Anonymous
Post 04/28/2016 11:58     Subject: Pros and Cons working for an active duty Military Family?

Nanny again- I really can't believe you said those things about immigrants and the LGBT. Other countries in Europe are wayyyyyy ahead of this one in terms of allowing refugees, immigrants and supporting the LGBT. We have been doing that for years- you have not. I take huge offence to that. Not supporting war, frankly I think is a good thing. In sorry but I don't share the same values as military families and could not support that lifestyle. I don't think that makes me a bad person either or a bigot.
Anonymous
Post 04/28/2016 11:57     Subject: Pros and Cons working for an active duty Military Family?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I couldn't work for a military family unless they are like the PP described. Even that, I'm not sure. I'm from a very peaceful country (I'm not American) that doesn't go to war so for me it would be hard to support that kind of family. Also, I feel like there would be a lot of job creep and extra hours or weekends with a military/single parent family. Check if they have local back up of family in the area. If not, it will be you probably pivking up the slack.

No offence intended to military families, I am a visitor in your country but I am entitled to my own beliefs and values.


I am always amazed to see statements like this on DCUM going unchallenged for the bigotry it is. Would a statement like this ever fly about an LGBT family, or an immigrant family? Try it: I am from a country that doesnt share LGBT values, so it would be hard for me to support that kind of family.

Sounds gross, right? But so many on here have no issues at all making the same kind of sweeping generalizations about military families that would not be tolerated about any other social/cultural/religious group. What is it about some progressives (and I died in the wool democrat lefty artist, make no mistake) that they are so protective against bigotry, unless of course, it is a group they deem unworthy? You clearly don't know the first fucking thing about military families, so when you say you are entitled to your values and beliefs I can only you mean you value shallow assessments and broad-sweeping stereotypes of specific groups you know little about.
[b]

Nanny again- Not to start a big discussion here, but going into other countries and killing people has nothing to do with being a bigot. War and war crimes go against my values. Ask anyone in Europe how they feel about Americans being the world police.


It's true, European countries have no military and they are very proud of their ability to stay out of all global conflicts.

FFS.
Anonymous
Post 04/28/2016 11:53     Subject: Pros and Cons working for an active duty Military Family?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I couldn't work for a military family unless they are like the PP described. Even that, I'm not sure. I'm from a very peaceful country (I'm not American) that doesn't go to war so for me it would be hard to support that kind of family. Also, I feel like there would be a lot of job creep and extra hours or weekends with a military/single parent family. Check if they have local back up of family in the area. If not, it will be you probably pivking up the slack.

No offence intended to military families, I am a visitor in your country but I am entitled to my own beliefs and values.


I am always amazed to see statements like this on DCUM going unchallenged for the bigotry it is. Would a statement like this ever fly about an LGBT family, or an immigrant family? Try it: I am from a country that doesnt share LGBT values, so it would be hard for me to support that kind of family.

Sounds gross, right? But so many on here have no issues at all making the same kind of sweeping generalizations about military families that would not be tolerated about any other social/cultural/religious group. What is it about some progressives (and I died in the wool democrat lefty artist, make no mistake) that they are so protective against bigotry, unless of course, it is a group they deem unworthy? You clearly don't know the first fucking thing about military families, so when you say you are entitled to your values and beliefs I can only you mean you value shallow assessments and broad-sweeping stereotypes of specific groups you know little about.
[b]

Nanny again- Not to start a big discussion here, but going into other countries and killing people has nothing to do with being a bigot. War and war crimes go against my values. Ask anyone in Europe how they feel about Americans being the world police.
Anonymous
Post 04/28/2016 11:06     Subject: Pros and Cons working for an active duty Military Family?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I couldn't work for a military family unless they are like the PP described. Even that, I'm not sure. I'm from a very peaceful country (I'm not American) that doesn't go to war so for me it would be hard to support that kind of family. Also, I feel like there would be a lot of job creep and extra hours or weekends with a military/single parent family. Check if they have local back up of family in the area. If not, it will be you probably pivking up the slack.

No offence intended to military families, I am a visitor in your country but I am entitled to my own beliefs and values.


I am always amazed to see statements like this on DCUM going unchallenged for the bigotry it is. Would a statement like this ever fly about an LGBT family, or an immigrant family? Try it: I am from a country that doesnt share LGBT values, so it would be hard for me to support that kind of family.

Sounds gross, right? But so many on here have no issues at all making the same kind of sweeping generalizations about military families that would not be tolerated about any other social/cultural/religious group. What is it about some progressives (and I died in the wool democrat lefty artist, make no mistake) that they are so protective against bigotry, unless of course, it is a group they deem unworthy? You clearly don't know the first fucking thing about military families, so when you say you are entitled to your values and beliefs I can only you mean you value shallow assessments and broad-sweeping stereotypes of specific groups you know little about.


