Anonymous
09/10/2015 09:04
Subject: Re:Non Disclosure.....what would you do?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why you wouldn't simply sign the agreement. I work for high profile families and nondisclosure statements are always presented at the start of employment but I would have no issue with signing one after the fact.
Why don't you want to sign it, OP?
Shouldn't NF pay the nanny for the two week notice period they were given?
OP wrote that she was owed no additional money.
Ok, then no one owes anyone anything.
No, of course, OP cannot be compelled to sign - but why wouldn't she? It is easy to sign your name and clearly important to her former employers. There is no need to cause any additional animosity.
Did you overlook the fact that the nanny was fired on the spot when she gave her two weeks notice... with a generous extension to THREE weeks, if needed??
So? That makes her right to be spiteful and not sign a simple piece of paper that she already agrees with? Come on - this nanny should have spelled out her severance more clearly in her contract since she was essentially fired.
There is no point in being spiteful - it never ends well.
When was the last time you were that dumb?
Please stop embarrassing yourself, PP. We simply disagree. Let it go.
Anonymous
09/10/2015 08:36
Subject: Re:Non Disclosure.....what would you do?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why you wouldn't simply sign the agreement. I work for high profile families and nondisclosure statements are always presented at the start of employment but I would have no issue with signing one after the fact.
Why don't you want to sign it, OP?
Shouldn't NF pay the nanny for the two week notice period they were given?
OP wrote that she was owed no additional money.
Ok, then no one owes anyone anything.
No, of course, OP cannot be compelled to sign - but why wouldn't she? It is easy to sign your name and clearly important to her former employers. There is no need to cause any additional animosity.
Did you overlook the fact that the nanny was fired on the spot when she gave her two weeks notice... with a generous extension to THREE weeks, if needed??
So? That makes her right to be spiteful and not sign a simple piece of paper that she already agrees with? Come on - this nanny should have spelled out her severance more clearly in her contract since she was essentially fired.
There is no point in being spiteful - it never ends well.
When was the last time you were that dumb?
Anonymous
09/10/2015 08:34
Subject: Re:Non Disclosure.....what would you do?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why you wouldn't simply sign the agreement. I work for high profile families and nondisclosure statements are always presented at the start of employment but I would have no issue with signing one after the fact.
Why don't you want to sign it, OP?
Shouldn't NF pay the nanny for the two week notice period they were given?
OP wrote that she was owed no additional money.
Ok, then no one owes anyone anything.
No, of course, OP cannot be compelled to sign - but why wouldn't she? It is easy to sign your name and clearly important to her former employers. There is no need to cause any additional animosity.
Did you overlook the fact that the nanny was fired on the spot when she gave her two weeks notice... with a generous extension to THREE weeks, if needed??
So? That makes her right to be spiteful and not sign a simple piece of paper that she already agrees with? Come on - this nanny should have spelled out her severance more clearly in her contract since she was essentially fired.
There is no point in being spiteful - it never ends well.
Anonymous
09/10/2015 08:28
Subject: Non Disclosure.....what would you do?
I would not do it, unless they offered the rightful two week severance check. AND it cleared FIRST.
Let's NOT be stupid here.
Let's NOT be stupid here.
Anonymous
09/10/2015 08:26
Subject: Re:Non Disclosure.....what would you do?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why you wouldn't simply sign the agreement. I work for high profile families and nondisclosure statements are always presented at the start of employment but I would have no issue with signing one after the fact.
Why don't you want to sign it, OP?
Shouldn't NF pay the nanny for the two week notice period they were given?
OP wrote that she was owed no additional money.
Ok, then no one owes anyone anything.
No, of course, OP cannot be compelled to sign - but why wouldn't she? It is easy to sign your name and clearly important to her former employers. There is no need to cause any additional animosity.
Did you overlook the fact that the nanny was fired on the spot when she gave her two weeks notice... with a generous extension to THREE weeks, if needed??
Anonymous
09/10/2015 07:51
Subject: Re:Non Disclosure.....what would you do?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why you wouldn't simply sign the agreement. I work for high profile families and nondisclosure statements are always presented at the start of employment but I would have no issue with signing one after the fact.
Why don't you want to sign it, OP?
Shouldn't NF pay the nanny for the two week notice period they were given?
OP wrote that she was owed no additional money.
Ok, then no one owes anyone anything.
No, of course, OP cannot be compelled to sign - but why wouldn't she? It is easy to sign your name and clearly important to her former employers. There is no need to cause any additional animosity.
Anonymous
09/10/2015 07:43
Subject: Re:Non Disclosure.....what would you do?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why you wouldn't simply sign the agreement. I work for high profile families and nondisclosure statements are always presented at the start of employment but I would have no issue with signing one after the fact.
Why don't you want to sign it, OP?
Shouldn't NF pay the nanny for the two week notice period they were given?
OP wrote that she was owed no additional money.
Ok, then no one owes anyone anything.
Anonymous
09/10/2015 07:37
Subject: Re:Non Disclosure.....what would you do?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why you wouldn't simply sign the agreement. I work for high profile families and nondisclosure statements are always presented at the start of employment but I would have no issue with signing one after the fact.
Why don't you want to sign it, OP?
Shouldn't NF pay the nanny for the two week notice period they were given?
OP wrote that she was owed no additional money.
