours a day. Is the rate too low or the hours too long or both?
Those hours are common with most nannies schedules. You do realize though you will need to pay overtime. The going rate is between $20-25 so your rate is fine!
Lol. So funny how some posters on this forum think the "going rate" is $15/hr, but I know some nannies who earn $30+ per hour. Different nannies have different rates.
Anonymous
06/06/2016 20:30
Subject: Re:Advice and Rate Estimate, Please
Anonymous wrote:OP here: yes, I was thinking 10.5 hours a day. Is the rate too low or the hours too long or both?
Those hours are common with most nannies schedules. You do realize though you will need to pay overtime. The going rate is between $20-25 so your rate is fine!
Anonymous
06/06/2016 20:28
Subject: Re:Advice and Rate Estimate, Please
Anonymous wrote:OP here: yes, I was thinking 10.5 hours a day. Is the rate too low or the hours too long or both?
It is a good rate, OP. You will find plenty of good candidates.
Anonymous
06/06/2016 18:51
Subject: Re:Advice and Rate Estimate, Please
OP here: yes, I was thinking 10.5 hours a day. Is the rate too low or the hours too long or both?
Anonymous
06/06/2016 18:47
Subject: Re:Advice and Rate Estimate, Please
It would only be 10.5 hours a day, not 11.5. That would be if the nanny worked until 7pm.
Anonymous
06/06/2016 18:03
Subject: Advice and Rate Estimate, Please
Imo you'd get only a mediocre nanny for your job at $20/hr, but perhaps someone else here knows of an "excellent" available nanny who'd be interested. Not sure what sort of nanny you're hoping to find, OP.
Anonymous
06/06/2016 17:33
Subject: Re:Advice and Rate Estimate, Please
You are looking at 11.5 hours 5 days a week, so your salary costs at $20/hour are as follows: $20*40+17.5*$20*1.5=$800+$525=$1325
You also need to factor in covering the employer portion of FICA (about 7.25%), so budget an extra $100. You also need to remember worker's compensation, unemployment, etc. Most nannies would be happy with $1.3k, but that's a very long, demanding workweek. Most nannies can't or won't handle it.
You also need to factor in covering the employer portion of FICA (about 7.25%), so budget an extra $100. You also need to remember worker's compensation, unemployment, etc. Most nannies would be happy with $1.3k, but that's a very long, demanding workweek. Most nannies can't or won't handle it.
Anonymous
06/06/2016 16:47
Subject: Advice and Rate Estimate, Please
Hi all,
We currently have an au pair that we love for our 3 year old son. It works great because she works less than the mandated 45 hours a week most weeks because he is in school for three hours a day. Therefore if we want to go out, have to be late, need help on the weekend, it's not a big deal to ask her to work extra.
We have another baby due in September and I will go back to work JUST as our au pair is scheduled to end her year with us in January. We will definitely go over the 45 hours a week because we need help in the mornings and I won't be home until 6pm. My husband also wants to go with a nanny over an au pair because he prefers a strict employer/employee relationship and has trouble with the blurred line that kind of exists with an au pair, even though we adore her.
I am trying to do a cost estimate for a nanny knowing that most weeks my son will be in school until 3pm and she'll be home with the baby from 7:30am to 6pm. Is $20 an hour a fair rate? We'll ask her to care for the baby, wash the kids' clothes, the baby's bottles, meals, take our older child to school and pick him up, etc. She would not necessarily have to do our laundry, grocery shop, or make meals for us. We live in NW DC, two blocks from the Metro.
I'd love your thoughts on possible arrangements we may not have thought about and if we go with a full time nanny, what a fair rate is given the nature of our family situation (which I realize is not unusual, I just don't know at all what is appropriate here).
Thank you!
We currently have an au pair that we love for our 3 year old son. It works great because she works less than the mandated 45 hours a week most weeks because he is in school for three hours a day. Therefore if we want to go out, have to be late, need help on the weekend, it's not a big deal to ask her to work extra.
We have another baby due in September and I will go back to work JUST as our au pair is scheduled to end her year with us in January. We will definitely go over the 45 hours a week because we need help in the mornings and I won't be home until 6pm. My husband also wants to go with a nanny over an au pair because he prefers a strict employer/employee relationship and has trouble with the blurred line that kind of exists with an au pair, even though we adore her.
I am trying to do a cost estimate for a nanny knowing that most weeks my son will be in school until 3pm and she'll be home with the baby from 7:30am to 6pm. Is $20 an hour a fair rate? We'll ask her to care for the baby, wash the kids' clothes, the baby's bottles, meals, take our older child to school and pick him up, etc. She would not necessarily have to do our laundry, grocery shop, or make meals for us. We live in NW DC, two blocks from the Metro.
I'd love your thoughts on possible arrangements we may not have thought about and if we go with a full time nanny, what a fair rate is given the nature of our family situation (which I realize is not unusual, I just don't know at all what is appropriate here).
Thank you!