This isn't even who you were talking to but... There's a huge difference between supporting a military family and supporting immigrants/LGBT families. War is a huge reason why our country is starving, uneducated, and broke. Not to mention everyone who is being killed. Meanwhile supporting LGBT/immigrant families is like supporting.. Well... A family. They aren't hurting anyone. And this is from a fellow Christian. Last I checked Jesus didn't say shit about LGBT families. He did however promote peace. If you want to pick more things out of the bible how about the part that says if a woman is raped she has to marry her rapist and the rapist pays gold to her father. English Standard Version ? Deuteronomy 22:29 ?

"then the man who lay with her shall give to the father of the young woman fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife, because he has violated her. He may not divorce her all his days."


ALSO - me again, I know all about military families. My dad is in the Air Force, boyfriend was Navy (no longer supports war) and I worked for a military family for a year.
Anonymous
Post 04/28/2016 10:56     Subject: Pros and Cons working for an active duty Military Family?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I couldn't work for a military family unless they are like the PP described. Even that, I'm not sure. I'm from a very peaceful country (I'm not American) that doesn't go to war so for me it would be hard to support that kind of family. Also, I feel like there would be a lot of job creep and extra hours or weekends with a military/single parent family. Check if they have local back up of family in the area. If not, it will be you probably pivking up the slack.

No offence intended to military families, I am a visitor in your country but I am entitled to my own beliefs and values.


I am always amazed to see statements like this on DCUM going unchallenged for the bigotry it is. Would a statement like this ever fly about an LGBT family, or an immigrant family? Try it: I am from a country that doesnt share LGBT values, so it would be hard for me to support that kind of family.

Sounds gross, right? But so many on here have no issues at all making the same kind of sweeping generalizations about military families that would not be tolerated about any other social/cultural/religious group. What is it about some progressives (and I died in the wool democrat lefty artist, make no mistake) that they are so protective against bigotry, unless of course, it is a group they deem unworthy? You clearly don't know the first fucking thing about military families, so when you say you are entitled to your values and beliefs I can only you mean you value shallow assessments and broad-sweeping stereotypes of specific groups you know little about.


This isn't even who you were talking to but... There's a huge difference between supporting a military family and supporting immigrants/LGBT families. War is a huge reason why our country is starving, uneducated, and broke. Not to mention everyone who is being killed. Meanwhile supporting LGBT/immigrant families is like supporting.. Well... A family. They aren't hurting anyone. And this is from a fellow Christian. Last I checked Jesus didn't say shit about LGBT families. He did however promote peace. If you want to pick more things out of the bible how about the part that says if a woman is raped she has to marry her rapist and the rapist pays gold to her father. English Standard Version ? Deuteronomy 22:29 ?

"then the man who lay with her shall give to the father of the young woman fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife, because he has violated her. He may not divorce her all his days."
Anonymous
Post 04/28/2016 09:25     Subject: Pros and Cons working for an active duty Military Family?

Is mom a doctor, by any chance? If so, I can give you a lot more info.
Anonymous
Post 04/28/2016 09:24     Subject: Pros and Cons working for an active duty Military Family?

I would definitely ask about the schedule now, and while mom is deployed. Be sure to ask them if they are expecting more flexibility or more hours while mom is gone, so that you can decide if this is something you want to take on.
Anonymous
Post 04/28/2016 07:29     Subject: Pros and Cons working for an active duty Military Family?

Anonymous wrote:I couldn't work for a military family unless they are like the PP described. Even that, I'm not sure. I'm from a very peaceful country (I'm not American) that doesn't go to war so for me it would be hard to support that kind of family. Also, I feel like there would be a lot of job creep and extra hours or weekends with a military/single parent family. Check if they have local back up of family in the area. If not, it will be you probably pivking up the slack.

No offence intended to military families, I am a visitor in your country but I am entitled to my own beliefs and values.


I am always amazed to see statements like this on DCUM going unchallenged for the bigotry it is. Would a statement like this ever fly about an LGBT family, or an immigrant family? Try it: I am from a country that doesnt share LGBT values, so it would be hard for me to support that kind of family.

Sounds gross, right? But so many on here have no issues at all making the same kind of sweeping generalizations about military families that would not be tolerated about any other social/cultural/religious group. What is it about some progressives (and I died in the wool democrat lefty artist, make no mistake) that they are so protective against bigotry, unless of course, it is a group they deem unworthy? You clearly don't know the first fucking thing about military families, so when you say you are entitled to your values and beliefs I can only you mean you value shallow assessments and broad-sweeping stereotypes of specific groups you know little about.
Anonymous
Post 04/28/2016 06:28     Subject: Pros and Cons working for an active duty Military Family?