Anonymous
09/10/2015 07:27
Subject: Re:Non Disclosure.....what would you do?
Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why you wouldn't simply sign the agreement. I work for high profile families and nondisclosure statements are always presented at the start of employment but I would have no issue with signing one after the fact.
Why don't you want to sign it, OP?
Shouldn't NF pay the nanny for the two week notice period they were given?
Anonymous
09/10/2015 07:24
Subject: Non Disclosure.....what would you do?
Anonymous wrote:No. What's the worst she could do to you? Without your last paycheck? Lie about your quality of work? Are they lawyers?
Let them give you 2 weeks severance for your unexpected lost wages.
This is exactly why most nannies can't AFFORD to give the lengthy notice
...that most NFs would like.
Solutions??
Anonymous
09/10/2015 07:22
Subject: Non Disclosure.....what would you do?
No. What's the worst she could do to you? Without your last paycheck? Lie about your quality of work? Are they lawyers?
Let them give you 2 weeks severance for your unexpected lost wages.
This is exactly why most nannies can't AFFORD to give the lengthy notice
Let them give you 2 weeks severance for your unexpected lost wages.
This is exactly why most nannies can't AFFORD to give the lengthy notice
Anonymous
09/10/2015 06:59
Subject: Re:Non Disclosure.....what would you do?
I don't understand why you wouldn't simply sign the agreement. I work for high profile families and nondisclosure statements are always presented at the start of employment but I would have no issue with signing one after the fact.
Why don't you want to sign it, OP?
Why don't you want to sign it, OP?
Anonymous
09/10/2015 01:50
Subject: Non Disclosure.....what would you do?
How dare she?? After firing you on the spot, now she wants you to sign some silly agreement...??
I would be completely done with her. You already have a new position lined up so you obviously do not need her as a reference at this point.
Tell her you have moved on and so should she.
You two are a done deal by now. Keep your response short and sweet and wish her luck in her new nanny search.
P.S. You are right, what the hell is she going to do regarding not speaking of you?? This makes zero sense.
Also, the agreement that you mentioned should have been offered prior to accepting this job, not afterward.
I would be completely done with her. You already have a new position lined up so you obviously do not need her as a reference at this point.
Tell her you have moved on and so should she.
You two are a done deal by now. Keep your response short and sweet and wish her luck in her new nanny search.
P.S. You are right, what the hell is she going to do regarding not speaking of you?? This makes zero sense.
Also, the agreement that you mentioned should have been offered prior to accepting this job, not afterward.
Anonymous
09/10/2015 01:25
Subject: Non Disclosure.....what would you do?
Can you call the mother and speak with her? If it were me, I'd probably say something along the lines of...
Hi Emily, I wanted to speak directly to you about this non-disclosure statements. Typically these are presented at the beginning of the job, along with the contract, to protect personal family information such as financial, legal, or otherwise private information. I would never disclose anything I learned about your family, either when I worked for you or now, can you tell me more specifically what your concerns are?
Maybe her friends have told her they hear nannies bad mouthing employers and she's paranoid or hyper vigilant. Maybe she has some distant connection to this family and is concerned about information trickling through. I think you need to speak with her on the phone in order to decide whether this is something you're comfortable with.
Hi Emily, I wanted to speak directly to you about this non-disclosure statements. Typically these are presented at the beginning of the job, along with the contract, to protect personal family information such as financial, legal, or otherwise private information. I would never disclose anything I learned about your family, either when I worked for you or now, can you tell me more specifically what your concerns are?
Maybe her friends have told her they hear nannies bad mouthing employers and she's paranoid or hyper vigilant. Maybe she has some distant connection to this family and is concerned about information trickling through. I think you need to speak with her on the phone in order to decide whether this is something you're comfortable with.
Anonymous
09/10/2015 01:13
Subject: Non Disclosure.....what would you do?
Long story short...
I worked for a family for a few mo with a high functioning child. Had a decent relationship with parents. I got an unexpected job offer that was a big step up in terms of pay/benefits/dependability etc. I decide to take the job, I gave my two weeks(with the option of 4 if needed. MB in a big tantrum let me go immediately. Then I hear from them a few hours later saying they want me to sign a non disclosure agreement to "protect" their child. I am a good nanny, but also I like to think I am a decent person. I would never speak badly of a child let alone medical issues. I am all paid up salary wise, and really I have no incentive to sign. I kind of ignored the request but now I have received another email saying to please sign, and that they will change the agreement to include that they will not talk about me. I guess I am curious on what you would do? I mean what are they going to say about me? I gave appropriate notice,I was polite and considerate, I even offered to help them find someone else.
I worked for a family for a few mo with a high functioning child. Had a decent relationship with parents. I got an unexpected job offer that was a big step up in terms of pay/benefits/dependability etc. I decide to take the job, I gave my two weeks(with the option of 4 if needed. MB in a big tantrum let me go immediately. Then I hear from them a few hours later saying they want me to sign a non disclosure agreement to "protect" their child. I am a good nanny, but also I like to think I am a decent person. I would never speak badly of a child let alone medical issues. I am all paid up salary wise, and really I have no incentive to sign. I kind of ignored the request but now I have received another email saying to please sign, and that they will change the agreement to include that they will not talk about me. I guess I am curious on what you would do? I mean what are they going to say about me? I gave appropriate notice,I was polite and considerate, I even offered to help them find someone else.