If she's had a nanny who didn't speak English well and an older nanny who may have been forgetful, maybe she just got into the habit of saying things an excessive number of times? I would gently point out that I speak English as my first language, so I understand her the first time she says something, and I'm very organized, so I jot down notes for the schedule as soon as I know there's a change. You could also point to past positions in which you handled more kids, more responsibility or a more chaotic schedule to show that you don't need to be micromanaged.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My real answer is that I would quit. I could not deal with that.
But if you aren't ready to jumo ship yet, I would start tracking every conversation with her and proactively updating her in a form she can see.
E.g., she says, "Oh, please remember to wash Larla's soccer uniform. Also, can you please cook that cauliflower and make sure the kids make a card for teacher appreciation week?"
You: "Got it. I will wash Larla's uniform tomorrow morning in time for her practice tomorrow night. I cooked the cauliflower 3 days ago, but I will cook some asparagus tonight. The kids can do their teacher appreciation card on Thursday before ballet."
Then as soon as she leaves the room you update a file in your smartphone notes to reflect the new schedule:
Tuesday:
Breakfast: XYZ
Packed lunches:
NK1 needs to bring her trombone to school
NK2 needs permission slip signed (in green folder on the desk)
Nanny wash Larla's soccer uniform
Afterschool snack:
NK2 piano practice
Practice sight words
NK1 soccer practice
Dinner:
Etc. etc. etc.
Basically write down EVERYTHING you do/plan to do every single day and proactively send an email/text daily (or multiple times per day) with an uodated schedule for the coming week.
Frankly, it sounds to me like she has ADD and probably some anxiety and those are not things that you can fix.
Yes believe me I've looked into some other jobs and looked at things available at the agency she hired me through. Of course like always I love these kids and she is already super stressed with her husband living in another state, I'm afraid it'll send her over the deep end if I give notice. She can be very diplomatic. I had to send her an email about her mother helicoptering (lol made up word) me when visits and she was very nice and firm in having my back and saying she knows how her mom is. She even told me to always come to her if I ever feel like I'm wanting to quit so we can work things out. But I'm not sure how receptive she'll be when it's her I need to talk to her about.
But yes I'm definitely going to start keeping track of these repetitive convos and excessive calls/texts. When they first moved here they weren't in a home yet and when she moved she actively looked for something to rent that would better my commute and hers so I appreciate that.
I know that their last nanny in their previous state was not American and English wasn't her first language, the nanny before her was and older lady. So I wonder if this is why she rides me so hard. But ADD or OCD definitely make sense. There's something mental going on. And on top of all of this she is always eerily calm even when frantic. It's hard to explain.
Anonymous wrote:My real answer is that I would quit. I could not deal with that.
But if you aren't ready to jumo ship yet, I would start tracking every conversation with her and proactively updating her in a form she can see.
E.g., she says, "Oh, please remember to wash Larla's soccer uniform. Also, can you please cook that cauliflower and make sure the kids make a card for teacher appreciation week?"
You: "Got it. I will wash Larla's uniform tomorrow morning in time for her practice tomorrow night. I cooked the cauliflower 3 days ago, but I will cook some asparagus tonight. The kids can do their teacher appreciation card on Thursday before ballet."
Then as soon as she leaves the room you update a file in your smartphone notes to reflect the new schedule:
Tuesday:
Breakfast: XYZ
Packed lunches:
NK1 needs to bring her trombone to school
NK2 needs permission slip signed (in green folder on the desk)
Nanny wash Larla's soccer uniform
Afterschool snack:
NK2 piano practice
Practice sight words
NK1 soccer practice
Dinner:
Etc. etc. etc.
Basically write down EVERYTHING you do/plan to do every single day and proactively send an email/text daily (or multiple times per day) with an uodated schedule for the coming week.
