Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know what? Kids don't have to destroy cars. They don't have to create filth or damage things.

You teach kids how to behave, you manage what they have access to in a vehicle and you oversee them appropriately.

This is what a nanny should be doing anyway right? So if a nanny is doing her job well then her vehicle will be treated with respect. Mine is.

Mileage reimbursement covers plenty, car detailing is great also, as are protective covers, etc...

But teaching the kids how to behave is the best protection.

Bullshit

Charming. You work with kids?

Re the pp and the list of things can do in a car, I have seat liners for the (very) rare blowout and the more frequent potty training accident. I have one child, who is now 4 1/2, who gets extremely carsick. She has a bucket in the car. She alerts well, uses the bucket, etc... About three times when she was smaller she threw up on herself. I had to wash clothes and carseat covers. It had zero impact on my vehicle. I have seat back protectors for the kicking, and I also have taught them not to kick. They get water and dry snacks to eat in the car. I need to vacuum periodically to get goldfish/pretzels/crackers out of the car.

One child pulled out the safety bar inside my 9 year old car. That is the only actual damage my car has sustained.

Kids are dirty but they do not have to be nightmarishly destructive. Intelligent management of them helps mitigate all of this. With older kids they can also learn to clean the car. Using a vaccuum, some Resolve/window cleaner, etc... is a great task for them.

Anonymous wrote:You know what? Kids don't have to destroy cars. They don't have to create filth or damage things.

You teach kids how to behave, you manage what they have access to in a vehicle and you oversee them appropriately.

This is what a nanny should be doing anyway right? So if a nanny is doing her job well then her vehicle will be treated with respect. Mine is.

Mileage reimbursement covers plenty, car detailing is great also, as are protective covers, etc...

But teaching the kids how to behave is the best protection.

Bullshit

Anonymous wrote:You know what? Kids don't have to destroy cars. They don't have to create filth or damage things.

You teach kids how to behave, you manage what they have access to in a vehicle and you oversee them appropriately.

This is what a nanny should be doing anyway right? So if a nanny is doing her job well then her vehicle will be treated with respect. Mine is.

Mileage reimbursement covers plenty, car detailing is great also, as are protective covers, etc...

But teaching the kids how to behave is the best protection.

That's great for you. I've never been able to teach an infant or toddler not to throw up when they are feeling sick. Nor have I been able to teach an infant or toddler not to have a blowout that drips down their legs when I take them out of the carseat. When the parents require that the child eat snack in the car on the way to after school activities and dictate what the snack is, sometimes there are crumbs or other small pieces of food dropped. When kids have a temper tantrum or meltdown and are tall enough for their feet to touch the seat ahead of them, they kick the seats. When kids are frustrated with the day at school, sometimes they yank the seatbelt while trying to buckle up. I've had all of those issues happen, as well as a flyball from the neighbor's yard (charges were playing too, not sure who hit that particular ball) hitting the back window.

This is precisely why I only use an employer-provided vehicle. They can decide whether to fix the vehicle and how to clean it.

You know what? Kids don't have to destroy cars. They don't have to create filth or damage things.

You teach kids how to behave, you manage what they have access to in a vehicle and you oversee them appropriately.

This is what a nanny should be doing anyway right? So if a nanny is doing her job well then her vehicle will be treated with respect. Mine is.

Mileage reimbursement covers plenty, car detailing is great also, as are protective covers, etc...

But teaching the kids how to behave is the best protection.

Anonymous wrote:IRS reimbursement is enough.

Not when your interior has been permanently damaged.
Absolutely not.
Nannies who allow this are crazy.
Cars aren't cheap, especially for a nanny.

IRS reimbursement is enough.

Of course the parents should provide carseats. That wasn't the OP's question. And of course parents should reimburse for repairs or damage caused by the kids.

But normal wear and tear, upkeep of the vehicle, fuel costs, etc... are exactly what the IRS reimbursement rates are designed to cover. That is why it isn't simply reimbursement for gas. The rates build in all the additional costs of maintaining a vehicle.

If you want more then negotiate that with your employers, or don't take a job that requires you to use your own vehicle. But OP is not required to do more if already providing mileage reimbursement.

OP - one thing you can do that I think all decent employers should do, is pay for a thorough detailing of the car at least once a year. Twice if the kids are young and messy.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The IRS reimbursement rates are designed to cover wear and tear on the vehicle and fuel costs. You do not need to compensate beyond that (unless you wish to as some additional perk).

No, you are 100% wrong. These IRS rates do not cover the costs of damage kids do, not to mention the carseats.

Normal wear and tear doesn't include kids yanking seatbelts, kicking seats, grinding things into the carpets, scratching paint, hitting windows with toys or other hard objects, fly balls that break windows or any other "accidents" that happen when one is around and transporting children. Carseats should be provided by the parent or the nanny should be able to buy the cheapest thing on the market.

Anonymous wrote:The IRS reimbursement rates are designed to cover wear and tear on the vehicle and fuel costs. You do not need to compensate beyond that (unless you wish to as some additional perk).

No, you are 100% wrong. These IRS rates do not cover the costs of damage kids do, not to mention the carseats.

I require an employer-provided vehicle for city driving, due to the higher wear and tear and lower gas mileage. The IRS rate is based on averages, so when I was driving in rural areas with little stop and go traffic and lots of highway miles, it was great.

The IRS reimbursement rates are designed to cover wear and tear on the vehicle and fuel costs. You do not need to compensate beyond that (unless you wish to as some additional perk).

Her insurance definitely goes up. The standard mileage reimbursement does not address the extreme wear and tear from kids and carseats. That would be extra.

You need to ask your nanny to check with her insurance company abt her insurance package. What if something happened will her insurance cover the kids?

are you asking nanny to use her car on the job, or is she lending you her car for a weekend?

If you're asking nanny to use her car on the job, mileage reimbursement is plenty. If you want to go above and beyond, buy protectors for the back of the front seats so kicking feet don't get dirt on the car, and pay for an occasional car wash.

What compensation should we offer? We are already planning on mileage reimbursement.