Anonymous wrote:I couldn't work for a military family unless they are like the PP described. Even that, I'm not sure. I'm from a very peaceful country (I'm not American) that doesn't go to war so for me it would be hard to support that kind of family. Also, I feel like there would be a lot of job creep and extra hours or weekends with a military/single parent family. Check if they have local back up of family in the area. If not, it will be you probably pivking up the slack.

No offence intended to military families, I am a visitor in your country but I am entitled to my own beliefs and values.


Just a quick note: saying "no offense intended" after saying something entirely offensive ("it would be hard to support *that kind* of family) is weak. Of course you are entitled to your beliefs and values, just dont kid yourself that they are ignorant and discriminatory.
Anonymous
Post 04/27/2016 22:57     Subject: Re:Pros and Cons working for an active duty Military Family?

Live-in nanny here. I actually like military families, and as I can relocate with them, I'm not worried about how long they are stationed in the one place.

Yes, deployments are hard on everyone in the family. If the deployed parent is in an area where they can access Skype regularly, having kids (especially toddlers and preschoolers) Skype with the parent should take priority over anything else int he schedule. Additionally, kids can interact with the deployed parent by doing a short video everyday to email, and then watch the parent's video when they get them.

There are a few issues that can make it easier or harder, depending on the family. Is mom a single parent? If she is, you will need back up from friends and family, because 14/7 with kids while the parent is deployed is incredibly exhausting, but it is rewarding. If dad will be there, you need to ask questions to clarify what the schedule will be. You also would need to ask if dad is also active duty, whether he might be gone overnight at any point during her deployment, and what the protocol will be if he gets hurt while working and can't make it home (very slim chance, but I ask about every scenario I can think of).

If mom's a single parent, you need to have temporary guardianship. You need to have the authority to talk to the school, doctor or anyone else about the child. If they are a couple, but dad is active duty, you need authorization with the school to deal with sick/injured child, and the doctor to start emergency treatment while dad is reached.
Anonymous
Post 04/27/2016 16:21     Subject: Re:Pros and Cons working for an active duty Military Family?

They will probably only be around for about three years before they move on to their next post.

Physical fitness will be important to them.

Chances are slim that they have have family nearby.

If mom is deploying soon, I would recommend you get a power of attorney so you can take the kids to the doctor if needed.
Anonymous
Post 04/27/2016 15:14     Subject: Pros and Cons working for an active duty Military Family?

I couldn't work for a military family unless they are like the PP described. Even that, I'm not sure. I'm from a very peaceful country (I'm not American) that doesn't go to war so for me it would be hard to support that kind of family. Also, I feel like there would be a lot of job creep and extra hours or weekends with a military/single parent family. Check if they have local back up of family in the area. If not, it will be you probably pivking up the slack.

No offence intended to military families, I am a visitor in your country but I am entitled to my own beliefs and values.
Anonymous
Post 04/27/2016 14:23     Subject: Pros and Cons working for an active duty Military Family?

We're a military family who have employed four different nannies over the last six years (there was a move in there). Our current nanny has been with us for almost 2 years, and my husband was deployed in the fall.

We are lefty liberals with artsy undergraduate degrees and professional graduate degrees, and we have a part time housekeeper and a cleaning service in addition to our full time nanny, so there was no job creep when DH was gone.

Anyway, go into the interview with any questions you have, but there are lots of different types of military families. The one thing to ask is how long they will be in the area, to make sure your idea of a "long term" job and theirs are similar.
Anonymous
Post 04/27/2016 13:13     Subject: Re:Pros and Cons working for an active duty Military Family?

I had a terrible experience. Kids were a year younger than what you described. It was probably a special circumstance.. The parents seemed fine when I first met them, by the end they had a nasty divorce as soon as the dad got home. The older child had a rough time adjusting to his dad who was like a stranger to him after a six month deployment, and the dad wasn't too thrilled that he preferred me. Mom was SAH and I was left to do a lot that was not on the contract, like household chores, and she knew she could get away with it since her husband was gone. Also, I am pretty liberal, and like a lot of people in the military, they were conservative (to the extreme, Donald trump/Ben Carson supporters). I am from a military family myself but just reserves, and we have learned communication is the key. Anyway... I would make sure they have good communication, and be prepared for some challenges transitioning at the beginning and end of the deployment. I work for a different family now, hopefully this one turns out to be as great as my current NF good luck! PS be sure to meet any family members that you may be around often, since they need extra help while the mother is away. I had to deal with a critical grandmother for a long time.
Anonymous
Post 04/27/2016 12:14     Subject: Pros and Cons working for an active duty Military Family?

1y/o and 3 y/o. Mom expecting to be deployed within next 90 days. Both seem lovely and down to earth, fair pay. Anyone else with experience in this situation?