Frankly, it sounds to me like she has ADD and probably some anxiety and those are not things that you can fix.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Do you cook from scratch? When my boss wanted to nix all starches and severely limit fruits and veggies, I made a spreadsheet with the vitamins and minerals per quantity of each food. He let me go back to providing 4 fruits per day, and he allowed me to add quinoa and amaranth, as long as I was willing to grind and cook them myself. I would have preferred to give the kids more than 2 Tbs of dairy per day. I got the kids to eat kale and other dark green veggies, but the quantity that they would have had to eat to equal the daily required calcium simply wasn't going to happen.
About 70 percent of what I feed them is from scratch, meal wise. Snacks only when it's something like banana bites dipped in yogurt then frozen. Overall they eat very healthy. They also seem to be in a better mood and less fatigued when I'm giving them a grain and couple of items with carbs during the day. But they eat a lot of fruit. Since I've been with them they also eat a lot of spinach because I don't do dairy. But she was asking me to cut down their dairy in take to about 3 oz and only at dinner! Smh I made sure I made lots of smoothies and extra spinach when she was going through that phase. The. She got worried I was giving them too much sugar from all of the fruit.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Overall, I have no idea what to suggest.
Perhaps document when you tell her things, and then when she starts telling you the same thing again later, point out that you already heard it three times in the last 2 days? Of course it needs to be done politely, but she may not notice that it's an issue.
As to things coming home from school, BTDT. I worked for a family in which MB went to work out-of-state for a month. She's the one who handled all the bills and things, and she wanted to see all quizzes, tests, projects and other important(ish) school things when she got home, so we set up a shoe box, one side for bills and the like, the other for kids' school stuff, sorted by kid. Every single time she got home, she would come running to me because she couldn't find one or the other, because she had only looked at one side of the box. So, I don't know what to recommend for that, but I certainly empathize.
With the kids' eating, I would say something. I was fine when a former DB said no refined starches or sugars, but I put my foot down when he said that the kids would only eat meat and veggies, with the occasional fruit or dairy. Healthy eating varies from family to family, but if the kids can't get the nutrients they need, it's up to the nanny to ask if the parent discussed the diet change with the pediatrician.
Thank you pp! I never thought it documenting our conversations. I will definitely try this. I already take my phone out immediately once she vegans talking of play dates or her going out of town etc just so that she can see I'm noting it and putting it on my calendar right in her face. However it doesn't stop her from telling me again that evening and of course I get out the door late every night after our talks.
She mentioned wanting me to download the cozi app for us to sync our calendars etc. I downloaded it but needed her password etc to get started. I reached out to her for the info and now she hasn't mentioned it since.
I think I will actually log our convos in the communication binder so that SHE can see herself how much she repeats and forgets things
As far as their diets, yes this bothers me more than anything. Good carbs are brain food and I try to tell her they some carbs especially with them both doing soccer.
Anonymous wrote:Overall, I have no idea what to suggest.
Perhaps document when you tell her things, and then when she starts telling you the same thing again later, point out that you already heard it three times in the last 2 days? Of course it needs to be done politely, but she may not notice that it's an issue.
As to things coming home from school, BTDT. I worked for a family in which MB went to work out-of-state for a month. She's the one who handled all the bills and things, and she wanted to see all quizzes, tests, projects and other important(ish) school things when she got home, so we set up a shoe box, one side for bills and the like, the other for kids' school stuff, sorted by kid. Every single time she got home, she would come running to me because she couldn't find one or the other, because she had only looked at one side of the box. So, I don't know what to recommend for that, but I certainly empathize.
With the kids' eating, I would say something. I was fine when a former DB said no refined starches or sugars, but I put my foot down when he said that the kids would only eat meat and veggies, with the occasional fruit or dairy. Healthy eating varies from family to family, but if the kids can't get the nutrients they need, it's up to the nanny to ask if the parent discussed the diet change with the pediatrician.
Anonymous wrote:She really needs a good mental health therapist, at least for the sake of her children. Poor things.